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A remember looking at the numbers in the original Adult Game Review - way back in 2016.
In that plan, there were cups for everyone. The support looked generous, until you factored in travel costs.

The winning team could just about afford to buy the team a beer, and twenty straws.  The runner-up was going to be out of pocket.

And yet, it would cost the RFU millions. Because a small amount of money to lots of sides soon adds up. And as soon as teams start needing overnight stays, the costs mount.

I believe the same was true in the last days of the old cup. I recall Cambridge's treasurer saying at the time that our cup run - including losing away at Old Deer Park - cost us money.


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I’ve been sent this which is apparently the latest update from RFU.
Finals still at Twickenham.

“ As far as possible, all 1st XVs who finish top of their leagues at Regional 1 and 2, Counties 1, 2 and 3 & below will qualify for their Championship, and the potential to play in the final at Twickenham. The final of the Regional 1 Championship will be played on Sunday 30th April and the other Championship Finals on Sunday 7th May.   All other Cup finals will be played on the weekend of 6th/7th May.

In the case of the matches scheduled for the weekend of 6th/7th May it is accepted that the overlap with the County Championship programme is unavoidable given the impact of postponed matches on the club league programme. National League fixtures will be managed as normal, with the intention of finishing the league season by the scheduled date. Please refer to your league secretary for further guidance.”
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Originally posted by PiffPaff PiffPaff wrote:

Nope as above, draw on Wednesday, fixtures out then I would think especially if you need to book a Bus or organise a sponsor which clearly RFU Competitions think you can do in five minutes.

I'm told there is some "Travel Funding" available for long distance trips, not sure what the criteria is and how much the magic RFU money tree will provide.

Think one or two in Regional South East maybe sweating or indeed looking forward to being drawn away at Camborne and vice versa. Likewise some clubs in South Cheshire might be less than please with a North East trip .....  and vice versa in the Counties draw. Wonder if they will "manage" the draw and try to keep distances short in the early rounds. 

As Regional 1 South East ends this Saturday, with a couple of catch ups, 18tn March, then Wednesday (15th?) is after most of the league ends.

Madness sees one match scheduled in Midlands 1, 1st April.

Could anyone make up such a mess?




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Originally posted by Neasham Neasham wrote:

I’ve been sent this which is apparently the latest update from RFU.
Finals still at Twickenham.

“ As far as possible, all 1st XVs who finish top of their leagues at Regional 1 and 2, Counties 1, 2 and 3 & below will qualify for their Championship, and the potential to play in the final at Twickenham. The final of the Regional 1 Championship will be played on Sunday 30th April and the other Championship Finals on Sunday 7th May.   All other Cup finals will be played on the weekend of 6th/7th May.

In the case of the matches scheduled for the weekend of 6th/7th May it is accepted that the overlap with the County Championship programme is unavoidable given the impact of postponed matches on the club league programme. National League fixtures will be managed as normal, with the intention of finishing the league season by the scheduled date. Please refer to your league secretary for further guidance.”


Will games be held 6th May? Coronation Day, or just 7th May?
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Originally posted by kempstonblue kempstonblue wrote:

Originally posted by PiffPaff PiffPaff wrote:

Nope as above, draw on Wednesday, fixtures out then I would think especially if you need to book a Bus or organise a sponsor which clearly RFU Competitions think you can do in five minutes.

I'm told there is some "Travel Funding" available for long distance trips, not sure what the criteria is and how much the magic RFU money tree will provide.

Think one or two in Regional South East maybe sweating or indeed looking forward to being drawn away at Camborne and vice versa. Likewise some clubs in South Cheshire might be less than please with a North East trip .....  and vice versa in the Counties draw. Wonder if they will "manage" the draw and try to keep distances short in the early rounds. 

As Regional 1 South East ends this Saturday, with a couple of catch ups, 18tn March, then Wednesday (15th?) is after most of the league ends.

Madness sees one match scheduled in Midlands 1, 1st April.

Could anyone make up such a mess?



Yep, that'll be our (Kenilworth's) rearranged fixture at home to Lichfield. Which could still affect vital league positions.
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Originally posted by kempstonblue kempstonblue wrote:

[QUOTE=PiffPaff]Nope as above, draw on Wednesday, fixtures out then I would think especially if you need to book a Bus or organise a sponsor which clearly RFU Competitions think you can do in five minutes.

I'm told there is some "Travel Funding" available for long distance trips, not sure what the criteria is and how much the magic RFU money tree will provide.

Think one or two in Regional South East maybe sweating or indeed looking forward to being drawn away at Camborne and vice versa. Likewise some clubs in South Cheshire might be less than please with a North East trip .....  and vice versa in the Counties draw. Wonder if they will "manage" the draw and try to keep distances short in the early rounds. 




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This should have been a Pizza Cake but is turning into an Eton Mess.
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Just been told the prestigious venue is......

Ealing.... and I'm not kidding.
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Given that there are four competitions (Championship, Plate, Shield & Bowl) at L5, and three each at L6-9, I make that 16 finals to take place.  In which case there will have to be a number of 'prestigious' venues, hopefully spread around the country.
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Originally posted by kempstonblue kempstonblue wrote:

Originally posted by PiffPaff PiffPaff wrote:

Nope as above, draw on Wednesday, fixtures out then I would think especially if you need to book a Bus or organise a sponsor which clearly RFU Competitions think you can do in five minutes.

I'm told there is some "Travel Funding" available for long distance trips, not sure what the criteria is and how much the magic RFU money tree will provide.

Think one or two in Regional South East maybe sweating or indeed looking forward to being drawn away at Camborne and vice versa. Likewise some clubs in South Cheshire might be less than please with a North East trip .....  and vice versa in the Counties draw. Wonder if they will "manage" the draw and try to keep distances short in the early rounds. 

As Regional 1 South East ends this Saturday, with a couple of catch ups, 18tn March, then Wednesday (15th?) is after most of the league ends.

Madness sees one match scheduled in Midlands 1, 1st April.

Could anyone make up such a mess?



And with further postponements likely this weekend there will be other games on 1st April and maybe Kenilworth having a game the following week as well!
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Originally posted by PiffPaff PiffPaff wrote:

Just been told the prestigious venue is......

Ealing.... and I'm not kidding.

You must be joking.......

The Stoop, Welford Road, even the Rec people would love to have taken. But you cannot ever call Trailfinders Sports Ground "prestigious" (and that's not a slight against Ealing)
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It's the irony of the governing body calling it 'prestigious' while Premier Rugby basically claim It's not fit for purpose.
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It gets worse.....

All the County Championships Finals (Div.2, Div. 3 and U20) apart from the Bill Beaumont Mens Div.1 Final & the Gill Burns Womens Div. 1 finals will be played at the Stadio Della Ealing in June!
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Quite a few pull outs i've noticed. Even the teams at the bottom in the bowl have gone straight to knockout!
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The link seems broken, or is that the joke?
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Originally posted by carlos fandango carlos fandango wrote:

The link seems broken, or is that the joke?


Try that.

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Cheers. WSM would have been a good road trip. Shame we're home. Though I'm sure our treasurer will disagree.
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