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Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Any idea what this means "The Final of the Championship Cup takes place the weekend after the semi-finals, 12-14 May, and will be played at the home ground of the club with the best playing record in the semi-finals."? Does that mean the higher seeded team coming out of the Semi? Or does it mean the team with the best outcome e.g. 5-0 vs. 4-1 in points?

I read it as if Pirates win they are at home and if Jersey win they are away to whoever wins the other match.

Originally posted by Brizzer Brizzer wrote:

It says ‘in the semi-finals’ so surely it means the best performing team in the semi’s. I.e. bonus point win, then biggest points difference or tries scored etc. That way every team has the opportunity of hosting the final.

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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Any idea what this means "The Final of the Championship Cup takes place the weekend after the semi-finals, 12-14 May, and will be played at the home ground of the club with the best playing record in the semi-finals."? Does that mean the higher seeded team coming out of the Semi? Or does it mean the team with the best outcome e.g. 5-0 vs. 4-1 in points?

I read it as if Pirates win they are at home and if Jersey win they are away to whoever wins the other match.

Originally posted by Brizzer Brizzer wrote:

It says ‘in the semi-finals’ so surely it means the best performing team in the semi’s. I.e. bonus point win, then biggest points difference or tries scored etc. That way every team has the opportunity of hosting the final.

I answered Gerg's query above... Smile
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The semi-final pairings are bizarre.
Jersey P6 W5 25 points 
Doncaster P6 W4 23 points 

So who has the best playing record? Oh, yes, Doncaster of course! 

So points from matches decides your place in the table, but not for qualifying for the semi-final. 
Jersey won 5 games, Donny won 4, so obviously Donny have a better record!
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Originally posted by *Stalwart *Stalwart wrote:

The semi-final pairings are bizarre.
Jersey P6 W5 25 points 
Doncaster P6 W4 23 points 

So who has the best playing record? Oh, yes, Doncaster of course! 

So points from matches decides your place in the table, but not for qualifying for the semi-final. 
Jersey won 5 games, Donny won 4, so obviously Donny have a better record!


Get your point Stalwart, but t'other side of it is that Donny won a pool, Reds didn't, and that's how they've ended up doing it.

Not saying which way's right, but there are 2 ways of skinning this cat. Was same in old Heineken Cup with 5 pools and 3 runners-up qualifying for QFs - those 3 clubs were automatically ranked 6/7/8 even if they 'out-performed' any pool winners.
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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by *Stalwart *Stalwart wrote:

The semi-final pairings are bizarre.
<span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: myriad-pro, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Jersey P6 W5 25 points </span><br style="font-size: 16px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: myriad-pro, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: myriad-pro, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Doncaster P6 W4 23 points </span><br style="font-size: 16px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: myriad-pro, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><br style="font-size: 16px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: myriad-pro, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: myriad-pro, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">So who has the best playing record? Oh, yes, Doncaster of course! </span><br style="font-size: 16px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: myriad-pro, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><br style="font-size: 16px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: myriad-pro, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: myriad-pro, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">So points from matches decides your place in the table, but not for qualifying for the semi-final. </span><br style="font-size: 16px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: myriad-pro, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: myriad-pro, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Jersey won 5 games, Donny won 4, so obviously Donny have a better record!</span>



Get your point Stalwart, but t'other side of it is that Donny won a pool, Reds didn't, and that's how they've ended up doing it.

Not saying which way's right, but there are 2 ways of skinning this cat. Was same in old Heineken Cup with 5 pools and 3 runners-up qualifying for QFs - those 3 clubs were automatically ranked 6/7/8 even if they 'out-performed' any pool winners.

That is why I thought that the semis would be on a who performs best in these games basis.
In theory, no. 4 seeds Jersey could go to the No. 1 seed Pirates, win and yet still be seeded lower than the other 2 teams.
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The seedings don't count for anything after the semi-finals; clubs have been told that team with biggest winning margin in the semi earns home advantage for the final.

Pirates v Reds confirmed for Friday, 7.30pm. Date works well around various other events on the Saturday, including Cornwall's home Billy B Cup tie, the annual Siam Cup festivities between Jersey and Guernsey, and some royal pageantry in London.


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The Pirates webcast is now available for the match on Friday at £7 for those keen to follow it but also wanting to see the Siam Cup games in Jersey the following day.

The link is Webcasts (247.tv)
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