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Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

RFU announce new criteria for Premiership entry… only clubs who have previously played in the Premiership previously and their name begins with a W will be eligible for promotion! Wink


To be fair, that makes as much sense as most of the existing criteria!
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Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Point of correction! Wuss have to clear all rugby creditors by the end of April. They have already paid £9m to DCMS re COVID loan and have to pay the balance of £6m plus HMRC by the end of 2025. 

That is a lot more than many companies pay under English Company Law which allows Directors to close down loss-making businesses, buy the assets at a knock-down price and start trading again straight away.

The difference is that rugby is supposed to be primarily a sport and not a vehicle for a failed businesses to have another go.
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In terms of precedent, I disagree with what has been done, and it seems unfair to clubs like London Scottish, London Welsh, and Richmond. 

On the other hand, it is probably good for rugby, and certainly good for rugby fans in Worcester. I'm excited by the idea of a a trip to Worcester, which I haven't visited before, and if this raises commercial interest in the Championship, then that can only be a good thing.
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Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

In terms of precedent, I disagree with what has been done, and it seems unfair to clubs like London Scottish, London Welsh, and Richmond. 

On the other hand, it is probably good for rugby, and certainly good for rugby fans in Worcester. I'm excited by the idea of a a trip to Worcester, which I haven't visited before, and if this raises commercial interest in the Championship, then that can only be a good thing.

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Originally posted by JZSmith JZSmith wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Point of correction! Wuss have to clear all rugby creditors by the end of April. They have already paid £9m to DCMS re COVID loan and have to pay the balance of £6m plus HMRC by the end of 2025. 

That is a lot more than many companies pay under English Company Law which allows Directors to close down loss-making businesses, buy the assets at a knock-down price and start trading again straight away.

The difference is that rugby is supposed to be primarily a sport and not a vehicle for a failed businesses to have another go.

You are right that 'rugby' is supposed to be primarily a sport. However, by its very nature, 'professional rugby' is primarily a business.


Edited by Se7en - 04 Apr 2025 at 13:13
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Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

In terms of precedent, I disagree with what has been done, and it seems unfair to clubs like London Scottish, London Welsh, and Richmond. 

On the other hand, it is probably good for rugby, and certainly good for rugby fans in Worcester. I'm excited by the idea of a a trip to Worcester, which I haven't visited before, and if this raises commercial interest in the Championship, then that can only be a good thing.
Be aware that Sixways is miles from the city centre (which is really very pleasant), and is even in a different district.

It is handy for the M5, though.
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It's a nice walk back to town from Sixways on the canal towpath, with a handy pub about halfway. Handshake 
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Originally posted by Geoff DC Geoff DC wrote:

It's a nice walk back to town from Sixways on the canal towpath, with a handy pub about halfway. Handshake 
Git to be well over an hour though - even without the pub.
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The Lamb and Flag used to served EXCELLENT Guiness in Worcester.   On the road in on the A38 on the RHS
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Originally posted by Ramsale2 Ramsale2 wrote:

The Lamb and Flag used to served EXCELLENT Guiness in Worcester.   On the road in on the A38 on the RHS
And Guinness.
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Originally posted by Se7en Se7en wrote:

Originally posted by JZSmith JZSmith wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Point of correction! Wuss have to clear all rugby creditors by the end of April. They have already paid £9m to DCMS re COVID loan and have to pay the balance of £6m plus HMRC by the end of 2025. 

That is a lot more than many companies pay under English Company Law which allows Directors to close down loss-making businesses, buy the assets at a knock-down price and start trading again straight away.

The difference is that rugby is supposed to be primarily a sport and not a vehicle for a failed businesses to have another go.

You are right that 'rugby' is supposed to be primarily a sport. However, by its very nature, 'professional rugby' is primarily a business.

Without rugby these businesses would not exist so I disagree. 
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Originally posted by JZSmith JZSmith wrote:

Originally posted by Se7en Se7en wrote:

Originally posted by JZSmith JZSmith wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Point of correction! Wuss have to clear all rugby creditors by the end of April. They have already paid £9m to DCMS re COVID loan and have to pay the balance of £6m plus HMRC by the end of 2025. 

That is a lot more than many companies pay under English Company Law which allows Directors to close down loss-making businesses, buy the assets at a knock-down price and start trading again straight away.

The difference is that rugby is supposed to be primarily a sport and not a vehicle for a failed businesses to have another go.

You are right that 'rugby' is supposed to be primarily a sport. However, by its very nature, 'professional rugby' is primarily a business.

Without rugby these businesses would not exist so I disagree. 

I don't believe that anyone is saying that professional rugby would exist 'without rugby', rather that the professional clubs are run primarily as businesses.
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The mighty Mond sealed promotion today, so unless Donny goes on a tear and Ealing stumbles bay, we know our 25/26 league.
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With all due respect to some hard working Nat1 clubs, I think we’ve known most of the league for a while.
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Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

The mighty Mond sealed promotion today, so unless Donny goes on a tear and Ealing stumbles bay, we know our 25/26 league.

Congratulations to Richmond. They take their place on merit.
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What am I missing, other than the unlikely, Richmond are 10 points ahead according to the BBC with 2 games to go.  Yes there is 141 points difference, but if Richmond were to lose 2 by 20 points and Rosslyn Park win both by 51 points they would end up on 20 wins each.

  1. Number of matches won
  2. Difference between points for and against
  3. Total number of points for
  4. Aggregate number of points scored in matches between tied teams
  5. Number of matches won excluding the first match, then the second and so on until the tie is settled
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I believe it is still

2: Number of Draws
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

I believe it is still

2: Number of Draws


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