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Robb
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Not to mention we also have the fight between Royal Wooton Bassett and Marlborough scrapping over who goes to Kent in R1SC and who goes to Cornwall in R1SW.
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cobbler
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Yes I think that is quite likely, along with Stoke going North and maybe one other "natural" Midlands sides possibly going North. No doubt the RFU computer, along with Google Maps, is working out the best options for all 6 level 5 leagues as we we discuss it.
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Archangel
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So as Syston is in Leicestershire makes (RFU) sense they will go the L1SE instead of Nuns! Though Banbury & Kenilworth remain outside bets. North Walsham now in that league does change the shape and mileage somewhat
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Too old but young enough to learn
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tigerburnie
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The centre of England and indeed the planet is in Leicestershire, thought everyone knew that.....................
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Robb
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I just hope they get the new leagues out sooner rather than later. Even if its just to announce which teams are where (but the fixtures will be a bonus!)
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islander
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I'm sure the make-up of the leagues for 24/25 will be sorted soon, at least (compared with this time yesterday) it's known who finished in what position. Getting the structure sorted will always be challenging, the glory of sport is not knowing what'll happen in advance, and by the same token it's not scripted which clubs from which part of an area will go up or down once the music's stopped, hence the need to balance it all out at the end of the season: a necessary but sometimes complex process...
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Newt
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Same here.
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NEWT is an acronym, it stands for North East Worcestershire Town. My views, not necessarily my Club's
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cobbler
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I reckon a few of us are viewing or commenting for the first time in a while!
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Not Will Webb Ellis
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Well!
I’ve taken a look at this forum for the first time in a while. Seeing the speculation and the educated guesses I can officially say the system in my opinion is a mess and now my brain hurts.
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Greg
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Thank you Robb for the prompt response.
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Robb
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I think according to the RFU's table, it looks like Norwich are out of contention for the "lucky loser" spot. Sorry.
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Greg
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Help please.
Does anybody know how many teams will be relegated from Level 6 (Regional Anglia 2)? Living in Norwich, my two local clubs - North Walsham and Norwich - are both facing relegation from their respective leagues. North Walsham will certainly be relegated but Norwich might survive if they can win on Saturday - but only if one team is relegated. It's not been a great year over here - Norfolk County Cricket Club were also relegated at the end of their season. Horatio Nelson - your county needs you!
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Robb
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In theory, everything should work out fine like that. But I do suspect there may be issues in Central/SW with Woottoon Bassett returning because in Central it should be Havant up/Wimbledon down and Horsham/Bournemouth down and Jersey/Alleynians or Battersea up. I guess RWB'll just have to fight with Marlborough to decide who goes to Kent and who has to go to Cornwall at the longest trip. (Looking at Google Maps, I think RWB will go SW and Marlborough stay in Central). But, as you say. Its not up to our logic, its the powers that be at Twickers who decide the fate and travel of so many clubs.
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islander
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Agree with those who point out that a 'whole country' solution is needed at each level, with the total number of clubs divided equally into 3 leagues (at L4), 6 (L5) etc. And some form of rebalancing (via level transfers) will always be something liable to be necessary with a pyramid system, however broad or narrow it is...
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Dagfish
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My understanding was that it is not a case of promotion / relegation between the specific leagues, but completely re-drawing the leagues every year once the 72 teams at Regional 1 level are known.
In practice, the leagues may look similar from one season to the next, but in theory they could come up with a completely different geographical split each year. So in reality, looking at how any specific league may look next season is not really a valid proposition until after the end of the season.
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cobbler
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Well there were always instances in the past of teams being moved away from what might be considered their "natural" league (used to be called level transfers). But with this setup up: 3 L4 leagues - none specifically for midlands 6 level 5 leagues - only one specifically for midlands (i.e. labelled as such) 12 level 6 leagues - 3 specifically for midlands The chances seems to be much higher.
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Golden Jackal
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So do we think the RFU responding to clubs at Lower Levels by flattening the pyramid at the top (i.e 3 Leagues at L4, 8 at L5 etc) has helped our clubs??? To me it seems far more complicated now and for those clubs that "border" other regions it must be very disconcerting... What was wrong with London 1, Nat 2 South, Nat 1 for example...you knew where you stood and the likely distances involved!
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Kimbo
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Kimbo
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Nuneaton is the most central of Midlands rugby clubs (if you accept the newer thinking of Lindley Hall Farm being the centre of England). (And if you don't, and still consider my Gt Grandfather's birthplace, Meriden to be the centre, it's north of that).
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Mark W-J
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That's fine in isolation - but if there are lots of Midlands teams at L5 and a big hole across West Sussex, Hampshire and Dorset (as alluded to above) then the boundaries could all be shifted anti-clockwise by 30 degrees to redraw the line of best fit.
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