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Originally posted by titans.chris titans.chris wrote:

When we (Rotherham) nearly went bust there was no help from the RFU, had we gone bust we would have had to start at the bottom of the pyramid. We were extremely lucky that two new investors came in at the 11th hour and saved us. 

I actually played in the pre match friendly as an under 13 against Barnsley. Ulster who the titans were meant to be playing were warming up and no Rotherham team turned up as there was no money. The Ulster lads came and watched our game and went home. We were thinking we were going to be gonners like Wakefield and Orrell. 

As said above we were lucky. 

When London Welsh went bust (a club with an amazing history) they had to start at the bottom of the pile. 

When Jersey went bust they had to do the same. In fact you could argue the RFU killed Jersey, as they nearly did to us, with their ridiculous minimum ground criteria. Now this rule is changed to allow ambitious sides 5 years to develop...... 

No one is saying they don't want Worcester to come back, we are simply saying it is completely unfair for them to be shoe horned into tier 2 over more deserving clubs. Some of my most fond memories are the mighty Roth battling it out for promotion against the ferocious Wuss. Awesome games.

Nothing is stopping Worcester fans watching the club rise back up the leagues. What is unfair is for Worcester, who went bust, to waltz in and take a place from a deserving side, whoever that may be. Most likely Richmond and Rams if two were to be promoted from Nat 1 and 1 to be relegated from them prem.
Which the RFU wont do...

Very fair and balanced post. 
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Richmond and London Scottish also had to restart in the London leagues and work their way back up


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Originally posted by Jester10 Jester10 wrote:

Originally posted by titans.chris titans.chris wrote:

When we (Rotherham) nearly went bust there was no help from the RFU, had we gone bust we would have had to start at the bottom of the pyramid. We were extremely lucky that two new investors came in at the 11th hour and saved us. 

I actually played in the pre match friendly as an under 13 against Barnsley. Ulster who the titans were meant to be playing were warming up and no Rotherham team turned up as there was no money. The Ulster lads came and watched our game and went home. We were thinking we were going to be gonners like Wakefield and Orrell. 

As said above we were lucky. 

When London Welsh went bust (a club with an amazing history) they had to start at the bottom of the pile. 

When Jersey went bust they had to do the same. In fact you could argue the RFU killed Jersey, as they nearly did to us, with their ridiculous minimum ground criteria. Now this rule is changed to allow ambitious sides 5 years to develop...... 

No one is saying they don't want Worcester to come back, we are simply saying it is completely unfair for them to be shoe horned into tier 2 over more deserving clubs. Some of my most fond memories are the mighty Roth battling it out for promotion against the ferocious Wuss. Awesome games.

Nothing is stopping Worcester fans watching the club rise back up the leagues. What is unfair is for Worcester, who went bust, to waltz in and take a place from a deserving side, whoever that may be. Most likely Richmond and Rams if two were to be promoted from Nat 1 and 1 to be relegated from them prem.
Which the RFU wont do...

Very fair and balanced post. 

Yes I agree with most of what you say here, and very true that both Richmond and London Scottish also regrouped at the bottom and rose up again (as are London Welsh - currently dominating at Level 5 and soon to be back in the National Leagues).

However, the same is not quite true of the Jersey situation. The current Jersey RFC playing at Level 5 (formerly Jersey Athletic) separated from the professional wing (Jersey Reds) back in 2022. They began life at Level 7 in Counties 1 Hampshire and so not right at the bottom of the pyramid.

Perhaps the wisest decision ever made was separating the two entities at Jersey prior to the professional setup going kaput. The fact it was propped up for so long with around £1m of taxpayers money (unlike other clubs) is another whole topic/thread, but never sat right with me and begs the question why that ever happened, if at the time the club knew they wouldn't meet the MSC. 

At the risk of being demonised, I wouldn't lay all of that farce at the door of the RFU (albeit they can be blamed for plenty of other matters!)


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