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If memory serves 3/4 selected last year for the squad our prop Will Dennis got a bad knee injury against lancs and missed most of season, 

It was a bad one and probably put a few off, also last 3/4 games squad has been down to bare bones and can imagine lads are spent, few surgeries required and the coaching staff will be taking boots as opposed to poaching apparently elsewhere 😂, 

Guessing most clubs will have folk looking at players rather than signing them blind ? Shows due diligence and an element of professionalism, maybe that's the difference in 1st and 4/5? again bitterness creeping in that if it's the club I think it is one player has swapped clubs in the last few years ......time to get over it I would say, 

Enjoy the season end some big old tussles down bottom end and shows what a good tight Nat one north actually is, a credit to all teams involved 
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And it is based on the level the 1st team plays at and covers all players, even those who regularly turn out for the 3rd XV.
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It varies depending on which Division the County competes in. It was changed a year or so ago which means that you now see less National 1- level players in particular, but also Nat 2 players as they can only play in Div 1 (or in the U20 comp). Im sure that many of them must welcome the break come May/June.

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Bill Beaumont Division 1 – a Club at Level 3 (National League 1) or below;
Bill Beaumont Divisions 2 & 3 (where applicable) – a Club at Level 5 (Regional 1) or below;

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Gill Burns Division 1 – a Club at Level 2 (Championship 1) or below;
Gill Burns Divisions 2 & 3 (where applicable) – a Club at Level 3 (Championship 2) or below;

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Originally posted by cheshire exile cheshire exile wrote:

Are county sides not now selected from Level 5 and lower? For last Saturday’s Tamar Cup the Cornwall side didn’t involve any players from Camborne or Redruth.

No, its not. Last season's county champions Kent had a lot of players from Blackheath and Canterbury. I think its level 3 and lower.
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Are county sides not now selected from Level 5 and lower? For last Saturday’s Tamar Cup the Cornwall side didn’t involve any players from Camborne or Redruth.
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That may be the case but remember there is no "dollar" on offer for playing County rugby so I suspect that may be closer to the truth. (Please don't respond with............ "in my day it was an honour to play for your County blah, blah")
Times have changed! 
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Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

An interesting point is that despite Leeds success in N2N, Leeds have no representation at all in the announced Senior Men's County Squad. Strange?

I heard that their club wouldn't let them.play.  Remember when they had Yorkshire in their name.

One of their poaching team was at our last home match.  Usually part of the coaching team, but having a role change.
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An interesting point is that despite Leeds success in N2N, Leeds have no representation at all in the announced Senior Men's County Squad. Strange?
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Great crowd at WPL last night deffo in 4 figures hope all enjoyed facilities on offer and another good competitive game, 




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Originally posted by Connor Macleod Connor Macleod wrote:

Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

Originally posted by Connor Macleod Connor Macleod wrote:

Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

And where will Leeds recruit from?
We know it won't be from the Junior and Mini section, or from the 2nd team, no it will be from local clubs who have nurtured players since they were kids. Will they come for the pleasure of spending all weekend on a bus? Of course not.

It's an insult to all those volunteers that put in so much hard work at rugby clubs.
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Think your letting your bitterness get the better of you, ... again!!!

Sometimes clubs offer better facilities or pathways, not always financial as said we are not the highest payers in the league but offer location and facilities second to none 

Prime example last season we lost Jon Okafor to Roth outstanding player and was the difference in both games last season was even man of the match in the game we won, I'm guessing he went for financial and better opportunities and good luck to him and Roth 

Players careers are short let them go where they want, I have yet to see a player especially at part time level being forced to play at a club they don't want to be at, 

Wish we had financial clout but sadly that's a way off yet, 

With all due respect, you offer 'West Parks' facilities, which you rent and which West Park remain in control of, hence your occasional need for a 16:00 kick off when West Park are at home.
And, "facilities 2nd to none" - debatable.

Facilities as in the excellent university facilities the club can offer, excellent coaching facilities links with the other University physiotherapy etc etc etc I could go on but you surely get the point by now

Knock WPL facilities if you must but not sure anyone has complained about the decent beer the food always goes down well and there's always a pot you can pee in as well ample parking,  on behalf of our poor impoverished club I can only apologise for the lack of a footman to escort you to your seat, 
We have been promised running water and electricity next year


Bad form knocking any club for facilities ...and WPL do a very good job and are excellent hosts to us, 


Apologies to all Nat one clubs expecting sable seat cushions and cashmere blankets next year, hopefully a decent game will suffice, but deffo give the quail's eggs a try at half time 👍


I didn't knock WPL's facilities. I suggested that your opinion is debatable.
As for the rest of the nonsense you post, I won't comment.
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Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

Originally posted by Connor Macleod Connor Macleod wrote:

Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

And where will Leeds recruit from?
We know it won't be from the Junior and Mini section, or from the 2nd team, no it will be from local clubs who have nurtured players since they were kids. Will they come for the pleasure of spending all weekend on a bus? Of course not.

It's an insult to all those volunteers that put in so much hard work at rugby clubs.
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Think your letting your bitterness get the better of you, ... again!!!

Sometimes clubs offer better facilities or pathways, not always financial as said we are not the highest payers in the league but offer location and facilities second to none 

Prime example last season we lost Jon Okafor to Roth outstanding player and was the difference in both games last season was even man of the match in the game we won, I'm guessing he went for financial and better opportunities and good luck to him and Roth 

Players careers are short let them go where they want, I have yet to see a player especially at part time level being forced to play at a club they don't want to be at, 

Wish we had financial clout but sadly that's a way off yet, 

With all due respect, you offer 'West Parks' facilities, which you rent and which West Park remain in control of, hence your occasional need for a 16:00 kick off when West Park are at home.
And, "facilities 2nd to none" - debatable.

Facilities as in the excellent university facilities the club can offer, excellent coaching facilities links with the other University physiotherapy etc etc etc I could go on but you surely get the point by now

Knock WPL facilities if you must but not sure anyone has complained about the decent beer the food always goes down well and there's always a pot you can pee in as well ample parking,  on behalf of our poor impoverished club I can only apologise for the lack of a footman to escort you to your seat, 
We have been promised running water and electricity next year


Bad form knocking any club for facilities ...and WPL do a very good job and are excellent hosts to us, 


Apologies to all Nat one clubs expecting sable seat cushions and cashmere blankets next year, hopefully a decent game will suffice, but deffo give the quail's eggs a try at half time 👍
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WOW Good evening a proper debate at last!!Wink  

QUOTE=RumoursAreTrueRight?][QUOTE=backrowb]My apologies to the Opinion Police. I sincerely apologise for having one.

Inclusively? Did you not read that we are effectively a club that's only been in place a couple of years? The people who put their money into the club now are building for the future. Watch this space.
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Alas RATR the very point you make is the very point backrowb is making back at you. 

Leeds in many of its variants is not a club as such, it was one of those imposed misguided and pushed  upon rugby in the late eighties to amalgamate clubs of similar aspirations (sic) into "CITY" clubs  to support the new league structure.  Another failed RFU initiative.  None of them worked. 

Except Leeds and its many variations/conceptions/re-incarnations were aggressively supported  to the detriment and over clubs who had the history, Club presence/playing infrastructure/ ambition/  to be a beacon of rugby. All within the county .

Sadly none of those aspirations of Leeds as a UBER club have ever been met. Nothing against Leeds and its many chances'  I'm Still amazed on your demotion and interpretation of it. You got off very lightly  Well done on your  promotion this season.  

Question: Was it a London Rule only: Professionalism miss-management means  level 8 for  Richmond/London Scottish/London Welsh/Jersey/Barking  

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It was all pretty shameful
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Originally posted by RumoursAreTrueRight? RumoursAreTrueRight? wrote:


Inclusively? Did you not read that we are effectively a club that's only been in place a couple of years? The people who put their money into the club now are building for the future. Watch this space.

As for being happy if you didn't have to visit us, or Hull come to that, it's really simple - don't.
1. It's not a club, it's a team
2. If you've only been a club for a couple of years then how come you started in level 3?
3. I follow a team home and away through thick and thin, when at the matches I contribute to my club
4. It also means I've visited a huge variety of clubs and thus can form an opinion. You may not agree with my opinions, but you're more than welcome to disagree vociferously.
5. Anyone else enjoy a visit to souless places, some of which I've mentioned?

 


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Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

My apologies to the Opinion Police. I sincerely apologise for having one.

With regards to the claim that all creditors had been paid, was it not that the creditors agreed to 15p in the £ as part of a CVA?  Somewhere, a lot of people lost a lot of money.   Where do Leeds get there money from? It can't be from clubhouse revenue, admission fees or membership fees?  Where is the sustainability? where is the development of the sport, where is the inclusivity?

I'm not bitter, I just have no time for what I don't consider "proper" rugby clubs.   I will be a happy lad if I don't have to visit Leeds Tykes at West Park Leeds RUFC or Hull RUFC.   I don't care what anyone says, visiting paces like that are just not the same.  My loathing of visiting Hartpury and Luffbra Stooodents is even worse. It is just a very poor experience; incomparable to a visit to Tynedale, Ionians, Sheffield, Fylde, Chester, Otley, Preston etc etc

It's always telling when someone starts a paragraph claiming that they aren't this, that or the other, but then go on to demonstrate that that is exactly what they are in the following lines. 

Why visit places that you loathe, and then have a rant about it on a forum? I presume no one forced you to visit Hartpury or Loughborough? Life's too short. Madness.
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Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

My apologies to the Opinion Police. I sincerely apologise for having one.

With regards to the claim that all creditors had been paid, was it not that the creditors agreed to 15p in the £ as part of a CVA?  Somewhere, a lot of people lost a lot of money.   Where do Leeds get there money from? It can't be from clubhouse revenue, admission fees or membership fees?  Where is the sustainability? where is the development of the sport, where is the inclusivity?

I'm not bitter, I just have no time for what I don't consider "proper" rugby clubs.   I will be a happy lad if I don't have to visit Leeds Tykes at West Park Leeds RUFC or Hull RUFC.   

Inclusively? Did you not read that we are effectively a club that's only been in place a couple of years? The people who put their money into the club now are building for the future. Watch this space.

As for being happy if you didn't have to visit us, or Hull come to that, it's really simple - don't.


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My apologies to the Opinion Police. I sincerely apologise for having one.

With regards to the claim that all creditors had been paid, was it not that the creditors agreed to 15p in the £ as part of a CVA?  Somewhere, a lot of people lost a lot of money.   Where do Leeds get there money from? It can't be from clubhouse revenue, admission fees or membership fees?  Where is the sustainability? where is the development of the sport, where is the inclusivity?

I'm not bitter, I just have no time for what I don't consider "proper" rugby clubs.   I will be a happy lad if I don't have to visit Leeds Tykes at West Park Leeds RUFC or Hull RUFC.   I don't care what anyone says, visiting paces like that are just not the same.  My loathing of visiting Hartpury and Luffbra Stooodents is even worse. It is just a very poor experience; incomparable to a visit to Tynedale, Ionians, Sheffield, Fylde, Chester, Otley, Preston etc etc
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Originally posted by Connor Macleod Connor Macleod wrote:

Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

And where will Leeds recruit from?
We know it won't be from the Junior and Mini section, or from the 2nd team, no it will be from local clubs who have nurtured players since they were kids. Will they come for the pleasure of spending all weekend on a bus? Of course not.

It's an insult to all those volunteers that put in so much hard work at rugby clubs.
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Think your letting your bitterness get the better of you, ... again!!!

Sometimes clubs offer better facilities or pathways, not always financial as said we are not the highest payers in the league but offer location and facilities second to none 

Prime example last season we lost Jon Okafor to Roth outstanding player and was the difference in both games last season was even man of the match in the game we won, I'm guessing he went for financial and better opportunities and good luck to him and Roth 

Players careers are short let them go where they want, I have yet to see a player especially at part time level being forced to play at a club they don't want to be at, 

Wish we had financial clout but sadly that's a way off yet, 

With all due respect, you offer 'West Parks' facilities, which you rent and which West Park remain in control of, hence your occasional need for a 16:00 kick off when West Park are at home.
And, "facilities 2nd to none" - debatable.
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Congratulations to Leeds Tykes. Great to have somewhere new to visit.
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Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

And where will Leeds recruit from?
We know it won't be from the Junior and Mini section, or from the 2nd team, no it will be from local clubs who have nurtured players since they were kids. Will they come for the pleasure of spending all weekend on a bus? Of course not.

It's an insult to all those volunteers that put in so much hard work at rugby clubs.

Leeds wil

Another yawn post I am afraid! There are several clubs throughout the leagues that will be like that, but never mind.

I think more to the point, it would suggest that you are saying that players shouldn't progress through the leagues if the opportunity arises to play at a higher level - what a shame that we wouldn't have seen Danny Care in an England shirt as he would still be playing at West Park. It has gone on for years this, a player playing in the Yorkshire leagues gets approached from a team in the Northern Leagues and then gets approached by a team in the national leagues - why wouldn't you wish them all the best in the world to play at a higher level and if it comes with added financial compensation then so be it. As mentioned in my previous post, I suspect if money is a players sole motivation then they will not be seen in a Leeds Tykes kit - yes it may mean they are more willing to spend a lot more time on the coach on a weekend, but some may see it as progression
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