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Wasps in Kent - Event Date: 24 Oct 2023

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I would have thought raising the cash wouldn’t be too much of a problem. Sell the housing off plan would raise the cash. Time would be the factor as it would take years. 
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If Kent council are anything like Cornwall council they will promise the world for the next 20 years and then put the plans in the shredder!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kimbo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jan 2024 at 12:38
Originally posted by knightandday knightandday wrote:

I would have thought raising the cash wouldn’t be too much of a problem. Sell the housing off plan would raise the cash. Time would be the factor as it would take years. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FHLH Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jan 2024 at 13:32
Originally posted by knightandday knightandday wrote:

I would have thought raising the cash wouldn’t be too much of a problem. Sell the housing off plan would raise the cash. Time would be the factor as it would take years. 

South East housing deficit is the key. Use rugby club as (i) potential employer and (ii) s106 offset for sports facilities. 

Self funding stadium:

2,900 houses at average 21% net margin say, 2,900 less 40% social housing (bargained down to 25%). 

So 2,900 x 75% x £400,000 [*average price] x 21% = ~£150m to £200m less build cost of social housing say, £100m less land cost £??? (some allegedly owned by golf club)

Fun eh!! Confused

Feel free to pull apart!!

* more likely £500,000-£600,000 given time delays

Kent 2023 - Zoopla average house price
Detached  - £643,847
Semi-detached  - £416,932
Terraced - £321,660
Flats - £218,350

- meets Local Plan 2040 objectives
- close to London & Channel ports
- buoyant buy-to-let market
- one of few areas where house prices are still rising
- additional £6m [Band D ~£2,000] in Council Tax (and yes, there will be extra costs)

Ideal venture capital funded project Wink


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You forget the long list of people that need to be paid including HMRC and DCMS and the little matter of £35m to bond holders ...Need to sell a good few houses ..


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FHLH Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jan 2024 at 14:24
Originally posted by Scrumtime Scrumtime wrote:

You forget the long list of people that need to be paid including HMRC and DCMS and the little matter of £35m to bond holders ...Need to sell a good few houses ..


But, how do you pay those creditors from new funding body? If a way round can be found around Insolvency legislation....


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They will have to be quick, donations to the Tory party won't be worth much after the next election.
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Originally posted by Scrumtime Scrumtime wrote:

Furious villagers hold tractor protest over plans to build 28,000-seat rugby stadium and housing estate on greenbelt land (msn.com)

Not wanted in Kent 



100% are the Wasps Wanderers not wanted. I cannot believe Sevenoaks council are even considering this nonsense.
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Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

..I cannot believe Sevenoaks council are even considering this nonsense.

I don't think they have any choice bearing in mind the number of houses in the application Confused


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jan 2024 at 15:09
I believe the council will be obliged to consider the application.

And I do not believe commercial viability - of the new application or the existing businesses - is among of the things they are permitted to look at.

The developers know what the council has to consider, and will have worded the proposal so it fits with the "local plan" or as it is known in the common tongue, the requirements imposed on the County council by Central Government. 

Remember, Michael Gove is going to punish all the lazy councils who do not have plans to build the houses he has promised.
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Originally posted by HookerPaul HookerPaul wrote:

If Kent council are anything like Cornwall council they will promise the world for the next 20 years and then put the plans in the shredder!


How much it costs.

It's a really old thread but Scarlets are renegotiating their loan with the council.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rabbie Burns Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Aug 2024 at 19:33
Would doubt if KCC would loan money out they are always pleading skint and keep cancelling projects and that sort of site will be prime for councils to meet their new housing targets
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Originally posted by Rabbie Burns Rabbie Burns wrote:

Would doubt if KCC would loan money out they are always pleading skint and keep cancelling projects and that sort of site will be prime for councils to meet their new housing targets

Housing people rather than cuckoos is the way forward!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kimbo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Aug 2024 at 21:57
Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

Originally posted by Rabbie Burns Rabbie Burns wrote:

Would doubt if KCC would loan money out they are always pleading skint and keep cancelling projects and that sort of site will be prime for councils to meet their new housing targets

Housing people rather than cuckoos is the way forward!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Halliford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Sep 2024 at 12:48
Just seen a piece saying that Wasps are hoping to play at The Valley, home ground of Charlton Athletic, if they get a place at Level 2 next season. Heads still in clouds, it seems!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Sep 2024 at 13:54
You could hear the crowds at the Valley from Blackheath's Rectory Field ground.
It is under three miles from the Eltham Pleasance.



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