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Regional 1 South East which worked very well this season, should have been be relatively simple: Colchester go up to L4 to replace North Walsham coming down, Westcliff & Rochford Hundred go down to L6 with Southend Saxons coming up along with Amersham & Chiltern (very close to Tring etc) ... but that was before they go and lose to Belzise Park!

Therefore before it is no doubt changed by our TW masters should look like:

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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

The RFU do retain the right to completely redraw the leagues each year.

More like the RFU retain the right to do exactly what they like when they like and bu**er everyone else! 
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Originally posted by Glasshouse Glasshouse wrote:

Could see Stoke move North and Banbury move back to South East to make space for promoted sides and relegated Midlands teams from Level 4?
Next team closest to SE is probably Kenilworth as opposed to Nuneaton?
So potentially
Long Eaton or Stoke to North
Banbury to South East
Broadstreet & Old Hales relegated
Oxford promoted (but to Level 4 East?)

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Nuneaton (promoted)
Silhillians (promoted)
Dudley Ks (relegated)
Newport (relegated)
Bromsgrove
Bridgnorth
Derby
Burton
Stourbridge 
Syston
Kenilworth 
Long Eaton or Stoke (or Banbury!)



So many possibilities! And as pointed out by Robb, there are similar issues in other areas. 
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Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Its a very good point because I forsee similar issues in the South because in South Central Horsham and Bournemouth going down and Havant going up, coming into the league it looks like Jersey, Amersham/Chiltern and Alleynians or Battersea with Wimbledon coming down. Even more complicated is that Royal Wootton Bassett who were in the league last year are also coming up from 2 Severn 

Given South East seems to be turning into Eastern Counties/South-Midlands (since it seems the RFU don't like paying Dartford Tolls), I guess you may find some of the southern Midlands teams ending up in South East. (Nuneaton being the obvious candidate?) 
Ah yes I had not seen that SE contains clubs wholly North of the Thames, but yes that league is skewing North Eastwards! North Walsham probably coming down into that league from above. Maybe Syston to shuffle over? We are playing them on Saturday, I might mention that possibility to a few of their guys !! 
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Could see Stoke move North and Banbury move back to South East to make space for promoted sides and relegated Midlands teams from Level 4?
Next team closest to SE is probably Kenilworth as opposed to Nuneaton?
So potentially
Long Eaton or Stoke to North
Banbury to South East
Broadstreet & Old Hales relegated
Oxford promoted (but to Level 4 East?)

Regional 1 Midlands
Nuneaton (promoted)
Silhillians (promoted)
Dudley Ks (relegated)
Newport (relegated)
Bromsgrove
Bridgnorth
Derby
Burton
Stourbridge 
Syston
Kenilworth 
Long Eaton or Stoke (or Banbury!)
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

The RFU do retain the right to completely redraw the leagues each year.
Yes I'm aware of that. And rename them accordingly too if necessary!

P.S. I took the time to check my spelling and typos but forgot the curse of the team from North Lincs and should have said "infrequently" Tongue
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The RFU do retain the right to completely redraw the leagues each year.
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Its a very good point because I forsee similar issues in the South because in South Central Horsham and Bournemouth going down and Havant going up, coming into the league it looks like Jersey, Amersham/Chiltern and Alleynians or Battersea with Wimbledon coming down. Even more complicated is that Royal Wootton Bassett who were in the league last year are also coming up from 2 Severn 

Given South East seems to be turning into Eastern Counties/South-Midlands (since it seems the RFU don't like paying Dartford Tolls), I guess you may find some of the southern Midlands teams ending up in South East. (Nuneaton being the obvious candidate?) 


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This is a sphazelnutly used section of the forum, but I thought I would try to trigger some interest!

 

The Regional One Midlands league already has a “centre of gravity” well towards the South West of the area covered by the traditional Midlands Constituent Bodies. Northern teams SKiwifruithorpe and Leek are playing in the Northern leagues and Eastern teams Bedford Ath, Oundle and ONs are playing in the South East league. Two teams from Oxfordshire are currently in the league instead.

With one team promoted and two relegated that is three teams out. Three level 6 leagues feed the league and it looks like Long Eaton (Derbyshire) although Lichfield could pip them, Silhillians (Warwickshire) and Nuneaton (Warwickshire) although in theory Lutterworth or Market Harborough could pip them, will come up. The level 4 Midlands teams all play in N2W and, guess what, the bottom three places are currently filled by Midlands teams (Dudley KW, Newport and Bournville). Bourneville could still escape, but if they do not that is 6 teams trying to go into the Midlands level 5 league. With most of the incoming sides being close to the Birmingham area (where that “centre of gravity” roughly sits, I can see 2 or 3 of the more Northerly teams heading for the Northern leagues (Stoke, Derby and Long Eaton). That wouldn’t be so bad if the 2 Northern level 5 leagues were split North / South, but the East / West split of those leagues (chosen presumably due to the M1/A1 and M6 main roads in the region) means there would be some very long journeys involved.
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