Wasps/Worcester

titans.chris wrote: Looks like Richmond are a shoe in for promotion to tier 2 now. Roth just getting a bit tired towards the end of this season, few to many injuries in key positions but it isn't over until the lady sings so still lots to play for.

JZSmith wrote: The disreputable Holland says: "Had we opted to restart at the bottom of the rugby pyramid, as others have before us, the obligation to settle rugby creditors would have been removed. "After careful consideration we chose to make the application to the new league under the name Worcester Warriors, a club founded in 1871, to preserve its history and legacy. "As a result, even though we applied as a new non-league entrant, we are required to settle rugby creditors as defined by the RFU Regulation 5. We acknowledge and fully own this process and the responsibility that comes with it. "We have taken full responsibility for addressing these inherited obligations." So he talks about taking responsibility, paying rugby creditors and preserving the club's history and legacy but of course ignores the obligations the club (whose history and legacy he wants to continue) has to pay back all the other poor suckers who were left out of pocket? Of course these are only moral obligations and as we know morality is something that has long been missing in English professional rugby. I hope his club with their proud legacy of defaulting on their debts disappear into oblivion before history inevitably repeats itself.

These new guys really have no idea do they! 

I thought I'd have been more angry about this than I am. It's our last game of the season on Saturday, a season which has so far produced 20 wins and 22 bonus points from 21 games and 991 points scored - all club records, and yet we only won promotion in the penultimate round because Jersey have been at our heels for the whole season. We've won five promotions in seven years, and the atmosphere around the club is better than it's been in as long as I can remember. Part of me is happy to take the moral high ground, and say we're rebuilding properly, from the bottom up (in every sense). I just feel that it's a kick in the plums for the Championship and those great clubs with whom we've enjoyed so many battles over the years, and in many ways I feel we're better off out of it now. Sad, really, but there you go...

Camquin wrote: The proof of the pudding will be the number of Worcester fans that turn up at their first away game. If they bring 1,000 fans who each eat a hog roast, or a cow pie, and drink a couple of beers, then many club treasurers will forgive a lot of sins.

Mark W-J wrote: I thought I'd have been more angry about this than I am. It's our last game of the season on Saturday, a season which has so far produced 20 wins and 22 bonus points from 21 games and 991 points scored - all club records, and yet we only won promotion in the penultimate round because Jersey have been at our heels for the whole season. We've won five promotions in seven years, and the atmosphere around the club is better than it's been in as long as I can remember. Part of me is happy to take the moral high ground, and say we're rebuilding properly, from the bottom up (in every sense). I just feel that it's a kick in the plums for the Championship and those great clubs with whom we've enjoyed so many battles over the years, and in many ways I feel we're better off out of it now. Sad, really, but there you go...

Se7en wrote: islander wrote: Se7en wrote: I'm sure this will not be popular on the forum, but is it fair to say... /*snip*/ All just my opinion of course. "To be fair", you could top & tail all your posts with this wording... Very constructive of you with regards to the topic at hand, thanks.  No doubt a sense of envy on your part at the fact that one of the 4 clubs that went bust has found a way back and revived itself, unlike Jersey Reds and the huge amount (circa £1m) of tax payers money that they willingly spent before crumbling. But again, just my opinion of course.

islander wrote: Se7en wrote: islander wrote: Se7en wrote: I'm sure this will not be popular on the forum, but is it fair to say... /*snip*/ All just my opinion of course. "To be fair", you could top & tail all your posts with this wording... Very constructive of you with regards to the topic at hand, thanks.  No doubt a sense of envy on your part at the fact that one of the 4 clubs that went bust has found a way back and revived itself, unlike Jersey Reds and the huge amount (circa £1m) of tax payers money that they willingly spent before crumbling. But again, just my opinion of course. Actually there's zero envy from my side; with the benefit of 18 months' hindsight, and Jersey RFC in a good place after successive promotions and now a 2nd-placed finish, I tend to agree with Mark W-J's observation above about his own club, London Welsh, that "in many ways I feel we're better off out of it now".

Edited by Se7en - 1 hour 29 minutes ago at 13:24