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There've been various speculative stories over the years about clubs from the English system going to other leagues. Ealing, London Scottish & London Welsh to the URC, Jersey Reds to France are four of the ones I recall within past decade - don't think any of these were ever that close to being realised...
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Best bit from the BBC piece:
"promising to "introduce an innovative fan ownership model", offering supporters the opportunity to invest in the club." Deja Vue?
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Is there any example of an investor getting a return in Rugby Union
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Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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Raider999
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Only a negative one. |
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JZSmith
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Sadly Ealing will always fall foul of the minimum ground capacity regulation which I believe is Ealing's capacity +1.
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Kimbo
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Which, of course, should be totally irrelevant.
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Here Here well said Kimbo
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Camquin
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However, the requirements for the URC are not as strict. So theoretically, a revived London Irish - should one ever come to pass - could sub-let from Ealing and play URC and European matches there, including matches against Premiership opposition. Mad isn't it. |
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Se7en
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What are the requirements for the URC, particularly around ground capacity? A quick check on Wikipedia shows that the average attendance at a URC match last season was 11,200. Over 3 times that of even a bumper sell out Championship match in England, to say nothing of an average attendance at a match between two part time sides. What should the magic number for minimum ground capacity in top level league rugby in England be? Should there even be a number? Should it be a notional one man and his dog? Many questions.
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Camquin
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Eight of the stadia are below 10k - but six of those sides have access to larger stadia in the same town. For example, Glasgow have a 7,000 capacity at Scotstoun, but also use Hamden for the match against Edinburgh. Apart from the Scarlets match, Ospreys do not seem to have got over 4,000 for a home game. The Football League, and the Premiership, have a requirement for a capacity of 5,000, but even that is not needed for the first season. |
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Se7en
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Football is and always will be a very different beast to rugby in this country, and comparisons between the two bear very little relevance for a whole host of reasons. However, if pressed to come up with a magic number, a minimum of 5,000 capacity in rugby seems fair and sensible to me. Any less does not lend itself to a professional experience/product capable of growing the game.
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Ospreys have been moving matches to a smaller ground when their match clashes with the soccer. There have been 3 or 4 games at Brewery Field Bridgend. The Zebre Parma stadium isn't big either.
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Kimbo
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As we've had 'bumper sell out' matches with in excess of 5200 recently, so that doesn't quite stack up. However, I agree with the general point.
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A quick check on Wikipedia shows that the average attendance at a URC match last season was 11,200. Over 3 times that of even a bumper sell out Championship match in England, to say nothing of an average attendance at a match between two part time sides. That URC number includes South Africa where tickets cost a few quid and there are literally tens of millions of rugby fans.
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For me the focus on an absolute number misses the point, it should be about having good facilities and atmosphere/match experience for players, spectators and tv viewers. Better to have 5,000 in a small atmospheric ground than 7,8,9,10k rattling around in a 30k football stadium.
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Rothman2
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Spot on Trailfinder. Bang on the money. |
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Rothman2
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Evidence of this. Part of a video when Roth played Bristol live on Sky in a top of the table Championship game in 2014 at Clifton Lane.
Far better than any football stadium. Edited by Rothman2 - 1 hour 42 minutes ago at 17:46 |
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