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    Posted: 01 Jun 2021 at 07:29
Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

If they used the same format as the Championship in 2019/20 (& all leagues below), Sarries would be ranked on their average match points per game thus far of 4.44, leaving them behind ET who have registered 4.5. There are various options for us to speculate about...

Just to be pedantic for the fun of it - last season it was calculated as average points in home matches for outstanding home fixtures, and average points in away matches for outstanding away fixtures, so Sarries would be awarded five points.
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Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

For what it is worth the history books will show EALING TRAILFINDERS top of the Championship ( subject to the two legged play off )
Worth absolutely nothing mate whatever the table shows is totally irrelevant but I still hope Ealing make a real contest of the play offs.
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A pretty weird decision, I thought a default 20-0 would have been a little harsh on Sarries! Tbh I hope that Ealing decide to have the first leg at home anyway. 

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For what it is worth the history books will show EALING TRAILFINDERS top of the Championship ( subject to the two legged play off )
Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

A 0-0 draw doesn't affect the integrity of the competition?

If the RFU had any integrity before, it's certainly lost it now.

Utter joke.

I'm not saying I agree with the verdict, but the meaning of what I've highlighted in bold is clear, isn't it? Whatever the 'pools panel' result & whether Sarries get 0 points (or 2 or 4 or 5 or 100) they and ET are the top 2 and will contest the PO.
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A 0-0 draw doesn't affect the integrity of the competition?

If the RFU had any integrity before, it's certainly lost it now.

Utter joke.
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For immediate release: Monday 31 May, 2021
Issued on behalf of The Greene King IPA Championship

Greene King IPA Championship Disputes Committee Decision: Saracens v Hartpury University

The Greene King IPA Championship Disputes Committee made the interim decision to postpone the round 11 fixture between Saracens and Hartpury University RFC [originally scheduled to be played on Saturday 29 May], after a small number of Hartpury University players tested positive for COVID-19 and the need to isolate several more players in accordance with the contact tracing protocols.

Further to the interim decision, a Disputes Committee meeting was held to determine next steps.

The Committee considered the specific facts of this particular case, relevant regulations and supporting documentation and concluded that the match should be cancelled. The Committee concluded that the match should be considered as a 0 – 0 draw, with no league points awarded to either team.

In light of the facts, the Committee considered Hartpury University RFC were not at fault for the cancellation of the fixture and noted that the only reserve weekend available for the Championship is 5th – 6th June. Hartpury University RFC confirmed they were not able to play that weekend as players still isolating under COVID-19 protocols and some injuries mean the club is unable to field a squad. While the positions of the clubs in the league table was not considered to be a relevant factor in determining the outcome of the cancellation, it was noted that the effect of the decision would not undermine the integrity of the competition.

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Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Another quick Pirates try
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Cracking end to the match and the season for a neutral.
Says it all really. Winning matches by a single point is hopefully habit forming. I was at the last one in Penzance:

Brilliant entertainment by both teams - safe journey home to Kernow lads.

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Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Originally posted by Dotcom Dotcom wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

The organising committee will decide, apparently, so I expect we'll hear from them soon...


Do we know who the organising committee is and whether there is more than one of them ??

If they use the same points system as in the Premiership, then cancellation would see Sarries awarded 4 points on a 0-0 tally. Thus Ealing would finish first with 45, and win the points differential by 1 as well. On the one hand, it isn't how I'd want to win. On the other...C'mon, they have 5 British and Irish Lions, and probably a bigger budget than the rest of the league put together!

If they used the same format as the Championship in 2019/20 (& all leagues below), Sarries would be ranked on their average match points per game thus far of 4.44, leaving them behind ET who have registered 4.5. There are various options for us to speculate about...
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Originally posted by Dotcom Dotcom wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

The organising committee will decide, apparently, so I expect we'll hear from them soon...


Do we know who the organising committee is and whether there is more than one of them ??

If they use the same points system as in the Premiership, then cancellation would see Sarries awarded 4 points on a 0-0 tally. Thus Ealing would finish first with 45, and win the points differential by 1 as well. On the one hand, it isn't how I'd want to win. On the other...C'mon, they have 5 British and Irish Lions, and probably a bigger budget than the rest of the league put together!
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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

The organising committee will decide, apparently, so I expect we'll hear from them soon...


Do we know who the organising committee is and whether there is more than one of them ??
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

And do we think it would matter if Ealing had the choice?
Even if Saracens lose players to the Lions and International tours, I think they will win both legs.

Find it highly improbable that Saracens might allow contracted players to go on a pre-Lions training camp (albeit in a most desirable location Wink) rather than play for their employer in a brace of games which will determine whether they return to the top flight after a season 'below stairs'...

As to home advantage, I've seen a suggestion that, regardless of who finishes top, Ealing might want to play the first leg at home as they would potentially sell more tickets when it starts 0-0, whereas Sarries may prefer the option of 'finishing the job' at home.

I don't believe there is anything in the Champ regs about 20-0 or 28-0 or 4pts to 2pts etc award for Covid abandonment & even the theoretical possibility of the Hartpury game being staged next w/e, although that seems pretty unlikely. The organising committee will decide, apparently, so I expect we'll hear from them soon...

If Hartpury were to lose by more than 43pts they would slip below Nottingham in the table & finish 10th.
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

And do we think it would matter if Ealing had the choice?
Even if Saracens lose players to the Lions and International tours, I think they will win both legs.
Indeed they might. However, we’ve seen from pre-season and early season that they are not quite the same formidable force without their key internationals.
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And do we think it would matter if Ealing had the choice?
Even if Saracens lose players to the Lions and International tours, I think they will win both legs.
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Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Another quick Pirates try
32-31
There is time fr the restart



Cracking end to the match and the season for a neutral.
Says it all really. Winning matches by a single point is hopefully habit forming. I was at the last one in Penzance:

Brilliant entertainment by both teams - safe journey home to Kernow lads.


Agree with everything you said CC. Great entertainment yesterday. Both sides gave it their all and a 1 point margin on the pitch is probably a fair reflection of the game.
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Team finishing top gets to choose home/away order for play-offs.
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Does not really matter Saracens will be first or second whatever they decide.
Does it matter who is 9th or 10th.

It matters somewhat as it determines who gets the 2nd leg at home. Sarries will be given a 20-0 win which will see them finish top.
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Does not really matter Saracens will be first or second whatever they decide.
Does it matter who is 9th or 10th.
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Originally posted by oneagainstthehead oneagainstthehead wrote:

Does anyone know what’s happening with the Saracens v Hartpury match? Is it going to be played or will Saracens be given a 28-0 bonus point win?

A 28-0 would be a proper let-off for Hartpury!
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Does anyone know what’s happening with the Saracens v Hartpury match? Is it going to be played or will Saracens be given a 28-0 bonus point win?
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