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Originally posted by front5 front5 wrote:

What’s going on at DMP!!! 4 games in 4 losses, 1 point (4 tries), closest we have come to a losing bonus point was 2 converted score away, so far!!! 

We kept all but a few player’s, brining in new talent in the right area, have a stable coaching set up, some of the best training, recovery and physio facilities in the league out of the Arena, have access to some fantastic DRs for the season also! There is something a miss?

After preseason I was honestly impressed, thinking about his could be DMPs time, since placing 2nd in the 17/18 season. I was wrong, I’ve attended 3 games so far this year, but after today’s game I couldn’t stomach a beer in the bar afterwards, It’s so bad I have not entered the fantasy league for last 3 weeks as can’t bring myself to forecast 5 - 0 to opponents. Not taking anything from out opponents so far this season but they are facing up against a team who look completely disenchanted, falling apart as a team, making decisions which are actually gifting scores to their opponents, rather than fighting to the end, players and staff looking like they have lost faith and given up.

It kills me to say it but after 24 years of watching DMP, traveling home and away (when I work allows) I’m considering posting my season ticket back in the morning.

I don’t mind losing games, some of the best performances are from lost matches.

I don’t think this is not a talent issue, the talent is in this squad without doubt. It isn’t experience with so many players with over 100 games for the club. It points to a deeper routed problems, which are to be beyond the knowledge of the lowly status of a member and fan such as I.



Not sure it is as bleak as it appears. This league gets harder season by season. Sale FC finished second (five points from promotion) and third (one point from promotion) in consecutive seasons then didn't win their first match in the following season until end of September and only one three games in the whole of September, October and November. We didn't lose many players from the previous season but the wheels fell off. Fortunately for us we managed to cobble them together to maintain our Nat 1 status. I suspect DMP will be fine.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Storty Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Oct 2024 at 15:04
Front5-DMP seems like a similar story to Stortford this season. Recruitment seemed good and pre season went very well.

The 2 games I've been to (Blackheath and Plymouth) however they've been taken apart with ease. 

The standard does seem to get stronger each year. I wonder if there's a trickle effect from so many pro clubs going bust meaning a higher standard of player now plays Nat 1.

Either way, very early days. Keep the faith.
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Callum Pascoe……….. class player and a good scrum half is so influential to how a team runs.

Ollie Hodgson………..club captain.


Both big boots to fill, and talent as such may be like for like with recruitment, what they brought regards the team and how it runs will be very hard to replace.

Still early days. I would still suggest a mid table finish for DMP.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote front5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Oct 2024 at 09:15
Originally posted by NorthernSpec NorthernSpec wrote:

Callum Pascoe……….. class player and a good scrum half is so influential to how a team runs.

Ollie Hodgson………..club captain.


Both big boots to fill, and talent as such may be like for like with recruitment, what they brought regards the team and how it runs will be very hard to replace.

Still early days. I would still suggest a mid table finish for DMP.

Olly has not been as influential in last year or two with injuries and players coming in like Yarri and Will Jones 

Agree with Pascoe but Lee Dickson is assistant coach bet he can still pass a ball / control the game at this level. Garry Law is pivotal still. 

Either way I did not return season ticket and going to CLUB this Saturday so let’s hope for something different 
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OH may not have been as influential on the playing side due to injuries but being around the squad, setting standards, building confidence and passing on knowledge help the team mentally and builds towards a winning mindset. Like you said, it’s not necessarily the talent that is lacking it seems more of a mentality thing.

I’m sure Dickson can fling a ball around but last time I checked he wasn’t on the pitch playing. Again, CP and the young Douglas on loan from Falcons at scrum half may not be miles apart in skill set but when it comes to having control under pressure, having the right mindset and that win at all cost mentality CP is miles ahead with his years of experience under his belt which is so important in such a pivotal position.

Like I said, early days, hopefully DMP will learn quickly and start picking up the wins.
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Hey front 5 will be great to welcome you to Well Hall this weekend. Hopefully you will have a nice visit but not good if you catch my drift. As others have said this league changes in the blink of an eye
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The two home games have been very different: Rotherham are clearly very well coached, with great cohesion and a physicality that the Mowden players couldn't match.

 

Against Rosslyn Park, it was obvious from before kickoff that Mowden would struggle for any sort of fluency because of the players available. The back line was without most of its starters and there would be no scenario before the season that you would've wanted Shaun McCartney to return and play outside of Junior Newton, making his first start for the club, and two centres who had probably never played together before.

 

Equally, I don't think anyone would consider (the nearly 44-year-old) Talite Vaioleti and (new signing) Louis PeaHuckleberry to be our best second row partnership, so I think it was to the players’ credit, particularly Joe Craggs, that the line out functioned so well, and the scrum was generally solid.

 

However, the cohesion that Rotherham showed was missing from Mowden’s play against Rosslyn Park and there was (understandably) a distinct lack of attacking threat, with no obvious planned attacking moves, few moments when the ball carrier had offloading options from support runners, and the general sense of predictability was clear from early in the game.

 

I'm realistic because I know we have a squad of part-time players, one that is currently ravaged by injury, and coaches who work full-time and give a lot of time and effort to this Club, and I know we don't have a deep squad of players who are experienced at this level, playing with teammates they know well. As has been said, the loss of Callum Pascoe is huge because he was such an integral part of organising our attack and could be relied on as an accurate placekicker. Harry Yates, as a hard running centre who always ran good, threatening, lines is also a miss. Both are now in the Championship. I always I thought the first month would be difficult while the new signings familiarised themselves with their new teammates and returning players finished rehabbing their injuries.

 

Also, I'm pretty sure Lee Dickson is no longer with DMP because it was announced last month that he was rejoining the Falcons, coaching their scrum halves once a week on top of his full-time job at Barnard Castle; he isn't listed on the DMP website with the other coaches. Another huge loss we could ill afford.

 

Although I’m hopeful that, as players return injury and others grow in experience and composure, narrow losses turn into narrow wins, it might be that this is the season our 10-year stay in National 1 comes to an end and we have to go down to 2N for a year or two. If it is, it will be sad, but the rugby will be good to watch and the travelling will be much easier for players, coaches, and supporters. 

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