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Well spotted Camquin! I do recall Forest Green Rovers having to do a lot of work on their ecologically sound stadium as they moved up into the Football League. Having read the criteria my Club meets most of the Grade A requirements except the one that says the location of the ground must be linked to the name of the Club. We are Esher but based in Hersham!!
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Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:




Well spotted Camquin! I do recall Forest Green Rovers having to do a lot of work on their ecologically sound stadium as they moved up into the Football League. Having read the criteria my Club meets most of the Grade A requirements except the one that says the location of the ground must be linked to the name of the Club. We are Esher but based in Hersham!!


At a lower level in football as you move up a lot of the additional requirements are for press facilities and the like rather than spectator comfort. Obviously when moving to the higher echelons you have to be all-seater to comply with regulations.
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Actually I think you fail grade H, as the ground is not fully enclosed by a 1.83m fence - something common to most rugby clubs.
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Actually I think you fail grade H, as the ground is not fully enclosed by a 1.83m fence - something common to most rugby clubs.

I did say most! The fence only covers 3 sides!!
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Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:



Well spotted Camquin! I do recall Forest Green Rovers having to do a lot of work on their ecologically sound stadium as they moved up into the Football League. Having read the criteria my Club meets most of the Grade A requirements except the one that says the location of the ground must be linked to the name of the Club. We are Esher but based in Hersham!!

Actually Halliford the club is based in Walton-on-Thames. The Hersham boundary ends a few metres before the club as you head up from Hersham station.
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Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:



Well spotted Camquin! I do recall Forest Green Rovers having to do a lot of work on their ecologically sound stadium as they moved up into the Football League. Having read the criteria my Club meets most of the Grade A requirements except the one that says the location of the ground must be linked to the name of the Club. We are Esher but based in Hersham!!

Actually Halliford the club is based in Walton-on-Thames. The Hersham boundary ends a few metres before the club as you head up from Hersham station.

Our postal address is Hersham, not Walton-on-Thames so perhaps someone moved the boundary. The postcode is KT - Kingston! Anyone bored yet?!
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Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:



Well spotted Camquin! I do recall Forest Green Rovers having to do a lot of work on their ecologically sound stadium as they moved up into the Football League. Having read the criteria my Club meets most of the Grade A requirements except the one that says the location of the ground must be linked to the name of the Club. We are Esher but based in Hersham!!

Actually Halliford the club is based in Walton-on-Thames. The Hersham boundary ends a few metres before the club as you head up from Hersham station.

Our postal address is Hersham, not Walton-on-Thames so perhaps someone moved the boundary. The postcode is KT - Kingston! Anyone bored yet?!

I'm sorry Halliford but you are wrong. Try putting your KT12 3PF post code into this official Royal Mail site and you will find your postal address is 369 Molesey Road, Walton-on-Thames KT12 3PF. 
https://www.royalmail.com/find-a-postcode

It has always amused me that Esher know they aren't in Esher but don't seem to actually know where they are!
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Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:



Well spotted Camquin! I do recall Forest Green Rovers having to do a lot of work on their ecologically sound stadium as they moved up into the Football League. Having read the criteria my Club meets most of the Grade A requirements except the one that says the location of the ground must be linked to the name of the Club. We are Esher but based in Hersham!!

Actually Halliford the club is based in Walton-on-Thames. The Hersham boundary ends a few metres before the club as you head up from Hersham station.

Our postal address is Hersham, not Walton-on-Thames so perhaps someone moved the boundary. The postcode is KT - Kingston! Anyone bored yet?!

I'm sorry Halliford but you are wrong. Try putting your KT12 3PF post code into this official Royal Mail site and you will find your postal address is 369 Molesey Road, Walton-on-Thames KT12 3PF. 
https://www.royalmail.com/find-a-postcode

It has always amused me that Esher know they aren't in Esher but don't seem to actually know where they are!

LOL I'm just going by the letterhead and the registered office address! I live ion Shepperton which Royal Mail tells me is Middlesex - a county that hasn't existed for 30 years so you can't rely on accuracy from Royal Mail! Esher were formed in Esher but the land was cheaper in Hersham (or Walton-on-Thames)  .... or is it actually West Molesey?
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Post codes are fairly irrelevant in many cases.
A village near me, which comes under Rugby, Warks, and is within the Warwickshire boundary, has a Hinckley LE10 postcode.
Others nearby, within Leicestershire, have a Nuneaton CV postcode.
The Ordnance Survey is a far more plausible guide.
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Esher RFC is the the ward of Walton South within Elmbridge Local Authority. 
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Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

LOL
Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:



Well spotted Camquin! I do recall Forest Green Rovers having to do a lot of work on their ecologically sound stadium as they moved up into the Football League. Having read the criteria my Club meets most of the Grade A requirements except the one that says the location of the ground must be linked to the name of the Club. We are Esher but based in Hersham!!

Actually Halliford the club is based in Walton-on-Thames. The Hersham boundary ends a few metres before the club as you head up from Hersham station.

Our postal address is Hersham, not Walton-on-Thames so perhaps someone moved the boundary. The postcode is KT - Kingston! Anyone bored yet?!

I'm sorry Halliford but you are wrong. Try putting your KT12 3PF post code into this official Royal Mail site and you will find your postal address is 369 Molesey Road, Walton-on-Thames KT12 3PF. 
https://www.royalmail.com/find-a-postcode

It has always amused me that Esher know they aren't in Esher but don't seem to actually know where they are!

LOL I'm just going by the letterhead and the registered office address! I live ion Shepperton which Royal Mail tells me is Middlesex - a county that hasn't existed for 30 years so you can't rely on accuracy from Royal Mail! Esher were formed in Esher but the land was cheaper in Hersham (or Walton-on-Thames)  .... or is it actually West Molesey?
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do they? I'd swear Royal Mail stopped using counties in any postal addresses several years ago...
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Since we have digressed off-topic, a pub called the Star at Leatherhead Common used to straddle the Gtr London/Surrey boundary. The public bar was in Surrey & closed at 10.30pm on winter weekdays; locals were required to drink up and leave, but could walk round to the lounge bar and enjoy another half-hour's imbibing... Beer

Sadly the spoilsports at the boundary commission redrew the boundary 20ish years ago & removed this - to me - charming quirk...
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Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

LOL
Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:



Well spotted Camquin! I do recall Forest Green Rovers having to do a lot of work on their ecologically sound stadium as they moved up into the Football League. Having read the criteria my Club meets most of the Grade A requirements except the one that says the location of the ground must be linked to the name of the Club. We are Esher but based in Hersham!!

Actually Halliford the club is based in Walton-on-Thames. The Hersham boundary ends a few metres before the club as you head up from Hersham station.

Our postal address is Hersham, not Walton-on-Thames so perhaps someone moved the boundary. The postcode is KT - Kingston! Anyone bored yet?!

I'm sorry Halliford but you are wrong. Try putting your KT12 3PF post code into this official Royal Mail site and you will find your postal address is 369 Molesey Road, Walton-on-Thames KT12 3PF. 
https://www.royalmail.com/find-a-postcode

It has always amused me that Esher know they aren't in Esher but don't seem to actually know where they are!

LOL I'm just going by the letterhead and the registered office address! I live ion Shepperton which Royal Mail tells me is Middlesex - a county that hasn't existed for 30 years so you can't rely on accuracy from Royal Mail! Esher were formed in Esher but the land was cheaper in Hersham (or Walton-on-Thames)  .... or is it actually West Molesey?
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I agree entirely that you can't go by Royal Mail postcodes so I was surprised you first raised it (if incorrectly!) but the parish boundaries also clearly show Esher Rugby Club is not in Hersham nor West Molesey but in Walton-on-Thames!!

Whether people choose to accept that of course is entirely up to them.

And you are right, this is getting boring!
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Wherever Esher RFC is located. It seems to have found its level in National Two South, not the Championship.
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Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Post codes are fairly irrelevant in many cases.
A village near me, which comes under Rugby, Warks, and is within the Warwickshire boundary, has a Hinckley LE10 postcode.
Others nearby, within Leicestershire, have a Nuneaton CV postcode.
The Ordnance Survey is a far more plausible guide.
Postcodes exist for the purpose of helping the Royal Mail deliver the post most efficiently.  Any side benefit of using them, such as for navigational purposes, is just that, a side benefit.  B postcodes extend well to the north and south of Birmingham and SY postcodes reach Cardigan Bay, but nobody in Machynlleth speaks with a Shropshire accent.

Anyway ... Manchester RFC play nowhere near Manchester, Birmingham and Solihull RFC play on the wrong side of the M42 from both of those towns, and Chinnor RFC play in Thame.  This sort of thing isn't exactly rare.


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Originally posted by OldNick OldNick wrote:

Wherever Esher RFC is located. It seems to have found its level in National Two South, not the Championship.

We’d like to think our level is National 1. Mind you, with the reduced level of funding and thus cost, we could more easily afford the Championship. We are at National 2 because we hung on to the wrong DoR for too long.
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Originally posted by CJB1 CJB1 wrote:

Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Post codes are fairly irrelevant in many cases.
A village near me, which comes under Rugby, Warks, and is within the Warwickshire boundary, has a Hinckley LE10 postcode.
Others nearby, within Leicestershire, have a Nuneaton CV postcode.
The Ordnance Survey is a far more plausible guide.
Postcodes exist for the purpose of helping the Royal Mail deliver the post most efficiently.  Any side benefit of using them, such as for navigational purposes, is just that, a side benefit.  B postcodes extend well to the north and south of Birmingham and SY postcodes reach Cardigan Bay, but nobody in Machynlleth speaks with a Shropshire accent.

Anyway ... Manchester RFC play nowhere near Manchester, Birmingham and Solihull RFC play on the wrong side of the M42 from both of those towns, and Chinnor RFC play in Thame.  This sort of thing isn't exactly rare.

And Saracens play nowhere near the Middle East. Just thought I’d get us back to the Championship!
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Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by CJB1 CJB1 wrote:

Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Post codes are fairly irrelevant in many cases.
A village near me, which comes under Rugby, Warks, and is within the Warwickshire boundary, has a Hinckley LE10 postcode.
Others nearby, within Leicestershire, have a Nuneaton CV postcode.
The Ordnance Survey is a far more plausible guide.
Postcodes exist for the purpose of helping the Royal Mail deliver the post most efficiently.  Any side benefit of using them, such as for navigational purposes, is just that, a side benefit.  B postcodes extend well to the north and south of Birmingham and SY postcodes reach Cardigan Bay, but nobody in Machynlleth speaks with a Shropshire accent.

Anyway ... Manchester RFC play nowhere near Manchester, Birmingham and Solihull RFC play on the wrong side of the M42 from both of those towns, and Chinnor RFC play in Thame.  This sort of thing isn't exactly rare.

And Saracens play nowhere near the Middle East. Just thought I’d get us back to the Championship!

if only they did!
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