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Robb ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jan 2017 Location: South East Status: Offline Points: 1535 |
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Yes they do. Kent is fairly evenly split between Quins and Sarries. London/Coventry Wasps (before they died) never had a look in.
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Paul10 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 24 Mar 2023 Location: Milton Keynes Status: Online Points: 693 |
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Fair enough. We're North Bucks so were technically part of the Wasps pathway. However Bedford and Saints have the links established so Wasps never really got a look in.
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JZSmith ![]() Academy player ![]() Joined: 27 Aug 2024 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 13 |
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Well it certainly raised a lot of money so give it another go and if they can't pay it back then simply run away, reform as Wasps Mark 3 and get a lot of ex-players to say how Wasps are too big a "brand" not to be involved at the top of English professional rugby. Simple.
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rugbychris ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() Joined: 02 May 2019 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 154 |
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Rural Kent is Saracens. South London is split between Quins and Sarries but in reality neither of them have the resources or funding to make any real impact. Between both clubs they probably employ 8 or 9 full-time community staff that are supposed to cover. Middlesex, Essex, Sussex, Kent, London, Hertfordshire surrey & Berkshire. There is a huge opportunity for a club to start taking London seriously. But who has a budget big enough to do so?
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workerbee ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 May 2009 Location: Wirral Status: Offline Points: 911 |
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What Wasps do is not the point . The issue is do the RFU accept the principal that any future club can simply buy themselves into the Championship without going through the pyramid of league rugby let alone any club who has a previous record of insolvency?. This would lead to the principal of "Franchise" teams dominating the game. What would stop a major football club simply creating a Rugby section with all their funding and profile (which this is the main reason that the RFU want Wasps back into the top 2 leagues).
Any move by the RFU would certainly create a chasm between levels 1 and 2 and the rest of the Rugby structure.
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JZSmith ![]() Academy player ![]() Joined: 27 Aug 2024 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 13 |
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Yes. Next question?
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Robb ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jan 2017 Location: South East Status: Offline Points: 1535 |
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Wasn't that what Newcastle United did with Gosforth RFC at the birth of professionalism?
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cheshire exile ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Status: Offline Points: 2495 |
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Not really, Gosforth was a long established and successful club, not something created from scratch.
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islander ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 2010 Location: jersey Status: Offline Points: 7507 |
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hi WB - anything further on your comment last week that: "Other reports show that RFU still entertaining the return of the 4 clubs, Wasps, London Irish, Worcester and Jersey being fast tracked into the championship."? Sounded dubious to me, but thought it fair to offer you the chance to back up what you'd said...
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workerbee ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 May 2009 Location: Wirral Status: Offline Points: 911 |
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I am trying to find the report on Google with no success but Rugby Paper did comment on possible returns to Prem 2.
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Rothman2 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Rotherham Joined: 20 Jan 2010 Location: Location Status: Offline Points: 11054 |
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A little history on how Newcastle evolved from Gosforth, to Newcastle Gosforth & then Newcastle Falcons : https://www.centurion-rugby.com/blogs/rugby/92374273-history-of-the-newcastle-falcons |
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Rotherham Titans. The greatest story never told.
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sedgley dave ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() Joined: 03 Apr 2011 Location: Prestwich Status: Offline Points: 187 |
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There was an article in The Times last week which, sadly, I have binned, so this is from memory. The return of Wasps, to the Championship initially, was presented as a fait accompli, and apparently welcomed by a spokesman from Canterbury Rugby Club.
There was a good point made, I thought, that any budding young professional in Kent currently has a long way to travel to train with either Quins or Saracens, and that was the main point of the article, that having a Premiership club there would beneficial to the game. It was also said (again, if my memory is correct) that Canterbury is the leading club in Kent (is it?) and that they were trying to consolidate in National 1. |
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Robb ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jan 2017 Location: South East Status: Offline Points: 1535 |
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East Kent maybe but technically, no they aren't. Blackheath are (even Tonbridge finished above Canterbury!). So of course Canterbury would welcome it, its not really impacting their area of Kent. And what about all those youth sections of Kent clubs? Or the fans that might go to Wasps Wanderers over supporting their local clubs?
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rugbychris ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() Joined: 02 May 2019 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 154 |
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Saracens have their DPP sessions at clubs across Kent. Medway? or Sevenoaks. I can't remember. In fact it's far more difficult for young people from inner-London to attend than it is for players in Kent
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Camquin ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Location: Cambridge Status: Online Points: 11284 |
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The major thing stopping franchises happening is just how poorly it served Newcastle United. That an all the evidence from years of professionalism as to how little interest there is in Premiership rugby compared to the spiralling cost. |
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Sweeney Delenda Est
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islander ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 2010 Location: jersey Status: Offline Points: 7507 |
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I summarised this article in my post last Thursday... and your recollection is pretty accurate SD. It only covered Wasps, and it was any recent serious suggestions about Wuss/LI/JerseyReds that I was seeking. I don't believe there have been any recent reports, and even if there have I'm doubtful about whether they'd be anything other than speculation...
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