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Originally posted by tigerburnie tigerburnie wrote:

Just read some rather alarming/interesting words from a Worcester follower that if the Warriors/Wasps/London Irish fail to make it into the Prem2 they are automatically relegated and will have to start up in National league 1.


Read the article, but not convinced by the 'logic' of this bloke's argument - personally I don't see any of the 'phoenix trio' taking a place in Nat 1 this coming September... but of course the speculation will continue for as long as there isn't any confirmed news of what will happen.
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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by tigerburnie tigerburnie wrote:

Just read some rather alarming/interesting words from a Worcester follower that if the Warriors/Wasps/London Irish fail to make it into the Prem2 they are automatically relegated and will have to start up in National league 1.


Read the article, but not convinced by the 'logic' of this bloke's argument - personally I don't see any of the 'phoenix trio' taking a place in Nat 1 this coming September... but of course the speculation will continue for as long as there isn't any confirmed news of what will happen.

If they don't pay all the money they owe then starting in NL1 would be around ten levels too high.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tigerburnie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 3 hours 19 minutes ago at 14:11
Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by tigerburnie tigerburnie wrote:

Just read some rather alarming/interesting words from a Worcester follower that if the Warriors/Wasps/London Irish fail to make it into the Prem2 they are automatically relegated and will have to start up in National league 1.


Read the article, but not convinced by the 'logic' of this bloke's argument - personally I don't see any of the 'phoenix trio' taking a place in Nat 1 this coming September... but of course the speculation will continue for as long as there isn't any confirmed news of what will happen.

You are mis understanding, at the end of 24/25 season they will allow any or all of the three failed sides into the Championship, if they do not do that then they are "relegated again" so if they were to try to join the league after the 25/26 season then it would be Nat1 for season 27/28. Unless of course you a Brand too big to fail, in which case you can do what you want.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote islander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 1 hour 55 minutes ago at 15:35
Originally posted by tigerburnie tigerburnie wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by tigerburnie tigerburnie wrote:

Just read some rather alarming/interesting words from a Worcester follower that if the Warriors/Wasps/London Irish fail to make it into the Prem2 they are automatically relegated and will have to start up in National league 1.


Read the article, but not convinced by the 'logic' of this bloke's argument - personally I don't see any of the 'phoenix trio' taking a place in Nat 1 this coming September... but of course the speculation will continue for as long as there isn't any confirmed news of what will happen.

You are mis understanding, at the end of 24/25 season they will allow any or all of the three failed sides into the Championship, if they do not do that then they are "relegated again" so if they were to try to join the league after the 25/26 season then it would be Nat1 for season 27/28. Unless of course you a Brand too big to fail, in which case you can do what you want.

You're right TB - I do not understand what the Worcester administrator is saying will happen, nor your interpretation/explanation of his comments. What's happened to the 26/27 season, which you appear to have missed out?!
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It seems to have been already agreed that the Championship will be extended to 14 teams consisting of the existing teams, the Champions of National 1 and one invited club? As I understand it only one club seems to have any chance & it and it rhymes with duster.

To me it seems bizarre trying to re organise in this way as it was set up by the people who have presided over a failing system for years. 
Weren’t there moves afoot to try to offset the no confidence vote with a suggesting of handing over the community game to the clubs?? The main bugbear here would be that National 1 is not a community league. It services the community with lots of community initiatives, but essentially is a semi pro league, with a good number of clubs wanting to get to the Championship. There isn’t any chance they might want to regionalise National 1 is there?

Lots of questions. But it does seem to me that as of now the only major issue that needs immediate attention is the Championship, which needs to move to 14 or may be even 16 clubs to give those teams a meaningful season without the nonsense side shows of Premiership cup which the Championship clubs have already declined for next season. The Championship clubs deserve a better structure and that must be next season. All this nonsense about the Championship lacking ambition is ridiculous. They have got there by their efforts on the field and that is integral to a league structure.

The Prem is a mess and time is needed to address that.

The Championship should be made up with the existing clubs and the top 2 or 4 from National 1 (they did four in 1995/96). The idea of introducing another club, which has already lost its place for financial reasons is beyond crazy and an insult to the integrity of both the Championship and National 1.

Beyond that the real problem is the Premiership and the hierarchy of the game, and in my opinion, a totally new one, as  the current ones in place to me are part of the problem.
 It needs a new broom to work out how it is that most clubs at the top are losing money yet their proposal seems to be offering a re organisation of the leagues below, when they should be looking at funding the Championship better in order that they may make a better fist of promotion opportunities, and by financing deals to develop the grounds of those clubs to meet criteria, rather than insist the clubs finance it all themselves without, as is at present, any guarantee that their application would be successful.

Protectionism must stop, and please give up this stupid idea for having criteria for promotion to the Championship. The main issues are at the top of the game and that is what must be sorted first. 
It seems they are just messing around to maintain the old status quo with self preservation being the main aim.


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