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Steve@Mose ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3038 |
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IPL-style Premiership revamp suggested by Bath owner
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rugbychris ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() Joined: 02 May 2019 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 204 |
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Bore off. So many disillusioned owners who seem to have done no due diligence before sinking money into loss making clubs. Seems they have been sold a vision that rugby is the next all conquering sport. It's a minor game with very limited audience outside of the 6 Nations.
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islander ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 2010 Location: jersey Status: Offline Points: 7868 |
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Nothing should surprise one, or cause mouthfuls of tea/beer to be spat out, when it comes to Prem/RFU rugby politics, but if Craig was able to make his 'self-interest' denial with a straight-face, that is truly astonishing...
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Camquin ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 11971 |
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Cricket is the number one sport in India - perhaps the largest sports market in the world. Tata pay $58 million per year for the sponsorship rights. Chennai Super Kings alone made $13M in profit. It is simply on a different scale to rugby - a sport where few sides can attract 10,000 spectators to a match. |
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Sweeney Delenda Est
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Rabbie Burns ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3412 |
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Well no relegation for the past 5 years (?) hasn’t made improvements. The premiership is a busted flush and totally boring and England seem to have taken a backward step despite huge payouts from the RFU.
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So many Christians not enough Lions
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donnyladinsheffield ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Location: er...Sheffield? Status: Offline Points: 1145 |
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I have not noticed that relegation has prevented investment in the round ball game. It is not relegation that prebmvents investment, it is that with or without relegation this is not a game that will attract investment (if we use investment as someone putting money in on the basis of making a financial return)
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He's alright and he don't care; He's got thermal underwear
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Neasham ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 09 May 2014 Location: County Durham Status: Offline Points: 474 |
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Squads too big and pay too high commensurate with gate and tv revenue.
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Nat1 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 31 Dec 2023 Location: Not given Status: Offline Points: 356 |
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Completely agree with you. Rugby should accept that it is simply a different kettle of fish when it comes to a professional capacity. There is nothing wrong with that, but it's better to come to terms with it and operate at (dare I say it) a sustainable and enjoyable level where the relatively small numbers of fans still get something out of it, and at a reasonable price. I would look to English County Cricket and introduce two fully professional leagues/divisions with approx 8 teams in each. The majority of current Prem teams in Div 1, with perhaps Chiefs and Falcons in Div 2 along with Ealing, Cov, Pirates, Donny, Worcester and (if they could manage it/wanted to be fully pro again) Bedford. There would be promotion/relegation between the two leagues and also some sort cup comp between the two. Ringfence those two leagues/divisions whatever you want to call them and that is professional rugby in England. As far as I can see, no other current Champ club would be able to/want to become fully pro so they would mix in with National 1 clubs to be the pinnacle of semi pro/amateur rugby in England. In essence, from then on professional and amateur rugby is seperated for good and the RFU could have a professional and amateur wing to it. A bunch of ramblings and brainstorming which would probably not work, but food for thought. What do others think?
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gerg_861 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jun 2017 Location: Ealing Status: Offline Points: 2923 |
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I have come to the conclusion that Ealing is playing a waiting game. Eventually, other clubs will go bust, and Ealing will be there waiting. With a sports ground that brings in a steady revenue stream, year on year upgrades continue coming in a sustainable fashion.
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Robb ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jan 2017 Location: South East Status: Offline Points: 1672 |
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Well they've already got the trial franchise in the Championship, why does it not surprise me that the big boys now want it at the top?
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Halliford ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Feb 2010 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4308 |
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The IPL is an additional tournament, not the main event for top players. Cricketers are also able to play many more matches than rugby players because the physical demands are lower.
Hang on, why am I making sporting points when Craig's only point is to protect his investment and ensure that Bath never drop to the Championship? No sel0-interest there, is there?
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Mark W-J ![]() Coaching staff ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 May 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3748 |
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The thing that's occurred to me while reading all this is that we all believe promotion and relegation between the Championship and Premiership should be sacrosanct, but only one club's supporters actually want their team to win promotion to the basket case that is the Premiership.
(I may be doing a disservice to fans of other clubs, but I suspect only a miniscule number)
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ParkBench ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Oct 2013 Location: Richmond Status: Offline Points: 158 |
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I am coming round to your thinking. I find it incredible that Ealing ply the money in every year knowing the cartel is against them bewildering. The RFU / Premiership willingly accepted their women to bolster the Women’s game. The only reason their student side haven’t ascended to the top flight is down to good old honest rugby reasons - they haven’t won their playoff matches. It has been said by wiser heads on this forum than me but rugby is a busted flush as an elite professional sport in this country. The Premier League accommodated Bournemouth with their tiny stadium when they first made it to the Promised Land. If Ealing were allowed to take the slot they have earnt I fail to see how a packed Vallis Way would diminish the league when so many other stadiums are broadcast with hordes of empty seats. As a Rosslyn Park supporter I get to see clubs with far superior home grounds and clubhouses. I would be more than a bit embarrassed if we got together with the other clubs in Nat1 to ensure that the only clubs allowed to come up had vastly superior grounds to us.
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