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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote castleparknight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Sep 2019 at 11:54
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Originally posted by Member728 Member728 wrote:

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Falcons are a class side with brilliant supporters who will get better and fitter as the season develops
I did not realise how unfit their supporters were
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote God Bless The Apple Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Sep 2019 at 18:13
Having seen a replay, Sir was correct - the quick tap was within close proximity to the infringement by the Jersey 9. The Falcons player drops the ball backwards, and a team-mate picks up and the try is scored. Sir then comes back to YC the Jersey 9 - all looked pretty fine to me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote No 7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Sep 2019 at 18:45
Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Reds v Falcons highlights, including the much-discussed quick tap for the visitors' opening score. It was a clumsy tap - what do you expect from a prop*? - but the tap itself was only one pace sideways from where the infringement took place, and the ball went backwards, so I maintain my view that there was nothing wrong with it.


* albeit from a brilliant bloke and player who'll always be welcome in St Ouen! Wink

I looked closely at the highlights and it seems to me that the Falcons are constantly off side. They `creep` forward and are never at the back foot. Their collective anticipation ( offside ) is exceptional. Any team given the chance to speak to the ref pre match should emphasise the back foot and the creep.
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“All credit to Bedford for stepping up and scoring four tries ( although one was blatantly a forward pass at 6:45 on Youtube from the replacement scrum half “

Very patronising No 7, you should know better than that. You have the money at the moment, what happens when it disappears? Gate receipts?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote No 7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Sep 2019 at 21:15
You are right......sorry I should never have taken the bait.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WEvans Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Sep 2019 at 13:54
Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

The injury to George Davis is subject to a serious citing. I know who player is but will let someone else give v the details.

It should stand out from all the non-serious citings then!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote No 7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Sep 2019 at 11:01
There have been citings for swearing !. There are citings that take three official hearings before a decision is made where they are obviously borderline. There are clear cut off the ball incidents that none of the officials have spotted but are clearly shown and have video evidence.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brizzer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Sep 2019 at 22:28
Originally posted by God Bless The Apple God Bless The Apple wrote:

Having seen a replay, Sir was correct - the quick tap was within close proximity to the infringement by the Jersey 9. The Falcons player drops the ball backwards, and a team-mate picks up and the try is scored. Sir then comes back to YC the Jersey 9 - all looked pretty fine to me.

I agree and take it back. From where we were standing you could not see the stooping forward tap the ball, it seemed to come out sideways in continuous play.
With regards to players ‘creeping ‘ at the breakdown, this has been getting more and more frequent at all levels of the game, but seems to be more prevalent the higher the level of the game
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mickyboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Sep 2019 at 12:00
No 7 what happened to the certain citing of a Bedford player. Nothing mentioned to citing officer.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WEvans Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Sep 2019 at 14:48
Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

There have been citings for swearing !. There are citings that take three official hearings before a decision is made where they are obviously borderline. There are clear cut off the ball incidents that none of the officials have spotted but are clearly shown and have video evidence.

Disappointed to hear that swearing is not considered serious particularly if it aimed at the officials.

I would have thought that a citing is a citing and it is up to those investigating rather than those making it to decide whether it is a serious incident or not.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WEvans Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Sep 2019 at 14:49
Originally posted by Mickyboy Mickyboy wrote:

No 7 what happened to the certain citing of a Bedford player. Nothing mentioned to citing officer.

Perhaps it wasn't serious enough Big smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote OldNick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Sep 2019 at 15:05
Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

I would have thought that a citing is a citing and it is up to those investigating rather than those making it to decide whether it is a serious incident or not.


That is why at Championship level and above, the club does not cite a player, but the citing officer does. A club may suggest that the citing officer may wish to look at an incident, but it up to the citing officer to decide whether the incident is serious enough (ie red card level), and then if appropriate cite the player and thereby put the process of a disciplinary hearing in place.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote No 7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Sep 2019 at 21:08
Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

Originally posted by Mickyboy Mickyboy wrote:

No 7 what happened to the certain citing of a Bedford player. Nothing mentioned to citing officer.

Perhaps it wasn't serious enough Big smile

George Davis left the Field and according to a Bedford fan on here was staggering all over the pitch and needed assistance to leave the field. He will not be able to play for several weeks. You might think it deserves a grinning face but ironically you are........"Disappointed to hear that swearing is not considered serious " 

Your choice and your opinion !.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote No 7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Sep 2019 at 07:50
Originally posted by OldNick OldNick wrote:

Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

I would have thought that a citing is a citing and it is up to those investigating rather than those making it to decide whether it is a serious incident or not.


That is why at Championship level and above, the club does not cite a player, but the citing officer does. A club may suggest that the citing officer may wish to look at an incident, but it up to the citing officer to decide whether the incident is serious enough (ie red card level), and then if appropriate cite the player and thereby put the process of a disciplinary hearing in place.



In my opinion the act of citing can only begin with a club producing a statement and evidence to the citing officer. Making the claim ( citing ) for the citing official to make a decision to investigate further and make the decision for further action against a player.

The definition of citing or being cited is the production of evidence or statement and that can only be the club .
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gerg_861 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Sep 2019 at 20:31
Apparently Ollie Stedman picked up a 3 week ban for punching a Hartpury player last week. Reported on the champrugby official twitter.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote OldNick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Sep 2019 at 21:27
Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

Originally posted by OldNick OldNick wrote:

Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

I would have thought that a citing is a citing and it is up to those investigating rather than those making it to decide whether it is a serious incident or not.


That is why at Championship level and above, the club does not cite a player, but the citing officer does. A club may suggest that the citing officer may wish to look at an incident, but it up to the citing officer to decide whether the incident is serious enough (ie red card level), and then if appropriate cite the player and thereby put the process of a disciplinary hearing in place.



In my opinion the act of citing can only begin with a club producing a statement and evidence to the citing officer. Making the claim ( citing ) for the citing official to make a decision to investigate further and make the decision for further action against a player.

The definition of citing or being cited is the production of evidence or statement and that can only be the club .

You can believe what you like. That is not how it works at Championship level.
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