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WEvans
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Indeed but I think the mistake you may be making is expecting the RFU to abide by their own regulations!
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gerg_861
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The one thing that I will add is that we should keep in mind that the fans had nothing to do with the poor business practices that led to their clubs' demise. I really feel for these folks, many of whom will have seen their rugby day out as a key part of their regular social interaction.
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WEvans
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100% correct!
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corporalcarrot
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Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD.
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gerg_861
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FHLH
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and now for something completely different
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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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cheshire exile
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“We’d like to thank all the Nat 1 clubs who have expressed interest “; presumably the existing clubs can kiss Mr Sweeney’s a”&&”?
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Camquin
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Interesting, I read that as: "we would like to thank you for your interest but will not be offering you as a position at this time." But, it could be read the other way. I really think the Championship needs to expand to 14 teams, it would, however, spoil an epic fight between Chinnor and Rams - currently both on 77 points - with Chinnor ahead on points difference. At the moment, if it were three up, Moseley would join them. But they are only just ahead of Plymouth, both having to play Rams and Chinnor, as well as each other. Chester would be annoyed if it happened, as currently they are looking like being back in the North next season, with Sale looking to have pulled clear of relegation. If there is no relegation, Chester and Macclesfield would vie for a place in N2N. |
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Sweeney Delenda Est
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FHLH
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Or to play devil's advocate, 16 with 3 promotion and 2 parachuted guests
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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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gerg_861
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kempstonblue
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29th March? Has Bill Sweenys Messiah complex got to this stage? Will he be paraded through Richmond with his burden of RFU leadership on his back? Abused by 2,000 club reps? To be sacrificed on Good Friday between two bandits? Keir Starmer and Rishi Sunak. I better go now and do some confession at Church…
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The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused.
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WEvans
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Tickets at most Premiership clubs are high enough. Expecting the existing supporters to pay even more is hardly the way to boost support or finances in the long-term..
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Cherub
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Reading through the 24 pages of this link has made me realise just how tired I am of everything to do with the top two tiers of English rugby right now. The lack of leadership at the top, the different players brought in and out every week by many of the Championship teams, and the financial difficulties of all the top clubs has totally dampened by enthusiasm. Instead, I will just focus my attention on an old-fashioned club called Wharfedale. Their squad is overwhelmingly local lads who are there for all the season, the ground is set in the midst of the wonderful Yorkshire Dales, the clubhouse oozes atmostphere, and the standard of rugby is really very good. A week last Saturday I watched them beat Otley away by 41-0, and then last Saturday I was there to watch them beat Hull Ionians by 39-19. It was a pleasure to be at both games. Everything was so simple, and I am fairly sure their finances are in good order. It was all very 1970s but such a refreshing change from all the dopey stuff going on at the top. So, until we know how many teams will be in the Championship from next season, what financial assistance will be available, whether there will be a TV sponsor, what the promotion and relegation will be, and what criteria will be needed for promotion, I will stick to enjoying the basics down in Nation League Two North.
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Always trying to stay bright-eyed and bushy-tailed.
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FHLH
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I confess a preference for National League rugby - like a pair of comfy slippers
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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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Abbotsman
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Very well put, me too. It could be National League 1 or 2 at the moment next season due to current position in NL1 however standards in both are good. |
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No 7
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Owning your ground is key factor in my opinion.
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Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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The Blues
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Technically we don’t achieve that either! It is rented for an annual rent of £15,000 from a charity owned by the council which has restrictive covenants on the land for the purpose of sport. Although the set up of Ealing also don’t own their own ground.
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ParkBench
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Did we ever get to discover the new minimum operating standards (MOS) promised for March 29th?
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Camquin
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No, but we did find out tat the deadline had slipped. Apparently there is another meeting with the RFU today. |
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Sweeney Delenda Est
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SK 88
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https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/rfu-council-update-19-april-2024
Council update. Sounds positive to me. I imagine that view won't be shared by many on here. "RFU Council has approved the following: The principles of a new governance structure and decision-making responsibilities for the new league – the composition of a Tier 2 Management Board will be three representatives from each of the RFU and Championship Clubs Committee with an independent Chair. The objective for the board is to create a body with independent, club and RFU representation responsible for decision-making for certain decisions relating to the league, giving it the ability to respond to the new Tier 2 specific context, while also streamlining the interactions with the delivery functions and club representations to ensure the optimal running and commercialisation of the league. The Tier 2 Management Board will be put in place at the earliest opportunity. Revised and enhanced Minimum Operating Standards (MOS) driving player development, fan experience, and growth ambitions – the RFU Council today approved the ‘essential’ MOS that must be in place by the start of the 2025-26 season (see detail below). Aligned to the growth ambitions for the league, the standards have been divided into three categories.
League size and competition structure options – the RFU Council approved the principle that Tier 2 will comprise 14 clubs for season 2025-26. Between the April and June Council meetings further modelling around 12, 14 and 16 club league structures, balancing commercial and performance with player welfare will take place. The precise mechanism for the selection of additional clubs will be worked on and presented at the June Council meeting. Whilst a 14-team structure is preferable at this stage, a 16-team option is considered to be an aspirational goal for the league’s growth and development, and additional work is required to assess the future optimum number. Further recommendations will be brought to the June Council meeting. Season 2024-25 will be a Championship of 12 clubs, comprising the 11 existing Championship clubs and the winner of National One (Chinnor RFC). Council approved a process for existing Championship clubs to validate and evidence their ability to meet the “essential” minimum operating standards, and other matters, in order to participate in the new Tier 2 league, which will ultimately be decided by the Tier 2 Management Board. " |
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