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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FHLH Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Dec 2022 at 23:04
Originally posted by One For The Ditch One For The Ditch wrote:

....or am I missing something??

Spot on and to me is epitomised by a club having 'supporters' rather than just 'fans'

I see that the RFU are keen to increase the games fan base which is great but needs to go hand in glove with clubs (us lot) developing player retention and recruitment opportunities. 

We know its a fabulous sport and I believe is a great moral compass for society - that's why the Saracens/Wasps/Worcester debacles are so bad for the sport and perhaps a reflection of society today. 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Big Eddie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Dec 2022 at 07:40
Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:

"We want Wasps & Worcester back in the Premiership"

(but we also want promotion from the Championship). Could ground standards be a way to keep clubs out of the Premiership?

To be honest the way their clubs have been behaving I'm more concerned with keeping their clubs in the Premiership and not polluting the rest of us! 

I couldn't agree more WEvans. It has been a very long time since the RFU and the Premiership had any  credibility or connection with Rugby as most of us knew it and still enjoy it at levels 2 to 9 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote One For The Ditch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Dec 2022 at 11:52
Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:

Originally posted by One For The Ditch One For The Ditch wrote:

....or am I missing something??

Spot on and to me is epitomised by a club having 'supporters' rather than just 'fans'

I see that the RFU are keen to increase the games fan base which is great but needs to go hand in glove with clubs (us lot) developing player retention and recruitment opportunities. 

We know its a fabulous sport and I believe is a great moral compass for society - that's why the Saracens/Wasps/Worcester debacles are so bad for the sport and perhaps a reflection of society today. 

What also grips my peanut, is paid (so called helpers) from the RFU telling us how best to run our clubs! What a bloody cheek....they need to have a serious look in the mirror; mark my word, every grass roots club will have individual volunteers with more experience of looking after the game of Rugby than  employees at Twickenham will ever have! 
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Originally posted by One For The Ditch One For The Ditch wrote:

What a bloody cheek....they need to have a serious look in the mirror; mark my word, every grass roots club will have individual volunteers with more experience of looking after the game of Rugby than  employees at Twickenham will ever have! 

My company runs a course "Brewery Management in the 21st Century". Any recommendations for participants?
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Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:

Originally posted by One For The Ditch One For The Ditch wrote:

What a bloody cheek....they need to have a serious look in the mirror; mark my word, every grass roots club will have individual volunteers with more experience of looking after the game of Rugby than  employees at Twickenham will ever have! 

My company runs a course "Brewery Management in the 21st Century". Any recommendations for participants?

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Ten-team Premiership and salary cap up for debate, says Leicester Tigers CEO Pinchen

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A 10-team Premiership with a reduced salary cap is being discussed by clubs, says Leicester Tigers chief executive Andrea Pinchen.

The financial demise of Wasps and Worcester has prompted their rivals to look at the league's overall health.

A further reduction of clubs from the 11 that remain and sticking to the £5m salary cap, which is to rise to £6.4m, are being debated by club chiefs.

"There is no big secret about it," said Pinchen.

"All the CEO's of the Premiership clubs are on a WhatsApp group. Everyone just says what they think.

"Everyone is like 'yeah, we agree that 10 is the way to go, as long as it's not me'.

"How that will work when we are sitting at 11 teams, I don't know?

"There is no hidden agenda. They want what is right for the sport."

Rob Baxter, Exeter's Premiership and European Champions Cup-winning director of rugby, has previously said a 10-team Premiership could be the best way to ensure England's top tier thrives in the future.

Pinchen said increased investment in the second-tier Championship "would have to be looked at" if the make-up of the Premiership was to be changed.

'Cap increase not right for league'

The size of the salary cap in a league in which clubs have reportedly amassed combined debts of £300m over the past six years has split opinions among owners and officials.

Clubs had unanimously agreed to cut the salary cap by £1.4m, to £5m, in the summer of 2020 in response to the finance fallout of the coronavirus pandemic.

The cap is set to return to £6.4m in 2024.

However, the limit to spending that clubs are working towards at the moment is having an impact, with Exeter's England winger Jack Nowell the latest star to be linked with a lucrative move away because the Devon side are struggling to offer him an acceptable deal.

Pinchen says Premiership title holders Leicester - who were last season punished for historical spending breaches - are "fundamentally" against the rise, but says they will spend up to the limit to remain competitive.

She adds that it is something that needs to be "re-looked at".

"Can I understand a very wealthy club wanting to get that stardust sprinkled in, as they see it, and increase the cap? Yes, I can," added Pinchen.

"Personally I don't think that is right for the game as we sit here now today.

"In any industry, if you looked across the board and everyone was losing a lot of money and had lots of debt to pay back, and you were then increasing the ability to spend - and that everyone will feel a certain pressure to spend if you want to remain competitive and recruit people who want to win and make you successful - then people would look at you as if there was something slightly wrong."

While Pinchen says that all clubs do not agree on the cap, she adds they are all "more aligned now" after enduring a difficult period through Covid together.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Runitback Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jan 2023 at 14:53
10 teams brilliant but only if:

They keep the reduced salary cap at £5.4

Promotion and Relegation

Fund Championship, also 10 teams, by £1.5m Pa

Oh an bring back England Counties for National league rugby
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Originally posted by Runitback Runitback wrote:

Oh an bring back England Counties for National league rugby

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And Nat 1 funding at £75k
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