Dual Registrations & Loans

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   I was just wondering like Squadron Leader is it time to move on with regards to DR's and Loans?  After all and I am sure this will go down like a lead balloon for some:
1. DR's have been around for ~19 years! And those young players always speak highly of their experience with the clubs and how it set their career up. Dan Cole being one of the early ones.

2. All clubs, yes all clubs have used them at some stage, whether short term or long term.

3. Every player who pulls on the team shirt will play for the team, for the fans of that team and may well get injured, potentially career ending for that team.

4. Clubs have been kind of forced into it with funding dramatically cut and the promised return of money disappearing, with no sponsor.  A cheap option is to pay a Premiership club for up and coming players.

5. All but Scottish took huge loans to entertain us during COVID and these need repaying, so the clubs need to save money.  We would rather they still be here and not go into oblivion!

6. The majority of the Championship clubs agree to the regulations.  Yes 10 starting or even in a squad is too much but the clubs allowed it!

7. As much as we would all like to not have them, the RFU are to blame for allowing Premiership clubs to hold on to all the talent.  They should also reward all clubs lower down the pyramids who produce players.

8. Championship clubs have agreed a voluntary code of having no more than 6 in a squad. Although 3 said they could not do this with agreements in place they would work towards the goal.  I guess the 3 are Scottish, Ampthill and Hartpury?  Next season these are proposed to be in the regulations.

9. Let's be honest if your club can't beat a bunch of 2/3rd choice Premiership players that have may been shipped in last minute, are you really title contenders ready to face a poor Newcastle side?  Last year Blues & Ealing both beat Premiership Cup teams, so it is doable.

10. There probably isn't going to be relegation yet again (a mistake in my opinion), so other than a bit pride for most clubs, what are we actually playing for.

Poll Question: Is it time to move on?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Yes it is time to stop the arguing	1	[25.00%]
No the arguing will end when this ends	3	[75.00%]
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The Blues Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List World Cup Winner Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Status: Offline Points: 4913	Post Options Post Reply Quote The Blues Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Dual Registrations & Loans Posted: 7 hours 57 minutes ago at 00:27
	I was just wondering like Squadron Leader is it time to move on with regards to DR's and Loans? After all and I am sure this will go down like a lead balloon for some: 1. DR's have been around for ~19 years! And those young players always speak highly of their experience with the clubs and how it set their career up. Dan Cole being one of the early ones. 2. All clubs, yes all clubs have used them at some stage, whether short term or long term. 3. Every player who pulls on the team shirt will play for the team, for the fans of that team and may well get injured, potentially career ending for that team. 4. Clubs have been kind of forced into it with funding dramatically cut and the promised return of money disappearing, with no sponsor. A cheap option is to pay a Premiership club for up and coming players. 5. All but Scottish took huge loans to entertain us during COVID and these need repaying, so the clubs need to save money. We would rather they still be here and not go into oblivion! 6. The majority of the Championship clubs agree to the regulations. Yes 10 starting or even in a squad is too much but the clubs allowed it! 7. As much as we would all like to not have them, the RFU are to blame for allowing Premiership clubs to hold on to all the talent. They should also reward all clubs lower down the pyramids who produce players. 8. Championship clubs have agreed a voluntary code of having no more than 6 in a squad. Although 3 said they could not do this with agreements in place they would work towards the goal. I guess the 3 are Scottish, Ampthill and Hartpury? Next season these are proposed to be in the regulations. 9. Let's be honest if your club can't beat a bunch of 2/3rd choice Premiership players that have may been shipped in last minute, are you really title contenders ready to face a poor Newcastle side? Last year Blues & Ealing both beat Premiership Cup teams, so it is doable. 10. There probably isn't going to be relegation yet again (a mistake in my opinion), so other than a bit pride for most clubs, what are we actually playing for.

Storty Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Academy player Joined: 28 Apr 2024 Location: Stortford Status: Online Points: 25	Post Options Post Reply Quote Storty Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 53 minutes ago at 07:31
	I've only got into rugby over the last couple of years and struggle with the excessive use of dual registrations. I genuinely do not see the point in a club playing at a certain level if they can only do it by loaning half their team. Would much rather get relegated with your own team. It's quite ridiculous you have championship clubs relying on a club one league above them. Not that rugby allows promotion, but if a championship club with 8 dual reg won the league and their ground were big enough then they'd lose half their team on promotion. Domestic rugby is already a closed shop but some championship and nat 1 clubs need to have some self respect and stop relying on dual reg. Let the prem youngsters form their own division rather than infiltrating clubs lower down. Some may say that they're needed for injury cover. Totally disagree. That's what your 2nd team is for. If a player in your 2s is injured you go to your 3s. Same concept for the 1s. Would personally like the rule to be no more than 2 dual reg in the squad. No issue with a couple joining but it becomes silly when half the team aren't your players.

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	[QUOT but if a championship club with 8 dual reg won the league and their ground were big enough then they'd lose half their team on promotion. [/QUOTE] If nothing else, this is the crux of the matter. So at the end of the season Hartpury (for example) get promoted, lose all their dual reg players and come back down, probably as most of the clubs enjoying (?) hosting more than 4 DR players in a match side would do. No-one would (could) ever make promotion to the premiership sustainable. Those clubs who actively seek promotion either need to invest or forget it.