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Originally posted by SurreyRugby SurreyRugby wrote:

I read this week that the Championship is limiting its numbers to 12 teams next season. is this correct?
As far as I'm aware, it hasn't been officially announced, but the COO of Bedford basically confirmed it on this week's Championship Clubs Podcast.
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Originally posted by Thatbloke Thatbloke wrote:

SurreyRugby - you are more or less correct in your assumptions although final number of promotions will need to be tweaked once we know the future of London Scottish and Championship numbers are finally confirmed
Bin Licker - Nat2 will be made up of North, South East and South West which is meant to mean less travelling but when illustrative leagues based on 2019/20 final tables were circulated it produced some weird computations (eg Chester in South West) 
Chester playing in Cornwall? RFU really must have been on the sauce to come up with that one.
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Whenever you draw geographical lines there's always one or two clubs on the extremeties that will be hard done by. Obviously the finishing positions come April will be different from the ones they used for illustration purposes but I would still expect some anomalies and perhaps an appeal or two (which will obviously fail!) 
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Originally posted by Bin Licker Bin Licker wrote:

Chester playing in Cornwall? RFU really must have been on the sauce to come up with that one.
Back in 2007-08, Luton played National Three South following a level transfer.  Had they remained in the North - which, being a Midlands club, is where they should have been - they'd have been playing Tynedale and Darlington MP.  No matter where you draw the boundaries, there will always be teams close to the edge who will feel hard done by.
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Originally posted by Mark W-J Mark W-J wrote:

Originally posted by Bin Licker Bin Licker wrote:

Chester playing in Cornwall? RFU really must have been on the sauce to come up with that one.

Back in 2007-08, Luton played National Three South following a level transfer.  Had they remained in the North - which, being a Midlands club, is where they should have been - they'd have been playing Tynedale and Darlington MP.  No matter where you draw the boundaries, there will always be teams close to the edge who will feel hard done by.


However as a Midlands team that would have been their natural position (travelling north) you cannot say the same for Chester
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Strange comment.  Effectively what you're saying is that if the RFU had drawn these boundaries in 1871 then it would have been natural for Chester to play in the 'West' region, but because they drew different boundaries 150 years ago it's unnatural to put clubs in new regions today.

And yes, I get that Redruth to Chester is a bloody long way, but it's the same distance as Redruth to Canterbury, which is a 'natural' fit.


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Chester could escape the South West dependent on who finishes Top3 in Midlands Prem eg Newport(Salop), Bridgnorth, Bromsgrove are all well south of Chester OR maybe Loughborough Students (the most southerly of current Nat2 North - Bournville are technically further south but probably nailed on for South West) were Level transferred to South East and the most westerly of the South Eastern clubs gets shunted sidewards into South West( no idea who that would be??) 

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Originally posted by Thatbloke Thatbloke wrote:

Chester could escape the South West dependent on who finishes Top3 in Midlands Prem eg Newport(Salop), Bridgnorth, Bromsgrove are all well south of Chester OR maybe Loughborough Students (the most southerly of current Nat2 North - Bournville are technically further south but probably nailed on for South West) were Level transferred to South East and the most westerly of the South Eastern clubs gets shunted sidewards into South West( no idea who that would be??) 


It could be Worthing or Henley - it has nothing to do with being most westerly, but is in fact calculated by taking the shortest combined mileage to the other teams in the division. A proviso to this is that if the difference is within 5%( I believe the number is correct) then they are treated as equal and the side that finishes the lower the previous season would make the move (as happened to Leicester Lions a couple of years ago when technically Hinckley were slightly shorter but within the buffer and finished ahead of Leicester in the table)
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