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islander ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 2010 Location: jersey Status: Offline Points: 7461 |
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Ahead of final round this w/e, thought it might be worth posting the relevant section of the regs regarding how the 8 qualifying teams are ranked and paired for KO stages. Note that it isn't certain that the QFs will be 1v8, 2v7 etc as pool opponents "may" be separated to avoid them meeting again. 4.7 The pool winners, runners-up and the two best third
placed teams will qualify for the knockout stage. The pool winners will be
decided by reference to the following criteria: 4.7.1 The three pool winners shall be ranked 1-3 in each
case based on the number of Competition Points earned in the pool stage. The
three runners-up and two best third placed teams shall be ranked 4-8 in each
case based on the number of Competition Points earned in the pool stage. 4.7.2 If two or more Clubs in the same pool end the pool
stage equal on Competition Points, then the order in which they have finished
will be determined by: i. the greater number of matches won by the Club and ii. if the number of matches won is equal, the Club with the
greater points difference (points scored for, less points scored against) and iii. if the points difference is equal, the Club with
greater number of tries scored and iv. if the total number of tries scored is equal, the Club
with the fewer number of red cards and v. if the number of red cards is the same, the Tournament
Organisers shall toss a coin. The knock-out Stage: 4.8 The knock-out stage shall be divided into four
quarter-final Matches, two semi-final Matches and a final Match. 4.9 The quarter-final Matches shall comprise of the top two
Clubs from each pool and the two highest ranking third place Clubs across all
the pools, in all cases as ranked in accordance with the principles set out in
4.7 above. The winning Club of each pool and the highest ranked second place
Club across all pools will play at home as follows: • Quarter-final 1: Seed 1 vs. Seed 8 • Quarter-final 2: Seed 2 vs. Seed 7 • Quarter-final 3: Seed 3 vs. Seed 6 • Quarter-final 4: Seed 4 vs. Seed 5 The Tournament Organiser may adjust the quarter-final draw
above in order to ensure teams from the same pool do not play each other. 4.10 The semi-final
Matches shall comprise the winners of each quarter-final who shall play each
other as follows and the first Club listed in each of the semi-final matches
shall be the Home Club: • Semi-final 1: Quarter-final 1 vs. Quarter-final 4 • Semi-final 2: Quarter-final 2 vs. Quarter-final 3 The Tournament Organiser may adjust the semi-final draw
above in order to ensure teams from the same pool do not play each other. 4.11 The winners of the two semi-final Matches will proceed
to the cup final. The cup final will be
played at a venue determined by the Tournament Organiser in accordance with
Regulation 5.4. 4.12 In the quarter-finals, semi-finals and the final, if after 40 minutes of play each way the scores are level, there shall be a five minute break (where the teams and players shall remain on the pitch) and then a period of extra time shall begin between the teams of 10 minutes each way, with a 1 minute interval. If the scores remain equal after this period of extra time then the winner will be the team which has scored the most tries in the game (including extra time). If the scores are level and the number of tries scored is equal, then there shall be a place kick competition (as set out in Appendix 1) to determine the winner. LINK to full 2019/20 regs Edited by islander - 09 Dec 2019 at 11:09 |
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corporalcarrot ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Location: St Brelade Status: Offline Points: 4724 |
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The official standings after Round 5 and the remaining fixtures: If I understand it correctly Falcons are the only team guaranteed to top their pool and seven of the quarter finalists are inked in with the final place going to either Donny or Amptill. Pool 3 seems to have 3 inked in Q/F places but anyone's guess who will top that one.
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Mark Smith ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() aka 'Ramshackle Smith' Joined: 17 Jul 2012 Location: Newcastle Upon Status: Offline Points: 2364 |
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Lots of references there about the tournament organisers 'may' move teams in the knockout rounds to avoid playing teams from the same group.
In your experience do they tend to actually do this? Or are they just leaving the possibility open?
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corporalcarrot ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Location: St Brelade Status: Offline Points: 4724 |
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Mark Smith ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() aka 'Ramshackle Smith' Joined: 17 Jul 2012 Location: Newcastle Upon Status: Offline Points: 2364 |
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Duly noted, thank you. We were in the office trying to work out permutations this morning, and basically gave up because there were so many variables.
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cheshire exile ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Status: Offline Points: 2474 |
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Not sure whether the same rules/ laws apply to this competition as to the defunct (and lamented) B&I Cup.
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castleparknight ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Jun 2012 Location: Doncaster Status: Offline Points: 3002 |
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Don't worry Mark you won't have to play us in the QFs now that we have got your measure
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Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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castleparknight ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Jun 2012 Location: Doncaster Status: Offline Points: 3002 |
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Or Jersey
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Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Mark Smith ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() aka 'Ramshackle Smith' Joined: 17 Jul 2012 Location: Newcastle Upon Status: Offline Points: 2364 |
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No worries castleparkknight. Thought your boys gave a good fist of it at the weekend.
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islander ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 2010 Location: jersey Status: Offline Points: 7461 |
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No, this comp has its own regs that have been tweaked slightly this year, see link in my post above... Last year the reg said that the organisers 'will' adjust the QF draw; this was what happened as the 2nd (Irish) & 7th (Blues) seeds had been in the same pool, as had the 3rd (Carnegie) & 6th (Cov). So Cov & Blues were swapped. This year, in a slight change, it says they 'may' adjust the QF. The 'may' wording for the semi-final is required as in theory you could have 3 of the 4 SF teams originating from the same pool, making it impossible for them to be kept apart. The lesson is the same as before - once the results are finalised on Saturday, top-4-ranked clubs can start to plan the QF ties they'll stage at home, but without being sure who'll be their visitors; the away teams need to wait for confirmation. Falcons and Ealing are guaranteed home ties (even though the latter may not win their pool)
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castleparknight ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Jun 2012 Location: Doncaster Status: Offline Points: 3002 |
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They did OK Mark but needed to cut out some of the errors - especially against classy teams who will capitalise on them as the Falcons did on Saturday.
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Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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No 7 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Oct 2011 Location: LONDON Status: Offline Points: 1872 |
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FRIDAY 21ST FEBRUARYQUARTER-FINAL
SATURDAY 22ND FEBRUARYQUARTER-FINAL
SUNDAY 23RD FEBRUARYQUARTER-FINAL
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Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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corporalcarrot ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Location: St Brelade Status: Offline Points: 4724 |
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Championship Cup Match Officials
Nottingham vs Doncaster Knights Referee: Anthony Woodthorpe Assistant referees: Ian Bibey, Nick Marshall Assessor: Martin Fox Ealing Trailfinders vs Jersey Referee: Hamish Smales Assistant referees: Fergus Kirby, John Meredith Assessor: Iain Mitchell Newcastle Falcons vs London Scottish Referee: Andrew Jackson Assistant referees: Gregg Dawson, James O'Brien Assessor: Peter Farrell Cornish Pirates vs Coventry Referee: Dean Richards Assistant referees: Neil Chivers, Ryan Collier Assessor: Steve Leyshon Edited by corporalcarrot - 18 Feb 2020 at 14:11 |
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corporalcarrot ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Location: St Brelade Status: Offline Points: 4724 |
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Difficult to see anything other than four home wins on current form but I'm hoping to see as good a game at Vallis Way as the two sides produced at St Peter a few weeks ago with perhaps a truck load of luck favouring the visitors. Brilliant hospitable back up by Trailfinders offering guidance on transport back to Gatwick should see me get back to Jersey tomorrow evening and save old cc from a domestic mauling.
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