Martyn Wood released by Carnegie
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Topic: Martyn Wood released by Carnegie
Posted By: OldNick
Subject: Martyn Wood released by Carnegie
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2019 at 19:53
Full details here https://www.yorkshirecarnegie.com/news/article/yorkshire-carnegie-announce-martyn-woods-departure/
Summary: Immediate effect, no successor appointed yet.
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Posted By: Middle Man
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2019 at 20:05
so they have no money no future no ground no team and they sack Coach who begged stole and cobbled a team together ! disgusting they deserve everything i am sure they will get.
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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2019 at 20:15
Middle Man wrote:
so they have no money no future no ground no team and they sack Coach who begged stole and cobbled a team together ! disgusting they deserve everything i am sure they will get. |
All too predictable, not sure why he thought it would end any different.
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Posted By: Deerhunter2
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2019 at 20:17
Jon Newcombe is hinting at Nigel Melville or is he?
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Posted By: geralltrugby
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2019 at 20:23
Nothing changes at Carnegie except for the name and coaches. Must be awful to be associated with the club.
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Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2019 at 20:34
Poor man. A poisoned chalice for anyone.
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Posted By: Runitback
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2019 at 20:39
The farce continues . . as predicted!
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Posted By: Stalwart
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2019 at 21:00
It would have been so much better for everyone if the club had folded, dropped to the lowest league and started to rebuild. This is farcical.
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Posted By: BP Youth
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2019 at 21:06
Who, in their right mind, is going to fill the vacancy?
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Posted By: Full Bodied Red
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2019 at 21:10
Maybe somebody’s teed up already?
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Posted By: BP Youth
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2019 at 21:13
Full Bodied Red wrote:
Maybe somebody’s teed up already? |
I repeat my previous post ... who, in their right mind,...
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Posted By: Middle Man
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2019 at 21:18
Surely there is no body in Rugby stupid enough to take that Job ??
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2019 at 21:40
I am afraid Martyn Wood was - so I am sure there are other fools.
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Posted By: Old School
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2019 at 21:45
There must be some money sloshing around up there - nobody is there for love.
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Posted By: Rabbie Burns
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2019 at 21:56
Absolutely shameful to treat someone this way when he started with noting and had actually managed to put a team on the pitch which most thought was an impossible task
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2019 at 22:01
You may need to check the tense in that sentence. Sounds to me line it has run out.
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Posted By: omnes Paviores
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2019 at 22:10
I am sat here watching the Keeler affair which might carry some truths about the complications of real politics.
However, the same thing happens at Twickenham where politics are as dirty
Martyn was a fool to take the job but I believe he was set up for the time being to keep the job rolling. I have no sympathy for Martyn. In my mind the man who set him up will probably replace him as DoR and will move back to Yorkshire from Twickenham.
The competitions review will be made public soon and everyone knows this is will be a farce without clubs having their say.
The premiership will be ring fenced with Falcons returning and Leicester remaining up there. The Championship will be semi ring fenced with Leeds remaining in the Championship under their new DoR.
Sort yourselves out from Level 3 and below
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Posted By: Clive Norling
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2019 at 08:04
omnes Paviores wrote:
However, the same thing happens at Twickenham where politics are as dirty |
You're not far wrong there ....
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Posted By: stadium
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2019 at 11:17
The RFU must share some of the blame for the mess.
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Posted By: knightandday
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2019 at 12:26
Do you get the feeling that a cunning plan is being hatched to escape relegation
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Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2019 at 13:59
If, owing to a rule change, they escape relegation, it will bring the system into even further disrepute. If they can’t hack it on the pitch then they shouldn’t be there. Sacking the manager is the usual trick employed by soccer clubs. Can’t see it working here.
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2019 at 14:45
knightandday wrote:
Do you get the feeling that a cunning plan is being hatched to escape relegation |
YES......They know there will be a change . Wait and see how corrupt and sinister the whole set up is. There are certain clubs sacrificing this whole season knowing there will be no relegation and building a financial war chest for next season.
The acquisition of top quality, key players will be even more critical for the 20/21 season.
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Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2019 at 15:33
I think that plan A hasn’t worked and sacking the manager is a last gasp desperate move.
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Posted By: Tyke
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2019 at 16:41
Pappashanga wrote:
I think that plan A hasn’t worked and sacking the manager is a last gasp desperate move.
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You mean there was a plan!!!!!
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Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2019 at 19:40
Yes they had a plan. Get a manager, find some players, hope to win some games. Naive I know, but a plan.
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2019 at 22:16
There was also a plan to find another sponsor. But that would require them to find a Yorkshireman who was willing to part with their money for nothing. Fortunately the White Rose country is famed for its generosity and foolishness
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Posted By: Guinness John
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2020 at 00:26
I have to admit posting this after several large rum and cokes, but we at Bedford hope that Yorkshire Carnegie carry on exactly as they have been doing for the rest of the season 😉🍷
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2020 at 15:24
I'm delighted to say that I'm free. I have no experience of coaching, stopped playing 30 years ago and live 150 miles away. However, I love rugby and am told that chips are served with gravy AND peas in this part of the country. What more could a chap want?
My good friend Camquin will join me occasionally although I haven't asked him yet.
Here's to a great 2020 end of the season with victories a plenty for Leeds.
Quick question, when did the 25 become 22 yards?
Happy New Years chaps and I truly hope all the best to Leeds, there have been put into an unenviable position by the RFU and their managers so give a thought to the players who have mortgages etc - and yes, the 10 level drop would have been best but, as the saying goes, we are where we are and there will be an aspiring coach needing some time on his /her CV.
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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2020 at 16:57
Let's hope Martyn Wood is paid all the money he is owed. Many last season weren't by this disreputable club.
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Posted By: JonDee
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2020 at 20:28
Sorry as the guy left his previous club without much notice and took some players with him and they are in serious problems how much sympathy should he receive . With his new employers track record he must have known it was a gamble
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Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2020 at 12:22
No 7 wrote:
knightandday wrote:
Do you get the feeling that a cunning plan is being hatched to escape relegation |
YES......They know there will be a change . Wait and see how corrupt and sinister the whole set up is. There are certain clubs sacrificing this whole season knowing there will be no relegation and building a financial war chest for next season.
The acquisition of top quality, key players will be even more critical for the 20/21 season. | Sorry No.7 I must be missing something. Why would clubs be building a war chest to spend on top quality players for the 20/21 season when the top 2 flights are likely to be ring fenced. I would argue that they are more likely to offload their top player salary earners to get some money behind themselves for when the leagues become meaningful again in the next 10 years or so. In the meantime, the supporters of the top 24 teams will be paying to watch, mainly, meaningless games with the top players concentrated around the top 3 or 4 clubs as everyone takes the opportunity to get back into the black until the time comes to splash it all out again. The Championship will become a graveyard and I can't see many turning up for games unless entry prices are slashed significantly.
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Posted By: cheshire exile
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2020 at 19:43
And a happy new year to you too......
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2020 at 22:38
Brizzer wrote:
No 7 wrote:
knightandday wrote:
Do you get the feeling that a cunning plan is being hatched to escape relegation |
YES......They know there will be a change . Wait and see how corrupt and sinister the whole set up is. There are certain clubs sacrificing this whole season knowing there will be no relegation and building a financial war chest for next season.
The acquisition of top quality, key players will be even more critical for the 20/21 season. | Sorry No.7 I must be missing something. Why would clubs be building a war chest to spend on top quality players for the 20/21 season when the top 2 flights are likely to be ring fenced. I would argue that they are more likely to offload their top player salary earners to get some money behind themselves for when the leagues become meaningful again in the next 10 years or so. In the meantime, the supporters of the top 24 teams will be paying to watch, mainly, meaningless games with the top players concentrated around the top 3 or 4 clubs as everyone takes the opportunity to get back into the black until the time comes to splash it all out again. The Championship will become a graveyard and I can't see many turning up for games unless entry prices are slashed significantly. |
Ring fencing for the Premiership is coming, there may be one or two opportunities to get the Premiership side of the fence but the system will be manipulated to suit. Certain clubs are not invited and will be by hook or crook left on the other side of the fence.
Next season could be the last season where it is even possible.
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Posted By: backrowb
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 07:37
Phil Davies returns to YC. Wonder if any new players are also arriving
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Posted By: tulip
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 07:40
backrowb wrote:
Phil Davies returns to YC. Wonder if any new players are also arriving | If I was Phll Davies I would want to be be payed up front
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 08:06
Must have found a pile of cash in the broom cupboard.
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Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 08:47
Yorkshire Post wrote:
"We will look to strengthen the squad in the short-term, if possible, but looking longer term, we want to create a strategic plan for rugby union in Leeds in order to provide a sustainable future for the sport at an elite level in the city.”That last comment is telling; Sir Ian McGeechan instigated a controversial name change from Leeds Carnegie to Yorkshire Carnegie in 2014, a decision that both upset many and clearly did not lead to any long-term good for the troubled club. It seems Davies – who will also join the board of directors as well as running the rugby operation – wants to return to the club’s Leeds roots and it would be no surprise if a name change eventually followed if they can survive the threat of demotion. |
I would have thought a name change is the least of their worries right now, although completely understand why it would be part of a longer-term strategic review. The only question is whether they have even a mid-term future, never mind long-term.
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Posted By: marigold
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 09:19
Wonder how many of the Namibian world cup squad will end up suddenly living near Headingley? Not sure where else PD will get players from. Returning to the roots would be a good idea-reinstate Roundhay and Headingley-two proper rugby clubs.
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Posted By: Welshie7
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 09:53
OR Leinster academy players from another Leeds old boy connection???
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 10:19
Lancaster's lad already there
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Posted By: Middle Man
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2020 at 16:33
It would seem the Leedshire problems are over with their new saviour,They are polling for yet another name ! I have a suggestion Leedshire Carnegie Yorkshie Tykes Leeds RUFC hows that that covers about all the names in one.Are they having a laugh ??
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Posted By: marigold
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2020 at 17:23
How about Richmond Yorkshire -there is one and would seem appropriate. Bit like Saracens finally apologising and admitting they will be over the salary cap by the end of this season if they do not get rid of some players.
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Posted By: greeneyed
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 10:33
I quite like 'Roundhead Phoenix' as a name. It won't be for long, so it doesn't matter.
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Posted By: Albert Fishwick
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 11:15
The poll was run by a supporter as a bit of fun. The change back to Leeds Tykes seems nailed on, subject to the usual RFU approval.
I'm not sure anyone expects Phil Davies to do much more with the squad we have than Martyn Wood was able to but his arrival has certainly perked up some of the long-time supporters (me included) who haven't bothered much this season. The suggestion that there could be a future after relegation goes against what I had always assumed, but can't be taken as certain given the way our investors have comported themselves lately.
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Posted By: Middle Man
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 16:16
Albert You are Home and Dry , the RFU have not got a clue whats going on anyway. You can get away with murder ! oh sorry you already have. What a bloody Farce. You definitely could not write this one.
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 18:45
Pirates (a), Falcons (h) - tough start for Phil D
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 19:26
To some extent. If the powers that be have any sense they will know that those games are lost. So they can give him a month, so he can plan a four week training scheme to build to Nottingham at home.
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Posted By: B Cap
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 20:21
Moreover - surely Davies will have come in with the assurance of new personnel to support his mission? As you say Camquin, they will be targetting matches now. Home games with a few more Tykes fans could well yield the odd win and - without stating the obvious - they only need to do better than the next worse side to stay up. Last game of the season - Bedford away - could be interesting..
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Posted By: Runitback
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 20:28
Leeds have not really been competitive in any game so far this season, so it is a big ask for Phil Davies to magic a win or more importantly 4 or 5 to overhaul Bedford. Unless of course a host of new faces appear . . even then I think survival in the league is unlikely.
Will this move bring the crowds flooding into Headingly . . . very very unlikely, even in their heyday crowds were pretty miserable.
But I presume Mr Davies would not have accepted the job with assurances about future funding and player recruitment?
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Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 20:37
Where are these new players coming from. If I was a Kiwi with nothing better to do I’d want the whole years money up front and the best medical insurance money can buy.
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Posted By: B Cap
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 20:39
Looking at the big picture, with 15 games to play, Tykes need to secure 4 more points, before game 22 , than Bedford (as it stands ) to set up a winner takes all ( or loses all ..) final game at Goldington Road in May. Is this possible?
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Posted By: PiffPaff
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 21:12
I doubt they will come close to any bonus points in January.
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Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2020 at 10:45
B Cap wrote:
Looking at the big picture, with 15 games to play, Tykes need to secure 4 more points, before game 22 , than Bedford (as it stands ) to set up a winner takes all ( or loses all ..) final game at Goldington Road in May. Is this possible?
| Of course it is, anything is possible, but is it likely? .... errrrm no!
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Posted By: Middle Man
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2020 at 16:18
They should have been dealt with properly in the first place by the Union, What has been allowed to happen by them is an injustice The demise of Hull Ionians a legacy of Leedshires position and what did they then do but discard the man they stole to help them. Its a very very sad state of affairs .
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Posted By: Dad
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2020 at 16:26
Maybe a dodgy deal with saracens for some spare players to effectively appear to lower the Saracen wage bill below the cap whilst getting the "right" clubs into the right leagues before raising the drawbridge
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Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2020 at 16:40
Careful, you'll give them ideas.
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2020 at 17:38
Quote: getting the "right" clubs into the right leagues before raising the drawbridge
That is it , there is the problem . What is the plan to get the right clubs the required right side of the fence.
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Posted By: Dad
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2020 at 23:16
I actually wonder of the Tyrells Women's Prem set up was a dress rehersal
There the clubs had to apply to have a place, the winners were chosen (by some secret means) and in return for also promising to run a Centre of Excellence as part of the player pathway they got the promise of no relegation for 3 yrs. That period is now ending, the 10 teams will be ranked depending on various measures including on pitch performance. The top 6 will be safe the next 4 will be pitched against any teams wanting to join and the best 4 of the combined group of teams offered the places for the next period
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Posted By: Middle Man
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2020 at 09:59
Problem is clubs like Leeds shire are allowed to get away with deeds that go unpunished its totally wrong. it sends the wrong message out and brings the game into disrepute.It also makes a mockery of the Championship in this case when clearly they should have been demoted certainly One maybe two Leagues ! the blame lays in both camps Leedshire mismanagement The RFU no Clue at ALL ! Conclusion game in disrepute some Championship games a joke.
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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2020 at 21:03
Middle Man wrote:
Problem is clubs like Leeds shire are allowed to get away with deeds that go unpunished its totally wrong. it sends the wrong message out and brings the game into disrepute.It also makes a mockery of the Championship in this case when clearly they should have been demoted certainly One maybe two Leagues ! the blame lays in both camps Leedshire mismanagement The RFU no Clue at ALL ! Conclusion game in disrepute some Championship games a joke. |
I quite agree - teams that go bust should be relegated (at least 1 or 2 levels), it is far to easy to liquidate, pay creditors a pittance and continue at the level they are at with either no or little points deduction.
Plymouth comes to mind as another recent example.
Compare this with the punishment meted out to yet he likes of London Welsh and Richmond in the past and one wonders wether it is a case of 'who you know' that determines punishment.
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2020 at 21:38
Well it just got harder for Leeds. Four points for Bedford at Scottish
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Posted By: PiffPaff
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2020 at 08:37
Maybe it will get easier CQ? Rugby Paper today, Phil Davies new DoR...."and we have some money available to add maybe 4 or 5 players....."
Anyone shocked? Club with heinous MO, talks about doing the same again!
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Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2020 at 09:48
Yes it’s incredible, but predictable. Little more to say that hasn’t been said many times before.
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Posted By: Stalwart
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2020 at 10:59
PiffPaff wrote:
Maybe it will get easier CQ? Rugby Paper today, Phil Davies new DoR...."and we have some money available to add maybe 4 or 5 players....."
Anyone shocked? Club with heinous MO, talks about doing the same again! |
Totally shameless. Hopefully they'll get relegated. If Bedford do go down (or anyone else apart from Leeds) it would be disgrace.
Hope The Pirates can put another nail in their coffin this afternoon. Tough on the players and supporters, but justice needs to be done.
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Posted By: The Joy of (Level) 7
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2020 at 11:29
Four or five of Saracens’ biggest names might be enough for them to get out of trouble.
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Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2020 at 11:41
Ridiculous situation. If a club can’t manage without wholesale borrowing they shouldn’t be there.
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Posted By: Dalesman
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2020 at 09:49
Well, Phi Davies made an impact then!
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2020 at 10:33
Dalesman wrote:
Well, Phi Davies made an impact then!
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At least he made an impact in The Rugby Paper - his appointment got the entire inside cover on page 2!
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Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2020 at 10:42
It's all news, isn't it? Much more interesting when things are going wrong. I think if they can borrow the entire Saracens first team they may escape. Their results so far are worse than any team I've seen in the Championship during the past few years. Their antics have wrecked Hull Ionians too. They've had similar cricket scores against. 86-7 on Saturday and fifty something the week before.
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2020 at 10:54
Excuse my naivety, but could the leniency shown to Leeds be as much to do with rugby in the North as anything else? Relegation is the only moral position to take, but when did morality worry RFU. Very surprised, if not disappointed / embarrassed for the game, to see they have some cash in the cupboard for some 3 month contracts.
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Posted By: Middle Man
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2020 at 12:34
Oh my G Leedshire or whatever they are called this week have money available to bring in players WHAT an ABSOLOUTE DISGRACE !!!! GAME IN TOTAL DISREPUTE , SHAMBLES. No wonder no one in game likes them apart from 300 souls they have left. If they don't go down and a good club like Bedford do WELL !!!! Justice must be done.
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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2020 at 14:30
Couldn't a new league be set up containing just two clubs - Yorkshire Carnegie (or whatever they are calling themselves) and Saracens? They could play each other every single week and leave the Premiership and Championship free of their pollution.
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Posted By: Runitback
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2020 at 14:47
Great idea WEvans, but it would need to be "ringfenced"!!!!
Ps For Phil Davies to make the comments about bringing 4 or 5 players in he is obviously oblivious to full nature of what happened at Leeds last year!!
On a serious note even with 4 or 5 Saracens or whoever, I dont see them avoiding relegation. Then hopefully the RFU will recognise there are bigger and better clubs in Yorkshire.
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Posted By: greenpower
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2020 at 17:11
they are just a parasitic organisation that needs to be eradicated and sooner the better
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Posted By: Guinness John
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2020 at 18:19
Don't worry about The Blues, we'll be fine. Those who saw the game against London Scottish will know that. So logically, although we agree that they should not be in the division, every side needs to follow Pirates example 50 0. I find the idea of bringing in more players as money is available absolutely awful. So players who have agreed to play for them will end up not playing, Disgraceful.
------------- Bedford Blues Supporter of the Year 2010 - 2011
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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2020 at 20:16
Guinness John wrote:
Don't worry about The Blues, we'll be fine. Those who saw the game against London Scottish will know that. So logically, although we agree that they should not be in the division, every side needs to follow Pirates example 50 0. I find the idea of bringing in more players as money is available absolutely awful. So players who have agreed to play for them will end up not playing, Disgraceful. |
And unless they are paid up front, the new players are unlikely to receive everything they are promised/contracted.
Shoddy all round.
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Posted By: greeneyed
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2020 at 10:27
I wonder where Roundhead Phoenix are getting the money to bring in new players? Oh wait a minute - I remember now . . . . . .
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Posted By: Middle Man
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2020 at 11:34
No room in Game for Leedshire or whatever their name is today its a disgrace. Demote them to Bottom Tier.Level ten .
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Posted By: The 15
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2020 at 11:14
Joe Ford, gone from Yorkshire Leeds Carnegie Tykes or whatever they are called today.In typical whatever their name is the supporters have been magnanimous in their thanks to this Lad and his efforts at this place. Some of the comments typify what this place is all about. Lets hope they and Saracens get what they truly deserve for bringing our game into disrepute.think its fair to say they are not even liked in Yorkshire.
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Posted By: Middle Man
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2020 at 10:28
So Leeds sack Coach but don’t get any better pumped at home Fri against fellow strugglers Notts. If they think Nat 1 will be a pushover just ask your mates at Rotherham !! You are in for a shock !!!!
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Posted By: Friendly prop
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2020 at 10:50
Middle Man wrote:
So Leeds sack Coach but don’t get any better pumped at home Fri against fellow strugglers Notts. If they think Nat 1 will be a pushover just ask your mates at Rotherham !! You are in for a shock !!!! |
Do you think Carnegie will survive the drop? Nobody is going to play for free and we have seen what happens to those who don't pay. B&S and South Leicester both falling by the wayside this season. Unless the get another benefactor/RFU bail out I'm not sure there will be a team next season even with a RFU shuffle.
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Posted By: Coventrian Man
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2020 at 10:57
South Leicester not Lions!
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Posted By: Friendly prop
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2020 at 12:50
Coventrian Man wrote:
South Leicester not Lions! |
Apologies. I'd got Peterborough Lions on my mind, LL are doing particularly well in N2S.
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Posted By: Elijah Cadman
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2020 at 12:55
Watch the Leeds vs Nottingham game on Friday.
Was shocked! Even though Nottingham scored 60 points they butchered at least another 20-25 easily. On this performance, even with the new Welsh Coaching set up reacquainted would not beat a level 5/6 side imho.
Honestly couldnt see anyway forward even with the promised Namibians arriving this week as was the talk.
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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2020 at 13:57
Elijah Cadman wrote:
Watch the Leeds vs Nottingham game on Friday.
Was shocked! Even though Nottingham scored 60 points they butchered at least another 20-25 easily. On this performance, even with the new Welsh Coaching set up reacquainted would not beat a level 5/6 side imho.
Honestly couldnt see anyway forward even with the promised Namibians arriving this week as was the talk. |
It seems they are aiming a lot lower than last year's cavalry (or should I say cheaper)
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Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2020 at 08:16
Elijah Cadman wrote:
Watch the Leeds vs Nottingham game on Friday.
Was shocked! Even though Nottingham scored 60 points they butchered at least another 20-25 easily. On this performance, even with the new Welsh Coaching set up reacquainted would not beat a level 5/6 side imho.
Honestly couldnt see anyway forward even with the promised Namibians arriving this week as was the talk. |
The trouble is that the lesser nations at the World Cup aren't actually as good as a mid-table Championship club, and many of the players individually are only National One standard. So (with all due respect) even if they are able to parachute a few Namibians in, they're not necessarily going to be good enough to lift them out of the mire this time.
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Posted By: The 15
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2020 at 10:36
They will get a shock in Nat 1 some very very good fit organised sides lots of trips to London. They should talk to Roth they will put them in picture. They posted crowd of 352 Fri thats a disaster. I think the end is near. They should have moved out of Headingley years ago they have no Home thats NOT good.
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Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2020 at 10:53
Yes the quality in N1 is high. They make more mistakes than in the Championship but not many. Having said that, England’s first half yesterday contained more than the N1 match I watched the day before.
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Posted By: backrowb
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2020 at 11:26
That side would get a shock in Nat2N, nevermind Nat1
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Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2020 at 11:39
The whole saga is a sad reflection on the administration of rugby.
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Posted By: Stoatgobbler
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2020 at 13:14
The 15 wrote:
They will get a shock in Nat 1 some very very good fit organised sides lots of trips to London. They should talk to Roth they will put them in picture. They posted crowd of 352 Fri thats a disaster. I think the end is near. They should have moved out of Headingley years ago they have no Home thats NOT good. |
There was a crowd of 273 at Old Deer Park on the weekend, to see London Welsh beat Datchworth 69-0 in the heady heights of London 2 North West.
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Posted By: The Joy of (Level) 7
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2020 at 13:33
Pappashanga wrote:
The whole saga is a sad reflection on the administration of rugby.
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TBF, I think the administration of the game as a whole is ok. It’s just the administration of the professional game that’s shambolic. The combination of both clubs and “governing” bodies that struggle to come to terms with full-time professionalism is a recipe for disaster.
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2020 at 13:34
627 at the Rock for Rosslyn Park v Cambidge.
I do not think the travel will be the problem for Carnegie - after all Plymouth is nearer than Penzance and they do not need to go to Jersey.
However, losing another £600k from the budget could well be.
Unless Rhinos let them play and train at Headingley for nothing - or they have found another mug - I cannot see where they playing budget comes from.
Of course had the Championship been expanded to 16 this season, Old Elthamians would have gone up - and they are also looking at an empty cupboard after the death of their benefactor.
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Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2020 at 14:05
The 600k has been spent on maintaining a team well below Championship standard with the humiliating statistic of zero wins and one point. It was all so predictable. They'd have been better off being demoted and trying to rebuild. Who knows whether it will continue, but the financially sound Richmond has done just that. The demotion may well have been a blessing in disguise, giving them a chance to absorb a large number of new players and become a formidable unit. Crowds have increased and morale is high.
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Posted By: marigold
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2020 at 14:43
Looks like Park v Richmond on Fri March 6th will be huge. Suggest will be biggest London crowd outside of Prem this season. The winner will probably get to play Saracens next season ........
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Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2020 at 14:58
Stoatgobbler wrote:
There was a crowd of 273 at Old Deer Park on the weekend, to see London Welsh beat Datchworth 69-0 in the heady heights of London 2 North West. |
Our smallest crowd of the season!
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Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2020 at 15:39
Marigold, I'm hoping that Mond will have such a lead by then that the result will only be about bragging rights.
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2020 at 18:03
Quite a task awaits the Carnegie reinforcements, wherever they are from. How many of their last 12 games would they need to win? Perhaps half?
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Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2020 at 18:42
And hopefully their first win won’t occur next Sunday when they entertain the mighty Ampthill, especially as my youngest daughter and myself will be attending and so swelling the attendance to a near record.
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2020 at 19:28
islander wrote:
Quite a task awaits the Carnegie reinforcements, wherever they are from. How many of their last 12 games would they need to win? Perhaps half? |
Just gets worse, only 11 games left
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