Trailfinders Cup needs postponing
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Topic: Trailfinders Cup needs postponing
Posted By: marigold
Subject: Trailfinders Cup needs postponing
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 08:14
Sadly this wll intentioned competition needs to be postponed immediately. The Women's league has been postponed for a fortnight so as to not add pressure on the NHS especially in London. The Premiership has decided to rest for 2 weeks. These friendlies are meaningless and any injuries that occur and require hospital treatment will add pressure on the A and E departments already bursting at the seams. It is not like either of these teams are going to struggle to be the top two in the league if it takes place. It is only Wednesday so lets hope good sense prevails.
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Posted By: Scrumtime
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 13:44
Yet again Marigold you speak total sense.
How can this be allowed to be played. It will fly in the face of everything Uk Gov is trying to do. And before somebody says, its a warm up game not in anyway Elite sport!
They have called off the Womens and also the Mens Under 20's Six nations today.
So no way they can let this happen Its a pointless game and pointless risk ... The RFU needs to get a grip and pull this
It will also properly end up with a few players testing positive as well.
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Posted By: PiffPaff
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 14:39
BT Sport have pulled the plug on possibly covering this pointless game
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Posted By: stadium
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 14:55
Ealing Trailfinders PR exercise is part of their campaign to get into Premier League before it is Ringfenced. RFU needs to have a word about the competition.
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Posted By: Monkey Boy
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 18:18
Financial decisions or public health decisions?
What I’ve said a few times of late.
It’s commonly mentioned, when it suits, about rugby and core values.
Time to implement them in a situation where financial values are top trumped.
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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 18:41
stadium wrote:
Ealing Trailfinders PR exercise is part of their campaign to get into Premier League before it is Ringfenced.RFU needs to have a word about the competition. | I doubt whether Ealing's decision to promote the competition had anything to do with finance or PR. I think they deserve credit for their initiative in trying to bring rugby back within the guidelines that the government have laid down and I suspect their main motivation is likely to be creating opportunities for their squad to play rugby in difficult times. If the government guidelines/regulations require the matches to be postponed or cancelled I have no doubt Ealing and the other clubs will comply. I respect Ealing's motives and initiative in this matter although I still hope Jersey beat them next time the two teams play.
------------- Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD.
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Posted By: OLDALIKADOO10
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 18:46
I’m guessing you’ll agree it wasn’t agreed, planned, executed over a long lunch. The game is currently going ahead, I guess because the COVID protocols allow it. If something happens (players test positive) it would then be cancelled I guess. The other consideration is that Trailefinders (MG) is sponsoring this. And yes people book lots of holidays with Trailfinders (most of which are countries won’t even start vaccination programmes in 2021. I would like to TF Rugby mirrors TF travel values
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Posted By: marigold
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 18:57
I am not anti Ealing or this competition , however the Covid protocols for the Championship, and these matches, were put in place before the current C19 variant was rushing through the population, especially in London- from where the two clubs playing in the match hail from. There must be doubt if the protocols are still fit for purpose as they currently allow the Championship teams with part time players to train , many of whom i assume have jobs outside of rugby so mix with the general population daily.
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Posted By: OLDALIKADOO10
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 19:58
Ealing and I guess Saracens, can’t comment on Donny are All full time professionals
Facts please, not conjecture
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 20:34
OLDALIKADOO10 wrote:
Ealing and I guess Saracens, can’t comment on Donny areAll full time professionals
Facts please, not conjecture |
All 3 clubs are full-time. The situation is definitely bad in UK, but elite sport is continuing for the moment.
Why should Tottenham, Fulham, Man City & Brighton be fine to play football matches tonight, but not the lower-paid f/t rugby professionals of Saracens and Ealing this w/e? Because of a decision by the French government about cross-border European games?
While elite sport is allowed to continue, so should this competition, IMHO...
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Posted By: marigold
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 22:50
The facts are all 3 clubs are full time and elite sport is allowed to continue. Another fact is these games are friendlies, not part of a governing body league or cup competition. They are unrequired extra matches that unnecessarily increase the risk of the spread of Covid because you have two normally separate squads now playing against each other. Should there be any serious injuries the players will have to attend already overburdened A and E departments in London. Nor is the game televised to provide alternative viewing for the cancelled European fixtures. I suggest both clubs could gain significant positive PR if they agree to not play due to the current Covid situation in London. Alternatively they play and appear to put the importance of a friendly rugby match, 6 weeks ahead of when their league is due to start, above any responsibility they suggest they have for their local communities.
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Posted By: kempstonblue
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 04:25
marigold wrote:
The facts are all 3 clubs are full time and elite sport is allowed to continue. Another fact is these games are friendlies, not part of a governing body league or cup competition. They are unrequired extra matches that unnecessarily increase the risk of the spread of Covid because you have two normally separate squads now playing against each other. Should there be any serious injuries the players will have to attend already overburdened A and E departments in London. Nor is the game televised to provide alternative viewing for the cancelled European fixtures. I suggest both clubs could gain significant positive PR if they agree to not play due to the current Covid situation in London. Alternatively they play and appear to put the importance of a friendly rugby match, 6 weeks ahead of when their league is due to start, above any responsibility they suggest they have for their local communities.
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With seven weeks (March 6th?) until the league commences, I hope by Feb 6th decisions are made on friendlies if the RFU stick to March 6th. Or if we are still seeing significant infection numbers, a bold, sensible decision is made.
------------- The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused.
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Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 09:01
kempstonblue wrote:
With seven weeks (March 6th?) until the league commences
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I admire your optimism!
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Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 09:56
It's not looking good with a new variant found in Brazil and Japan apparently.
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Posted By: OLDALIKADOO10
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 12:16
The game is being streamed by the same production company that Saracens use 247TV
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Posted By: OLDALIKADOO10
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 12:18
Again, this appears to be a forum where people like to get on their little soap boxes for an uneducated rant
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Posted By: Taffy
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 13:05
OLDALIKADOO10 wrote:
Again, this appears to be a forum where people liketo get on their little soap boxes for an uneducated rant
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It's a forum for all opinions - education isn't a requisite
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Posted By: Monkey Boy
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 13:43
What benefit to anyone are these games?
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Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 13:53
Well, they could benefit England, so I say ditch 'em!
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Posted By: Monkey Boy
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 13:53
Maybe I should have said what purpose do they serve?
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 13:56
Monkey Boy wrote:
What benefit to anyone are these games? |
Quite a lot of good in terms of making sure that these teams are ready to hit the ground running when the season starts, and probably quite useful for Eddie Jones and the national side in terms of the Saracens contingent being match fit for the start of the six nations (I understand Saracens intend to run out a fairly full-strength side). I would be very happy to see this televised more widely to get additional eyes on the Championship product, but that doesn't look like it is happening. Then, finally, I take benefit from this in terms of mental health. I've been locked down three times in a year, doing 60 hours a week of work and homeschooling on top of that. I love watching rugby, and I'm thrilled to have a couple hours where I can just yell at my screen and relax. I doubt I'm the only one. Given that all players are being tested every day, I see the risk of these people mixing contributing to Covid spread as extremely minimal. Roll on more rugby and roll on vaccination programs.
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Posted By: OLDALIKADOO10
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 14:10
I shall let others continue another pointless thread From What I can see, there are very few people who post and contribute to this forum, and I’d put a large Wager that some who post never played much rugby, Contribute very little to their community club and have nothing better to do in these unprecedented times
Stay safe
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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 14:12
Monkey Boy wrote:
What benefit to anyone are these games? | Is the answer the players?
------------- Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD.
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Posted By: OLDALIKADOO10
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 14:21
As I mentioned before the game Is being live streamed by a company 247.TV which you need to register with, it gives you an opportunity to test the stream on whatever device you intend to use and you can purchase whatever events are available Stay safe
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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 14:34
OLDALIKADOO10 wrote:
I shall let others continue another pointless threadFrom What I can see, there are very few people who post and contribute to this forum, and I’d put a large Wager that some who post never played much rugby, Contribute very little to their community club and have nothing better to do in these unprecedented times
Stay safe
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It seems to me there are quite a few people who post and who are grown up enough not to make ridiculous assumptions when others post opinions that they don't agree with.
Enjoy your strop.
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Posted By: OLDALIKADOO10
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 14:52
Again an assumption I was having a Strop. Stay safe
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Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 17:03
Mark W-J wrote:
Well, they could benefit England, so I say ditch 'em! ![Wink Wink](smileys/smiley2.gif) |
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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 17:09
Monkey Boy wrote:
What benefit to anyone are these games? |
The Lions
Also gives the chance for 2 Championship teams to get some game time in.
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Posted By: OLDALIKADOO10
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 17:19
Rumour Billy V will be the match day squad on Saturday To get some game time in before the 6 Nations start
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Posted By: Dad
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 17:28
The Ealing academy players who are based at Brunel have all had to also had 2 Laterla flow tests from the Uni so along with club testing i would consider it pretty safe - The Brunel IUni positive rate (across the entire of the students & staff) is far less than the rate at my local secondary school (based on real numbers not conjecture)
If a professional team are willing to pay the £ for testing and follow protocols properly surely it is less dangerous than going shopping (and def less than getting on a train/bus)
PS I had it pre xmas and wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy
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Posted By: Monkey Boy
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 17:28
corporalcarrot wrote:
Monkey Boy wrote:
What benefit to anyone are these games? | Is the answer the players? |
I rephrased it. What purpose they serve?
I’ve yet to see a purpose.
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 18:30
stadium wrote:
Ealing Trailfinders PR exercise is part of their campaign to get into Premier League before it is Ringfenced.RFU needs to have a word about the competition. |
This three way round Robin is in preparation part of the campaign but in the grand scheme is just a small part of the efforts in progress. Today a new indoor training facility was started on site at Trailfinders sports centre. It is the largest fully weather proof, indoor facility I have ever seen. The drawings can be viewed on the Ealing Council planning site . It is an incredible construction and England have shown interest. It is with approved planning and is totally financed by Trailfinders, all credit to Mike Gooley with no reliance on tax payers money and the project is actually in progress and will be completed and being used within this year. No false starts or misinformation, this is happening now.
------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 18:39
OLDALIKADOO10 wrote:
Rumour Billy V will be the match day squad on Saturday To get some game time in before the 6 Nations start
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I was told the England players would not be playing all except Billy Vunipola who needs game time for fitness !.it will show where Saracens stand in depth and quality throughout their squad.
Equally it will show where Ealing stand with new players and their integration into the match day team.
------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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Posted By: kempstonblue
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 19:38
Was not intentional...will stand outside and subject myself to a cold shower...
------------- The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused.
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Posted By: kempstonblue
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 19:41
Mark W-J wrote:
kempstonblue wrote:
With seven weeks (March 6th?) until the league commences
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I admire your optimism! |
Not intentional.
Guess a cold shower outside as a punishment if I foolishly believe a season starting before August/September 2021 is going to happen.
------------- The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused.
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Posted By: PiffPaff
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 19:55
Might be difficult think this season "ends" on the 22nd May- then 21//22 to start as per normal (Pandemics allowing)
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Posted By: stadium
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2021 at 09:36
The Premier League this morning are being very cautious about starting again due to safety. This competition should be cancelled.
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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2021 at 13:20
stadium wrote:
The Premier League this morning are being very cautious about starting again due to safety. This competition should be cancelled. |
I presume you mean the Premiership not footballs Premier League?
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2021 at 17:56
Ealing Trailfinders team to play Saracens on Saturday 16th January at 3pm, in Round One of the Trailfinders Challenge Cup: 15 David Johnston 14 Angus Kernohan 13 Fraser Strachan 12 Pat Howard 11 Dean Hammond 10 Craig Willis 9 Craig Hampson 1 Kyle Whyte 2 Alun Walker 3 Elliot Millar Mills 4 Bobby De Wee 5 Simon Linsell 6 Kieran Murphy 7 Adam Korczyk 8 Rayn Smid (c)
Replacements: 16 Michael Van Vuuren 17 Will Davis 18 George Davis 19 Ben West 20 Shane Buckley 21 Guy Thompson 22 Jordan Burns 23 Steven Shingler
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2021 at 17:57
SARACENS BEGIN THEIR TRAILFINDERS CHALLENGE CUP CAMPAIGN ON THE ROAD AT EALING TRAILFINDERS WITH SEVEN FULL INTERNATIONALS IN THE starting XV.England Number 8 Billy Vunipola features in the back row alongside Namibian Janco Venter while Fiji’s Eroni Mawi and Springbok World Cup winner Vincent Koch start at loosehead and tighthead prop respectively. After kicking seven from seven in his last outing, Will Hooley of USA partners Welshman Aled Davies at half-back while Scotland centre Duncan Taylor is in the midfield. SARRIES TAKE ON EALING TRAILFINDERS IN THE TRAILFINDERS CHALLENGE CUP OPENER BEFORE A TRIP TO DONCASTER KNIGHTS.
Hooker Tom Woolstencroft will captain the side and leads a pack which contains three Academy products in Jon Kpoku, Ollie Stonham and Andy Christie. Academy graduates Rotimi Segun, Dom Morris and Elliott Obatoyinbo are selected alongside Sevens star Ben Harris who completes an exciting backline. Former Ealing man Harry Sloan is among the replacements as is lock Llewelyn Jones who has joined Saracens on a two-week loan from Ampthill. Saracens team to take on Ealing Trailfinders: 15 Elliott Obatoyinbo 14 Ben Harris 13 Dom Morris 12 Duncan Taylor 11 Rotimi Segun 10 Will Hooley 9 Aled Davies 1 Eroni Mawi 2 Tom Woolstencroft © 3 Vincent Koch 4 Jon Kpoku 5 Ollie Stonham 6 Janco Venter 7 Andy Christie 8 Billy Vunipola Replacements 16 Kapeli Pifeleti 17 Sam Crean 18 Josh Ibuanokpe 19 Llewelyn Jones 20 Callum Hunter-Hill 21 Tom Whiteley 22 Harry Sloan 23 Charlie Watson
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Posted By: Rich
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2021 at 19:20
Looks like Saracens are setting out to prove that the Championship is not the place for them - expect to see them back in the Prem in September by hook or crook... (emphasis on the crook)
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2021 at 19:56
I will admit it; I am intimidated by that line up. 7 internationals...
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2021 at 21:06
Judging by the players not playing it is a “weak” squad too!
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2021 at 22:14
Rich wrote:
Looks like Saracens are setting out to prove that the Championship is not the place for them - expect to see them back in the Prem in September by hook or crook... (emphasis on the crook) |
Careful Rich that is deemed old news and you run the risk of getting this thread locked . I believe THEY will be go straight back one way or the other. The weak squad has seven internatiols with one player in the team who gets paid individually the entire budget of half the individual teams in the Championship !.
------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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Posted By: Monkey Boy
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2021 at 22:21
How come there’s an Ampthill lad on the bench?
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Posted By: Yeeealing
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2021 at 23:03
Llewelyn Jones 2 weeks loan , Ealing old boy🇳🇬🇳🇬 Was with us a few years with his twin brother .
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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 12:48
OLDALIKADOO10 wrote:
Again an assumption I was having aStrop. Stay safe |
Sadly for you we have the evidence!
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 14:21
Well, the game wasn't cancelled, and I'm watching the live stream now (well done 247.tv).
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Posted By: OLDALIKADOO10
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 14:59
Enjoy. Professional Production on the streaming
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 15:34
Ealing 13 Sarries 9 33 minutes
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 15:36
Ealing 13 Sarries 14 35 minutes
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 15:45
Half Time
Ealing 13 Sarries 14
Close good game so far
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 15:45
Sarries trailed all the way up to 35 minute
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 15:48
castleparknight wrote:
Sarries trailed all the way up to 35 minute |
Gutted not to come away with points just before the half. Ealing forwards had the blinders on and missed huge space on the outside. :( A bit worried about the scrum dominance Sarries seem to have, but overall, to be one point down against Sarries at half time is no mean feat. I'm looking forward to see how the pace changes if/when we bring on Jordan Burns at 9.
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 16:15
Yes, a mistake on when to go wide but a good phase
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 16:19
Ealing try 18 Sarries 14 53rd minute
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 16:20
Ealing 20 Sarries 14
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 16:29
Ealing 20 Sarries 19 (missed kick) 64 minutes
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 16:40
Sarries player in the bin for rest of game
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 16:41
Ealing Try 25 Sarries 19 kick to follow 75 minutes
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 16:42
Converted 27 - 19
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 16:45
Ealing yellow card
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 16:46
Try Sarries - Ealing win the game
27 - 26
Very good game overall
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 16:47
castleparknight wrote:
Try Sarries - Ealing win the game
27 - 26
Very good game overall |
YEEEEEAAALING! Alun Walker was amazing. Threw darts all day, and scored a couple of tries. What a return to rugby after a few months off injured. Very pleased.
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 16:51
Bit of rust there for Sarries but Ealing earned it well done Ealing
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 17:01
Congrats to Ealing. Sarries scrabbling for BPs (2 I think?!) at the end - not quite the start they were hoping for. Does this mean a change of plan with Farrell, George, Daley, Mako 'n' Maro coming in to face Donny next w/e?
(tongue-in-cheek question)
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 17:15
Probably - but hey ho
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: OLDALIKADOO10
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 18:42
Thought the streaming was really good today Just a thought, maybe if all championship clubs do a deal with 247.TV it could provide a valuable revenue stream whilst crowds are not allowed in. Not sure what commercials were in place for today. Ie how much money did Ealing and Saracens make Today As I said just a thought
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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 18:57
A rude awakening for the Sarries fans who think the Championship will be easy.
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Posted By: Trailfinder
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 20:42
A victory not just for Ealing but also the Championship. A full strength Saracens is a different proposition but by getting the win it silences the ring-fencers for the time being. Over to you Donny!
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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 23:58
Trailfinder wrote:
A victory not just for Ealing but also the Championship. A full strength Saracens is a different proposition but by getting the win it silences the ring-fencers for the time being. Over to you Donny! | Well done Ealing, although how many of that team will play for Saracens when/if you meet in the league remains to be seen (5 English internationals otherwise engaged and up to 10 others suspended for Barbarian Covid infringements)
Not sure how the championship is going to start early March unless funds are found for weekly testing of all 12 teams squads not to mention the Lockdown which is unlikely to be lifted before Easter.
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2021 at 08:42
Raider999 wrote:
Trailfinder wrote:
A victory not just for Ealing but also the Championship. A full strength Saracens is a different proposition but by getting the win it silences the ring-fencers for the time being. Over to you Donny! | Well done Ealing, although how many of that team will play for Saracens when/if you meet in the league remains to be seen (5 English internationals otherwise engaged and up to 10 others suspended for Barbarian Covid infringements)
Not sure how the championship is going to start early March unless funds are found for weekly testing of all 12 teams squads not to mention the Lockdown which is unlikely to be lifted before Easter. |
Yes, certainly Sarries can put out a considerably stronger team, though I saw them put out weaker teams last year in the Premiership. I was pretty annoyed to see the following quote from Mark McCall on the BBC
"It's so hard for an international player to play in a game like this and not get frustrated at times - with your team-mates and with the opposition. But I'm really pleased."
What the heck is that supposed to mean? Good to see that Sarries can continuously manage to be unclassy in whatever division they are in, consistent form is important.
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Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2021 at 12:07
Good article in the Sunday Times covering this game and a real attack on the RFU and PL over the way that they have treated the Championship with the cutting of finances, the re-structure including PL A sides being totally ignores and ring fencing. Reading it, it’s almost as if the PL feel threatened by the Championship. The RFU are just too scared of the PL and are ignoring the benefits that the Championship brings to international rugby.
Well done Ealing, great result..... Donny, your turn!!
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Posted By: Greg
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2021 at 14:26
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/55691642%20" rel="nofollow - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/55691642
No mention of the game only how well Billy Vunipola played. How typical of the BBC to avoid any reference whatsoever to the Championship.
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Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2021 at 15:13
Greg wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/55691642%20" rel="nofollow - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/55691642
No mention of the game only how well Billy Vunipola played. How typical of the BBC to avoid any reference whatsoever to the Championship. |
The Rugby Paper report with the head to head contest with opposite number suggests Rayn Smid had the better game.
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2021 at 23:13
kingsheathlad wrote:
Greg wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/55691642%20" rel="nofollow - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/55691642
No mention of the game only how well Billy Vunipola played. How typical of the BBC to avoid any reference whatsoever to the Championship. |
The Rugby Paper report with the head to head contest with opposite number suggests Rayn Smid had the better game. |
He did. Billy was a non-factor except when he knocked on over the line.
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2021 at 15:31
You can not allow Billy Vunipola to get going forward. He was often stopped on receiving the ball and pressurised several times 2/3 times by Rayn Smidt.
------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2021 at 11:15
Yes, I thought Ealing were very good at keeping him out of the game - he was tackled early preventing him getting a head of steam up. Good way to reduce his impact.
Anyhow, he is looking forward to travelling up North to get some mud on his knees and elbows this week. Clearly never bothered watching the England Ladies play at Castle Park otherwise he would know we have a hybrid pitch and mud is the last thing he will be seeing. You would think he would do his homework before opening his mouth. Or maybe to confuse him we switch play to our AstroTurf pitch.
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2021 at 21:18
News just in via Twitter...
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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2021 at 21:34
islander wrote:
<div id="ypm-extension" ="ypm-extension">News just in via Twitter...
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Saracens' match against @DoncasterKnight in the Trailfinders Challenge Cup has been cancelled.
We are without 34 players for the match at Castle Park on Saturday because of injury, suspension and isolation and are therefore unable to field a side. </span><span ="-901oao -16my406 r-poiln3 r-bcqeeo r-qvutc0" style="color: inherit; font: inherit; white-space: inherit; border: 0px solid black; -sizing: border-; display: inline; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; min-width: 0px;"> </span> |
I wonder if they would have played if they had won last week
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Posted By: marigold
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2021 at 22:50
Sadly for me this is not a great omen for the Championship being played. If the full time clubs in the Championship, where players movements are able to be controlled to a large extent, can only manage one week of matches before a game is called off due to Covid, what chance do the non full time clubs, who have players who go out to work each day in general society, have of keeping the virus at bay. If ,as in this case, it is Saracens who gain no points from a match due to Covid and this prevented them from getting promoted, would they not contest this decision in the courtroom? Or would they, PRL and the RFU allow them to spend a second season in the Championship?
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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2021 at 22:54
islander wrote:
News just in via Twitter...
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How convenient.....
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Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2021 at 11:14
Robb wrote:
islander wrote:
News just in via Twitter...
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How convenient.....
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/55763456" rel="nofollow - Saracens: Covid-19 cases cause cancellation of Doncaster friendly
Saracens forfeit match, Doncaster awarded four points and Saracens two.
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2021 at 11:27
Steve@Mose wrote:
Robb wrote:
islander wrote:
News just in via Twitter...
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How convenient.....
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/55763456" rel="nofollow - Saracens: Covid-19 cases cause cancellation of Doncaster friendly
Saracens forfeit match, Doncaster awarded four points and Saracens two. | Congrats Donny. Deserved by Sarries due to all of the suspended players...not the covid obviously.
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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2021 at 11:36
gerg_861 wrote:
Steve@Mose wrote:
Robb wrote:
islander wrote:
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Saracens' match against @DoncasterKnight in the Trailfinders Challenge Cup has been cancelled.
We are without 34 players for the match at Castle Park on Saturday because of injury, suspension and isolation and are therefore unable to field a side. </span><span ="-901oao="" -16my406="" r-poiln3="" r-bcqeeo="" r-qvutc0"="" style="color: inherit; font: inherit; white-space: inherit; border: 0px solid black; -sizing: border-; display: inline; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; min-width: 0px;"> </span> |
How convenient.....
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/55763456" rel="nofollow - Saracens: Covid-19 cases cause cancellation of Doncaster friendly
Saracens forfeit match, Doncaster awarded four points and Saracens two. | Congrats Donny. Deserved by Sarries due to all of the suspended players...not the covid obviously. |
Perhaps someone can confirm - as Saracens mention the suspended players as part of the absentees, I am presuming this meaningless competition counts towards their suspensions?
If so, no wonder Saracens wanted to take part.
I am very surprised that games that are essentially friendliest count! - presumably they will no be suspended for another match as this didn't take place?
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Posted By: OLDALIKADOO10
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2021 at 13:50
My understanding is that the suspensions are for league games and not friendlies Did all players sanctioned repay their appearance fee? It only mentioned the circumstances, games bans, Some charity donations and community work etc.
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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2021 at 14:52
OLDALIKADOO10 wrote:
My understanding is that the suspensions are for league games and not friendliesDid all players sanctioned repay their appearance fee? It only mentioned the circumstances, games bans, Some charity donations and community work etc.
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You may well be correct, otherwise teams would arrange meaningless friendliest to count to a players suspension.
As it was mentioned as part of the reason for not being able to field a side, I would therefore presume a player is suspended until his team have played x number of league/cup matches.
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2021 at 16:30
Let's hope Doncast beat Ealing.
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2021 at 17:20
Camquin wrote:
Let's hope Doncast beat Ealing.
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Couldn't agree more 😉
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Posted By: OLDALIKADOO10
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2021 at 19:20
I’m looking forward to Donny v Ealing as I know lots re Ealing and nothing with regards to what Donny have been building on the pitch. I think Donny are a sleeping giant and with Yorkshire being the shoe in for relegation last season, they took “a year off” prepare for this season
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Posted By: knightandday
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2021 at 19:27
OLDALIKADOO10 wrote:
I’m looking forward to Donny v Ealing as I know lots re Ealingand nothing with regards to what Donny have been building on the pitch. I think Donny are a sleeping giant and with Yorkshire being the shoe in for relegation last season, they took “a year off” prepare for this season |
Although Clive was an excellent coach I think it was more that we had gone stale and very predictable, rather than coasting
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2021 at 19:32
OLDALIKADOO10 wrote:
I’m looking forward to Donny v Ealing as I know lots re Ealingand nothing with regards to what Donny have been building on the pitch. I think Donny are a sleeping giant and with Yorkshire being the shoe in for relegation last season, they took “a year off” prepare for this season |
No slight on Donny, but to be a 'sleeping giant' you need to have once been a giant. The term probably fits the likes of Mose or Welsh rather better.
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2021 at 19:40
Kimbo wrote:
OLDALIKADOO10 wrote:
I’m looking forward to Donny v Ealing as I know lots re Ealingand nothing with regards to what Donny have been building on the pitch. I think Donny are a sleeping giant and with Yorkshire being the shoe in for relegation last season, they took “a year off” prepare for this season |
No slight on Donny, but to be a 'sleeping giant' you need to have once been a giant. The term probably fits the likes of Mose or Welsh rather better. |
Or Cov mate
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2021 at 19:44
KnightsBoy wrote:
Kimbo wrote:
OLDALIKADOO10 wrote:
I’m looking forward to Donny v Ealing as I know lots re Ealingand nothing with regards to what Donny have been building on the pitch. I think Donny are a sleeping giant and with Yorkshire being the shoe in for relegation last season, they took “a year off” prepare for this season |
No slight on Donny, but to be a 'sleeping giant' you need to have once been a giant. The term probably fits the likes of Mose or Welsh rather better. |
Or Cov mate |
I'll leave that to others to say ![Wink Wink](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2021 at 19:48
KnightsBoy wrote:
Camquin wrote:
Let's hope Doncast beat Ealing.
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Couldn't agree more 😉 |
I couldn't disagree more! ![LOL LOL](smileys/smiley36.gif)
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2021 at 19:50
Raider999 wrote:
OLDALIKADOO10 wrote:
My understanding is that the suspensions are for league games and not friendliesDid all players sanctioned repay their appearance fee? It only mentioned the circumstances, games bans, Some charity donations and community work etc.
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You may well be correct, otherwise teams would arrange meaningless friendliest to count to a players suspension.
As it was mentioned as part of the reason for not being able to field a side, I would therefore presume a player is suspended until his team have played x number of league/cup matches. |
This was covered by Ugo Monye on a podcast this week - apparently to "count" the game can be a friendly, but you have to have an appropriate officiating crew. Seems open to manipulation, but I'd guess he'd know how it worked.
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Posted By: OLDALIKADOO10
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2021 at 20:09
I heard or read somewhere that Saracens in their defence of their players tried to argue friendlies should count. I believe the RFU commended them on their argument, but declined their offer
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2021 at 19:21
Ealing Trailfinders team to play Doncaster Knights at Castle Park on Saturday 30th January at 3pm in the Trailfinders Challenge Cup:
15 Luke Daniels 14 James Cordy Redden 13 David Johnston 12 Pat Howard 11 Dean Hammond 10 Craig Willis 9 Craig Hampson 1 Will Davis 2 Alun Walker 3 Elliot Millar Mills 4 Bobby de Wee 5 Ben West 6 Kieran Murphy 7 Guy Thompson 8 Rayn Smid (c)
Replacements: 16 Shaun Malton 17 Elliot Chilvers 18 George Davis 19 Abongile Nonkontwana 20 Adam Korczyk 21 Jordan Burns 22 Steven Shingler 23 Fraser Strachan
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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2021 at 07:38
Knights XV | 15 Tom Bacon, 14 Kyle Evans, 13 Charlie Foley, 12 Mark Best, 11 Aaron Reed, 10 Sam Olver, 9 James Mitchell, 1 Conrad Cade, 2 Will Holling, 3 Joe Jones, 4 Matt Challinor ©, 5 Matt Smith, 6 Will Britton, 7 Sam Graham, 8 Guido Volpi. Replacements | 16 Josh Pieterse, 17 George Roberts 18 Andrew Foster, 19 John Kelly, 20 Jack Davies, 21 Gus Warr, 22 Billy McBryde, 23 Harry Strong.
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2021 at 14:31
Stream up and running perfectly again. 247 sport really seem to know what they are doing.
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