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    Posted: 04 May 2021 at 20:13
Originally posted by Bedfordian Bedfordian wrote:

Re: the article, whilst i see that people do not like the tone, I don't see too many disagreeing

I see it as being slightly one eyed, and smacks of sour grapes if that helps. But my highlighting it was that official websites of clubs ordinarily remain above calling the referee out to that extent. 

I do feel that Bedford played exceptionally well in the first half of the game and deserved the lead at half time, however it was a different story in the second half where the Knights closed it out. Did sir miss things, undoubtably, but not just one way as the Blues website seemed to claim - hence my sour grapes reference. 

What you can take from that game, is you have a very good squad, if it is kept together next season, you will do well with or without sir’s help.
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I totally agree with Brizzer, especially as we now have video evidence which can be used at a later date to right any obvious missed wrongs.

The referee at last Saturday's game between Ampthill and Jersey was Sara Cox and she was very good. No yellow cards. No red cards. And she kept order.

I was particularly impressed with one of her decisions when she disallowed what appeared to be a perfectly good try by Jersey right under the posts.😎😎
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brizzer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 May 2021 at 17:03
A lot of people (myself included) will talk of the injustices of the officiating, either on this type of forum or in the pubs and bars following the game. That is part of sport. If we aren't watching or playing it, we are talking about it.
Clubs, however, really should take a higher moral stance and respecting the officials is of paramount importance. The refs and TA's do sometimes have off days too (they are only human) and if a club has a genuine grievance, then there are channels for them to be noted and acted upon where necessary. I didn't see the game, but if the officials really did miss a tip tackle, then the guilty player should be cited.
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Re: the article, whilst i see that people do not like the tone, I don't see too many disagreeing
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Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by Rob C Rob C wrote:

I think he probably means dubious rather than 'sceptical' but it's not particularly scathing about the ref?  I've seen worse on here...
Critical comments about match officials on a rugby forum isn't great but official club stuff should imo set a much higher standard and should always respect the position of the match officials. 

Exactly that, which is why I was surprised but this is no Andy Goode attempt to have something done - just surprised to see it on an official club site.

Anyhow, on to the next games, just wishing Scottish were playing not relishing the thought of the bye…..

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Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by Rob C Rob C wrote:

I think he probably means dubious rather than 'sceptical' but it's not particularly scathing about the ref?  I've seen worse on here...
Critical comments about match officials on a rugby forum isn't great but official club stuff should imo set a much higher standard and should always respect the position of the match officials. 

Exactly that, which is why I was surprised but this is no Andy Goode attempt to have something done - just surprised to see it on an official club site.

Anyhow, on to the next games, just wishing Scottish were playing not relishing the thought of the bye…..
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote corporalcarrot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2021 at 19:36
Originally posted by Rob C Rob C wrote:

I think he probably means dubious rather than 'sceptical' but it's not particularly scathing about the ref?  I've seen worse on here...
Critical comments about match officials on a rugby forum isn't great but official club stuff should imo set a much higher standard and should always respect the position of the match officials. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cheshire exile Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2021 at 19:21
Is it possibly somewhat tongue in cheek? “Up there with the biggest injustices in sports history” is perhaps just a bit hyperbolic? 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rob C Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2021 at 19:21
I think he probably means dubious rather than 'sceptical' but it's not particularly scathing about the ref?  I've seen worse on here...
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Yes - the report (extract below) is an interesting read...

Some of the decisions that were starting to go against Bedford were sceptical at best and inhibited any sort of momentum swift in the game as everything was going the way of the hosts. Newman was adjudged to have gone high in the tackle and received a yellow card and Donny immediately took advantage as Olver slotted the penalty. 

That was the first time in the game they led proceedings but again Bedford came back off the canvas. They immediately went back on the front foot but were thwarted by the missing of a tip tackle on Jack Hughes which forced the subsequent knock-on. 

The tide had well and truly turned and you felt almost powerless to stop the pressure continue to build and you could feel the soul being sucked from the game. 

This could quite easily be up there with the biggest injustices in sports history for Bedford to not take anything from the game but that's exactly how it came to pass as McBryde got his second late on and Olver converted it to take the game away. 



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote isleonian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2021 at 18:57
The Bedford report on its club website was surely written mostly to bolster their own (and Northampton's) players?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote isleonian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2021 at 18:51
What's the problem, did someone perceive the referee as being biased in favour of Bedford Blues?

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Originally posted by Bluesman11 Bluesman11 wrote:

Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

Bedford match report gets a tad close to the knuckle on calling out sir....

Can’t recall as spicey an article re: sir in quite some time

Have to say Bedford have a lot to take from that game, unfortunately no points but really did go for it.

Yes think the match report goes a bit too far imo and was surprised when I read it. Used to be a lot more impartial! 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bluesman11 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2021 at 11:59
Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

Bedford match report gets a tad close to the knuckle on calling out sir....

Can’t recall as spicey an article re: sir in quite some time

Have to say Bedford have a lot to take from that game, unfortunately no points but really did go for it.

Yes think the match report goes a bit too far imo and was surprised when I read it. Used to be a lot more impartial! 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote barbelhunter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2021 at 08:56
Might be wrong but I think sir played in our colts side maybe 20 years back.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote castleparknight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2021 at 20:53
Bedford match report gets a tad close to the knuckle on calling out sir....

Can’t recall as spicey an article re: sir in quite some time

Have to say Bedford have a lot to take from that game, unfortunately no points but really did go for it.
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Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote islander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2021 at 18:32
Of the remaining games involving the top 3 taking on lower-ranked sides, I guess Blues v ET & Cov v Sarries offer the highest (albeit still slim) chance of an upset...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2021 at 18:26
Unfortunately unless a ref starts handing out red cards like sweeties -  I cannot see any side beating the full Saracens side which would trouble the best in Europe. Money does indeed talk.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote castleparknight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2021 at 17:44
Originally posted by Bluesman11 Bluesman11 wrote:

Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

To be honest I felt bad that Bedford never got at least a point. The first 20 minutes they were on fire. And Donny was far from ordinary (poor is how I would rate them). The second 20 we came back in but were probably even. The second half after Bodes kicked the hairdryer was a different thing.

Two yellow cards - Bedford really capitalised to score 12 points, we only 3 so we’ll done Bedford on that front.

The ability to win ugly sometimes is the difference. Still happy to know that if we get 5 points against Ealing and then Nottingham that Sarries stays another year




Sadly not the case as Sarries have a game in hand. Doncaster are likely going to need to beat Ealing 5-0 to pip Ealing to a playoff spot given Ealings points difference and bonus points collected. Sarries don’t have any banana skins left so should comfortably make playoffs even if Ealing nick the league on points difference.
True enough forgot the bye - it would put Donny against Sarries

Come on the Ampts do the deed for the Championship 


Edited by castleparknight - 02 May 2021 at 18:48
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