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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NationalLeagueBadger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Yesterday at 23:05
IF Prem Two features 14 sides then six groups of four makes sense - would guarantee two/three extra home games although would mean a minimum 31-match season for the second tier clubs.

Financially for those teams it would be a huge boost, especially if at home to Premiership clubs.
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Worcester will get the best home ties.

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Is it a reasonable assumption to suggest that next years Prem Cup will consist of the following teams from Tier 2:

Ealing
Cov
Donny
Pirates
Ampthill 
Hartpury
Blues
Cambridge
Chinnor
Caldy
Scottish 
Warriors
Rams
Notts

Obviously there is still much to play for in the Champ and National 1, but I don't think that this list is far off the mark when it comes to next season. I'd suggest that some of those clubs are on borrowed time, and if true professionalism is to filter down to Level 2 (which in our heart of hearts we all know is needed) then some of those clubs ought to make way for others that aspire to meet the grade for what is required to operate as a professional outfit.




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Another very bizarre post by you. Are you a wind up merchant or do you work for the RFU?

How do you define professional ?

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Full time professional rugby in England is a financial disaster. My review of the latest filings at Companies House shows that every Premiership club in England disclosed a loss in their latest filed accounts with the largest loss £7m and the average loss circa £3.5m. I will need to check but in virtually all cases the financial losses had increased in 2024 compared to 2023......one exception was Exeter who only lost £circa £400k in 2024 compared to losing £4m+ in 2023, drastic cost cutting by trimming their squad was the likely reason

To want to impose full time squads onto tier 2 will just result in a swathe more insolvencies.......it is bonkers
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Originally posted by Big Eddie Big Eddie wrote:

Full time professional rugby in England is a financial disaster. My review of the latest filings at Companies House shows that <u style="font-weight: bold;">every Premiership club in England disclosed a loss in their latest filed accounts with the largest loss £7m and the average loss circa £3.5m. I will need to check but in virtually all cases the financial losses had increased in 2024 compared to 2023......one exception was Exeter who only lost £circa £400k in 2024 compared to losing £4m+ in 2023, drastic cost cutting by trimming their squad was the likely reason

To want to impose full time squads onto tier 2 will just result in a swathe more insolvencies.......it is bonkers


Think Exeter sold off their share in the adjoining Hotel which would account for the reduced loss
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Originally posted by Se7en Se7en wrote:

Is it a reasonable assumption to suggest that next years Prem Cup will consist of the following teams from Tier 2:

Ealing
Cov
Donny
Pirates
Ampthill 
Hartpury
Blues
Cambridge
Chinnor
Caldy
Scottish 
Warriors
Rams
Notts

Obviously there is still much to play for in the Champ and National 1, but I don't think that this list is far off the mark when it comes to next season. I'd suggest that some of those clubs are on borrowed time, and if true professionalism is to filter down to Level 2 (which in our heart of hearts we all know is needed) then some of those clubs ought to make way for others that aspire to meet the grade for what is required to operate as a professional outfit.








You seem to have discounted Wasps (rightly so in my opinion)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote islander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 7 hours 17 minutes ago at 16:23
Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Se7en Se7en wrote:

Is it a reasonable assumption to suggest that next years Prem Cup will consist of the following teams from Tier 2:

Ealing
Cov
Donny
Pirates
Ampthill 
Hartpury
Blues
Cambridge
Chinnor
Caldy
Scottish 
Warriors
Rams
Notts

Obviously there is still much to play for in the Champ and National 1, but I don't think that this list is far off the mark when it comes to next season. I'd suggest that some of those clubs are on borrowed time, and if true professionalism is to filter down to Level 2 (which in our heart of hearts we all know is needed) then some of those clubs ought to make way for others that aspire to meet the grade for what is required to operate as a professional outfit.



You seem to have discounted Wasps (rightly so in my opinion)

media speculation this past week that Worcester were the 'chosen ones' for the 14th Champ spot... (altho' it's not able that no-one has followed that up, so maybe it's wide-of-the-mark?!)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote workerbee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 5 hours 41 minutes ago at 17:59
Earlier comments have suggested that the Prem Cup will be limited to 16 teams - 10 prem and top six from Championship  Leaving 8 clubs without games similar to Chinnor and Cambridge this season. Unless an alternative competition for them can be found either with Scotland or Wales sides. An 8 team alt cup could be run 2 pools of 4 home and away plus semi and Final. Still means that some clubs will lose at least 4 weeks in mid season.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 4 hours 46 minutes ago at 18:54
There was some talk of a 64 team knockout cup against National League clubs.
But if it is a true knockout, while two clubs will get six games, most will get one.

And a match between a Nat 2 side and a Championship team, even without their loan players, could well resemble Georgia v Switzerland. So, I do not see it being a draw for either side.

Hopefully, the new chair of the Tier 2 board will be able to explain the advantage of France operating in a 30 team model.

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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

There was some talk of a 64 team knockout cup against National League clubs.
But if it is a true knockout, while two clubs will get six games, most will get one.

And a match between a Nat 2 side and a Championship team, even without their loan players, could well resemble Georgia v Switzerland. So, I do not see it being a draw for either side.

Hopefully, the new chair of the Tier 2 board will be able to explain the advantage of France operating in a 30 team model.


I guess the maths could work, if 6 of the 14 Champ clubs joined 10 in the Prem to make 16, while the other 8 were added to 56 NL clubs to make 64. 

I hadn't heard this before: "some talk" by anyone with any close connection to where decisions of this type are made? Or just nattering in clubhouses and/or on RM? 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote seagoon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 2 hours 39 minutes ago at 21:01
Don't know  about whether Se7en is a wind-up merchant, but do know that he's a prat LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 2 hours 31 minutes ago at 21:09
I was probably just prattle on here.
Not that I can find the thread now.
So I do not know who was suggesting it.
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