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rugbychris 
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 Posted: 30 Jan 2025 at 14:12 |
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wouldnt surprise me in the least. they are very cagey around investment specifics.
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Camquin
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Posted: 30 Jan 2025 at 14:44 |
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The Board remuneration is a separate line item. We can imply for BS's comments that it includes The insurance premiums that cover loss of earnings for amateur players. While the cover is minimal, it can be vital for those that do need to claim. All payments to referees outside the top two levels. I doubt these have kept pace with inflation. Including all the costs of running the Referees Societies. All the costs of running the CBs and the NCA. The Astroturf pitches - though the roll-out seems to have slowed. Loans and grants for new facilities - though again this is being squeezed. And an ever reducing number of Rugby Development Officers. It would be helpful if those with closer links could put numbers on each of these. The key thing, is that the amount paid to clubs is lower than it was 8 years ago. While the money paid to the professional game has doubled, and of that, more of that goes to the ten Premiership clubs as the funding to Championship clubs has gone down £3 million.
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Big Eddie
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Posted: 30 Jan 2025 at 15:16 |
Where the Board remuneration and all other staff costs are shown in the Profit and Loss account is certainly not clear. Although I am a Chartered Accountant is very many years since I produced a set of PLC type accounts. Although there is disclosure in the notes around Board remuneration this note is not referenced against either Cost of Sales or Overheads . I do not think there is anything under the Companies Act or the various accounting standards which would stop the RFU chucking employment costs and other overhead costs into the bucket market Rugby Development Investment. Do I know that such employment and overhead costs are included in the £30.5m bucket labelled Rugby Development Investment costs?......No I do not know. Am I suspicious of the £30.5m Rugby Development Investment number .....Yes I am hugely suspicious of this number because I do not trust the RFU to be clear and transparent on anything. This is how far my trust in the RFU has fallen in recent years and for me this lack of trust started before Bill Sweeney's tenure but it has now completely evaporated
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Thatbloke
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Posted: 30 Jan 2025 at 16:36 |
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Small point maybe but there is NO cover for loss of earnings for amateur players within the RFU Block policy. It is very strictly for insurance against serious injury and is very specific. Loss of Limbs or Neck injuries/paralysis are all that is covered. Important for those who are unfortunate enough to suffer such injury but thankfully few and far between
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Camquin
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Posted: 30 Jan 2025 at 16:58 |
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Thanks ThatBloke - I recalled it being very limited, but it is obviously even less than I remembered. As limited as it is, it is still useful for those it does pay out to.
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IonMan
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Posted: 31 Jan 2025 at 12:39 |
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Community game investment presumably includes match officials travel costs in National Leagues, that will add up to a large chunk of it.
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One For The Ditch
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“All payments to referees outside the top two levels. I doubt these have kept pace with inflation. Including all the costs of running the Referees Societies”
Certainly at level 5, Community clubs are already paying for referees via the annual “charge” of £1200.
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sedgley dave
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Given Beaumont's support for Sweeney, it might be of interest to know that Fylde 2nd XV failed to play their league fixture at Sedgley Park on Saturday. Beyond this fact I have no information; there may be a perfectly good reason, but it doesn't bode well for the 'recreational' game.
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Big Eddie
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Posted: 03 Feb 2025 at 14:09 |
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SedgleyDave,
Out of 11 matches conceded in the Halbro Premier league (prior to last weekend) no less than 8 were concedes against Caldy's 2nd xv. When a supposed big club like Fylde cannot fulfill a second xv league fixture the Community Game has a very serious problem.
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Rabbie Burns
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Posted: 03 Feb 2025 at 17:49 |
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Funnily enough on the other foot Blackheath put out a fourth XV and this did not include any players from 1s or 2s who were on a weekend off
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So many Christians not enough Lions
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Rabbie Burns
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Posted: 03 Feb 2025 at 17:51 |
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Oops pressed the wrong button.
It finishes with for the first time in many years
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So many Christians not enough Lions
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