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God Bless The Apple
Academy player Joined: 18 Jun 2018 Location: South West Status: Offline Points: 11 |
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Sorry, but I don't buy the stay closed until "proper" rugby can return theory.... community rugby clubs are on the brink, struggling and in desperate need of revenue streams if they are to survive and we are to enjoy supporting them once again.
Rugby's very DNA is social off the pitch, contact on it - the two things this whole sorry situation has ripped from us. We have to look for ways we can get some "rugby-related" activity back again in order to reignite clubs that have been mothballed. Waiting until "proper" rugby can return (and good luck with that looooooooooooooong wait) will kill off many clubs. Data insights also show that around 50% of people (I believe) are mindful about returning to roles they once had within sport, be that player, club volunteer, coach/ref, etc. The longer we have nothing, the greater we risk losing more people from the game. I love "proper" rugby just as much as the next person, but personally I'd rather have something than nothing. As for the pro-game, the Premiership will dictate that I'm sure - the fact that WR have offered up the Law variations as optional and temporary at least gives autonomy to the Unions. |
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Halliford
World Cup Winner Joined: 17 Feb 2010 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4228 |
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GBTA, I agree! Many of our players and supporters just want the Club open and running again. The players are happy to try variations if it gets us back to playing quicker. Also we need to be playing in good weather so that we can have spectators drinking outside where it is easier to social distance.
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Raider999
World Cup Winner Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Location: Crawley Status: Offline Points: 4468 |
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Until things change Bars are not allowed to open and crowds are not allowed at sports events, they have to be behind closed doors. Some people seem to either forget or ignore these facts. |
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God Bless The Apple
Academy player Joined: 18 Jun 2018 Location: South West Status: Offline Points: 11 |
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The Prem may well go behind closed doors, or even with much-reduced crowd attendance in order to comply with social distancing and keep spectators safe... the pro games has the funds to be able to support this, and with so much £££ tied up with broadcasting, sponsorship, marketing, etc, they'll make it happen.
The Champ will probably want to wait until they can have spectators as for most clubs this is where their main income streams lie (apart from wealthy sponsors), so won't be holding my breath on that happening until much later in the year.
As for the Law variations as proposed by WR following collaboration with Unions, surely it makes sense to work towards getting rugby played, albeit with tweaks in order to keep players safe (as safe as they can be)? You may not be watching "proper" rugby as you used to remember it for a long time yet at the pro end, let alone the community game. And as for our community game below the Champ, I'd rather work with the stakeholders involved and try and get some rugby (whatever it looks like, let's be realistic) happening at clubs when we can (safely), be that Xpitch/Tag/touch/15s with variations... I don't care. |
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Halliford
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I’m looking some way ahead. Hotels are reopening in July so I’m hoping with fingers crossed that by September we will be allowed to have beer gardens open.
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Thatbloke
World Cup Winner Joined: 02 Sep 2017 Location: Newport Status: Offline Points: 1751 |
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I understand your thoughts guys but a lot depends on how you define "Community" Rugby?? Ampthill place themselves in this category as do many L3, L4, L5, L6, L7 clubs yet still pay their players at various tariffs. I cannot see any brand of rugby that will bring in sufficient income to meet their costs so clubs that are already claiming financial difficulties/hardships will be further penalised, possibly crippled for good, if they are forced to play a quasi form of rugby that brings in little or no income
Even at "Community" rugby level where players aren't paid there are still significant costs involved in opening up their facilities to play I wish I had the answer!!
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Halliford
World Cup Winner Joined: 17 Feb 2010 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4228 |
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My Club isn’t facing financial hardship, we are managing with the Furlough Scheme but we will need income from September as that winds down. We have ongoing enquiries from our regular non-rugby hirers, we are looking at enabling a beer garden and adding rugby to that almost becomes the icing on the cake. Yes, players will need to be paid but as I’ve said before, they would rather be playing under the revised laws than not playing. Supporters that I have spoken to feel the same way.
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Bigmal
World Cup Winner Joined: 17 Nov 2013 Location: BRISTOL Status: Offline Points: 1480 |
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At grounds with crowds of (say) 150 it should be possible to socially distance..
.not ideal but under the circumstances it may be necessary. And I appreciate the difficulties facing all clubs. |
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Raider999
World Cup Winner Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Location: Crawley Status: Offline Points: 4468 |
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Not talked to any players, but suspect as most will be paid when they play rather than a monthly wage, they will want to play a.s.a.p. As for supporters, the ones I have spoken to have no interest in watching hybrid type matches (I refuse to call it rugby as it will not be a game for all) - although they may possibly try it if they can get a beer😄 |
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PercyR
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But rugby is a hybrid and always had been. There have been hundreds of changes to the game and the laws, some planned, others evolving from technology and interpretation, generation on generation. When it started a try was worthless and only earned you a kick at goal; if you want 'proper' rugby then try turning back the clock - no lineout lifting, kicking directly into touch from anywhere on the field, marks anywhere, etc, etc, etc; or go further back and have 20 a side and dribbling instead of passing.
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Richmids
First XV regular Joined: 18 Jun 2019 Location: Atherstone Status: Offline Points: 109 |
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Just seen this for the Super Rugby and some new laws which include extra time if the game is level and you can replace a sent off player after 20 minutes |
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JonDee
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Some good ideas but totally disagree with the red card rule |
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Robb
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The unions are just making it up as they go along
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OldNick
World Cup Winner Joined: 20 May 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3415 |
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Of course they are. This is an unprecedented situation, there is no appropriate guidance, and it's impossible to make it up after it happens. Are you Australian btw? That chip on both shoulders seems amazingly well balanced. |
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