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HAVANT TONY ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 07 Oct 2018 Location: Havant Status: Offline Points: 621 |
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Oooooh You warned me😂 I suggest you read my question again
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Thunderbird ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2013 Location: East Anglia Status: Offline Points: 171 |
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I have had that. It is not very pleasant. All the hard skin came off my hands and the soles of my feet.
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HAVANT TONY ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 07 Oct 2018 Location: Havant Status: Offline Points: 621 |
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THUNDERBIRD
Not with you on that one? but you're obviously doing it wrong
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Thunderbird ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2013 Location: East Anglia Status: Offline Points: 171 |
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Lord_Kitchener ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Jan 2017 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 150 |
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Regarding both CS Stags and Tring you have to start by referring to Regulation 13.6.11 (b)
“If the Organising Committee considers that a Club has unjustifiably failed to fulfil its obligations, it shall have regard to Appendix 3 of this Regulation and may deduct League points from that Club and/or order the match to be replayed (provided it has regard to promotion and relegation issues in any relevant League, including the effect on other Clubs, and to the commitments of the Clubs concerned). In ‘Home and Away’ leagues when the first fixture is defaulted by the ‘away’ team the return fixture shall be reversed and take place at the ground of the non-offending Club. For the avoidance of doubt, lack of players or insufficient front row players with Effective Registration whether through injury, illness or because of work or other commitments shall not be deemed to be a justifiable reason for not playing or seeking a postponement of a League Match.”
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Lord_Kitchener ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Jan 2017 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 150 |
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Both Tring and CS Stags have been deducted 5 league points too.
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Lord_Kitchener ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Jan 2017 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 150 |
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Brighton 5 - 1 Havant
North Walsham 1 - 4 Hertford Sevenoaks 0 - 5 Westcombe Park Tunbridge Wells 4 - 0 Sidcup Wimbledon 5 - 0 Maidenhead Sutton & Epsom 5 - (-5) CS Stags Dorking 5 - (-5) Tring
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Kentish Man ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() Joined: 29 Aug 2018 Location: Kent Status: Offline Points: 156 |
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Hi
Does that mean that both CS and Tring will have to reverse their fixtures to still play away at Sutton and Dorking later this season rather than at home both Sutton and Dorking have taken quite a financial toll i would expect with cancelled lunches attendance etc ?
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Lord_Kitchener ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Jan 2017 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 150 |
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Correct
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Welshie ![]() First XV squad ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 Aug 2019 Location: Guildford Status: Offline Points: 46 |
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Brighton 1-5 Havant
North Walsham 5-1 Hertford Sevenoaks 0-5 Westcombe Park Tunbridge Wells 5-1 Sidcup Wimbledon 5-1 Maidenhead
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FEZ ANT PLUCKER ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Apr 2013 Location: Reigate Status: Offline Points: 1014 |
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FWIW. Would the outcome have been different if the withdrawal had been for Covid positive tests? I sympathise with Tring as Hand, Foot and Mouth is very contagious (my son had it a few seasons ago) and its very painful and debilitating. More to the point it could have spread to Wimbledon players last week. Can anyone from Tring enlighten us a bit more as to their optimism for future games. Appaarently it is contagious for 10-12 days.
Fortunately Dorking,s lunch will still go ahead as our 2,s and 3,s have home fixtures.
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Ancient Oak ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Sep 2019 Location: Sevenoaks Status: Offline Points: 195 |
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My leaving this to the 11th hour makes it rather a pointless exercise in the light of events. I would have given Dorking and Sutton and Epsom the win anyway so here are my predictions for what they are worth
Brighton 1 Havant 5 Dorking 5 Tring 0 N Walsham 1 Hertford 4 Sevenoaks 4 W Park 0 Sutton & Epsom 5 CS Stags 0 T Wells 4 Sidcup 0 Wimbledon 4 Maidenhead 1 Just for the record Oaks did score 2 quite decent tries against Hertford!
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"Heaven prosper our sport"
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SurreyRugby ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 2018 Location: - Status: Offline Points: 158 |
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I do sympathise with Tring, although it appears that other Tring teams are playing today. This season is going to be very different from all others. Covid is a challenge. Player availability is also a challenge. It seems that there is no relegation this season. Would/could Tring have fielded a weakened team and avoided a 5 point deduction if relegation had been in place? The integrity of this league is now in doubt, if teams as early as week 2 can just decide not to appear.
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Thunderpants ![]() First XV regular ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Aug 2021 Location: Chesham Status: Offline Points: 98 |
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Just for the record, there are no Tring teams playing today,the 3rds played last night,but currently have no contact with the 1s sqaud during training.
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It really was from the 22....
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Robb ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jan 2017 Location: South East Status: Offline Points: 1706 |
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It seems that under Regulation 22.5-6, it grants the LSE RFU discretion on what to do. 5. Non-Fulfilment of Matches: In the event that a match has been postponed,
cancelled or abandoned due to Covid-19 related reasons, the relevant provisions
within the applicable regulations will apply save that in addition to such provisions,
the Organising Committee/Tournament Organiser must be provided with a signed
Covid-19 Declaration and such other information, documentation and reports as the
Organising Committee/Tournament Organiser may request in order to determine if
any sanction is applicable. 6. All Covid-19 related postponements, cancellations, rearrangements, abandonments
and non-fulfilled fixtures will be referred to the relevant Organising Committee who
will have the power to determine the consequences of such including (without
limitation) whether the match should proceed, be reversed, rearranged, replayed or
cancelled. In addition, the Organising Committee will have the power, in its absolute
Effective as of 1 August 2021
discretion, to determine the further consequences of such non-fulfilment including
(without limitation) allocation of points in respect of that match, which club(s) will be
permitted to progress to the next stage of any relevant competition, the power to
award costs or apply such other sanction as the Organising Committee considers
appropriate. Due diligence would suggest that the LSE RFU would request and require evidence of a positive test to discourage any club from trying to use this as an excuse. Personally I do hope Tring appeal that deduction because clearly that regulation 13.6 was written to discourage clubs crying off because a prop had the sniffles, not for an outbreak of a known contagious disease.
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SurreyRugby ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 2018 Location: - Status: Offline Points: 158 |
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Fair enough. Hope all the boys at Tring get better soon.
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Shamrose ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Sep 2010 Location: Surrey Status: Offline Points: 942 |
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As we only have 5 games this weekend there will be no bonus for getting them all correct
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Robb ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jan 2017 Location: South East Status: Offline Points: 1706 |
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Any confirmation on the Tring situation?
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Lord_Kitchener ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Jan 2017 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 150 |
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Dorking 5 Tring -5
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Lord_Kitchener ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Jan 2017 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 150 |
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Brighton 15 - 17 Havant
Dorking HWO Tring North Walsham 14 - 17 Hertford Sevenoaks 18 - 7 Westcombe Park Sutton & Epsom HWO CS Stags 1863 Tunbridge Wells 27 - 36 Sidcup Wimbledon 29 - 7 Maidenhead
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