Bill Beaumont County Championship.
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Topic: Bill Beaumont County Championship.
Posted By: kingsheathlad
Subject: Bill Beaumont County Championship.
Date Posted: 06 May 2023 at 18:26
May 6th. Leicestershire 14 North Midlands 62.
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Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 06 May 2023 at 18:39
Posted By: Rabbie Burns
Date Posted: 06 May 2023 at 22:43
Kent 20-15Hampshire
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Posted By: 'Hopper
Date Posted: 07 May 2023 at 09:41
Cheshire 19 Lancashire 54
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Posted By: Deva Delinquent
Date Posted: 07 May 2023 at 09:54
Didn't realise there was a thread.
Cheshire 21 Lancashire 54.
Cheshire soundly beaten. Went 5-0 down in the first minute, but then had some good pressure for the next 10-15 mins including three or four kicks to the corner, the net result was 0 points.
Lancashire came out of the traps in the second half and put the game to bed with a few quick tries. A red for each side - Gavin Woods (Lymm) and David Fairbrother (Fylde) - seemed to even things up a bit, but Lancashire had enough on the board to see out Cheshire's late fightback.
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 07 May 2023 at 10:42
Good win for Cornwall 28-19, can't see a figure but looked like huge crowd at Redruth...
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Posted By: Count Ford
Date Posted: 07 May 2023 at 11:01
Cheshire certainly going to be suffering from the lack of Caldy players this year who have been the main contributors over the last few years
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 07 May 2023 at 12:08
A lot of counties are suffering from the loss of players at NCA cubs.
Even players at the lower XVs are now disqualified - even if that team plays at level 8.
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Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 07 May 2023 at 12:43
Should that be the case across all counties?
Cornwall v Somerset was certainly littered with Nat 1 and Nat 2 players yesterday (Cinderford, Redruth, Exeter Uni, Hornets, TJs, Old Reds and Camborne now also of course).
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Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 07 May 2023 at 13:37
If anyone is at the Yorkshire game please get me a programme.
I'm watching Yorkshire Women at Huddersfield.
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Posted By: cheshire exile
Date Posted: 07 May 2023 at 13:43
“Littered with Nat1 players” a slight exaggeration; I’m only aware of Cornwall scrum half Mike Austin (Cinderford) from Nat1.
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Posted By: Count Ford
Date Posted: 07 May 2023 at 14:38
As far as I'm aware teams in the Bill Beaumont can still use National League players. It's just the fact that Caldys promotion to the championship now excludes them
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 07 May 2023 at 14:41
It may only be division 2, I know Easter Counties are not permitted National League players. And as an internal rule, all EC players had to play in the inter county matches between Cambs, Norfolk and Suffolk.
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Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 07 May 2023 at 14:50
Half time at a sunny Huddersfield. Yorkshire Women lead North Midlands 34-0.
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Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 07 May 2023 at 15:47
Richard Lowther wrote:
Half time at a sunny Huddersfield. Yorkshire Women lead North Midlands 34-0. |
65-0 full time score.
Good game, well played Yorkshire.
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Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 07 May 2023 at 16:50
Yorkshire men won 70-19 at Hertfordshire.
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Posted By: Rabbie Burns
Date Posted: 07 May 2023 at 19:20
I think it may be level 4 also as several Blackheath players turned out for Kent this year and didn’t last year
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Posted By: carlos fandango
Date Posted: 07 May 2023 at 20:33
No Bishops Stortford players in the Herts team. Almost all the team were from level 4,5, and 6.
Most haven't played for over a month. No wonder they got hammered.
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Posted By: SmilingD
Date Posted: 07 May 2023 at 20:35
Division 1 is level 3 and below only. Division 2 and 3 are level 5 and below. But what matters is what level the club is at, so even if you are never anywhere near the 1st team squad you can't play if the 1st team are at too high a level.
And Camquin is right, in Eastern Counties our policy is that you have to play in our internal county championship to be eligible for selection for the BB Cup.
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Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 07 May 2023 at 21:00
If you read the message again properly, you'll appreciate that both sides were indeed littered with Nat 1 AND Nat 2 players . I haven't got an issue with it a all but it should be consistent across the counties to make for a good competitive competition.
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Posted By: PiffPaff
Date Posted: 07 May 2023 at 21:04
I believe the player eligibility rule in the U20 County Championship was a complete and utter clusterf...
Looking at the final tables I think 11 County's got docked points and several walkovers.....
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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 08 May 2023 at 11:01
Se7en wrote:
If you read the message again properly, you'll appreciate that both sides were indeed littered with Nat 1 AND Nat 2 players . I haven't got an issue with it a all but it should be consistent across the counties to make for a good competitive competition. |
Totally agree - how does a county reach the top division if they cannot field any of their better players?
Any player level 3 and below should be allowed to represent their county irrespective of which division the county is in
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Posted By: RedPete
Date Posted: 08 May 2023 at 11:31
I think there were at least 2 Taunton players who really wanted to play for Dorset but could not as they were level 3 players, I expect they could have played for Somerset but they were Dorset born & bred so didn't really want to
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Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 09 May 2023 at 15:42
Raider999 wrote:
Se7en wrote:
If you read the message again properly, you'll appreciate that both sides were indeed littered with Nat 1 AND Nat 2 players . I haven't got an issue with it a all but it should be consistent across the counties to make for a good competitive competition. |
Totally agree - how does a county reach the top division if they cannot field any of their better players?
Any player level 3 and below should be allowed to represent their county irrespective of which division the county is in |
There was an article in TRP a month or two ago saying at the CC are being re-organised. If I remember correctly out goes promotion and relegation and each season a county will be able to 'decide' which level it wants to play at based on the quality of the players available. I think - although I may be wrong - that all players in the Community game would become eligable - regardless of the level they are playing in.
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Posted By: SmilingD
Date Posted: 09 May 2023 at 19:02
That was more or less the position this year, Richard. CBs were asked what level they believed they could sustain based on the clubs that were in their area. Some CBs rightly (for them) want to pursue the highest level they can and they are mostly in Division 1 where they can play anyone registered at National 1 downwards.
In Eastern Counties we have chosen to spread our net more widely: in Division 2 we are only able to select from Level 5 down (which is hard lines on players at Cambridge, Bury St Edmunds and North Walsham - who are excluded even if they are not in the first team squad) - but does mean that we have 15 different clubs represented in our squad this season. We are determined to rebuild the connection between the players across our patch and CB representative rugby.
And with Cambridge going up to the Championship and therefore not even eligible at Division 1, I doubt we will be changing our position for next season.
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Posted By: Golden Jackal
Date Posted: 11 May 2023 at 15:27
SmilingD, but no players from Level 5 clubs (Colchester, Sudbury, Shelford) are represented...perhaps those players from Level 6, 7 and below feel connected to the CB, but clearly those above do not!
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Posted By: SmilingD
Date Posted: 12 May 2023 at 17:47
There are players from all three of those clubs in the squad for tomorrow's match. And there were players from all three of those clubs in last week's squad. Along with another twelve clubs represented in our championship squad.
Of course we would like more players to put themselves forward, but the bottom line is that we are picking from players who want to play enough to make themselves available - we aren't twisting anybody arm to extend their season reluctantly.
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Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 13 May 2023 at 15:42
First part of the double header at Doncaster Yorkshire Women 19, Leicestershire Women 40.
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Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 13 May 2023 at 16:41
Richard Lowther wrote:
First part of the double header at Doncaster Yorkshire Women 19, Leicestershire Women 40. |
Half time men's game Yorkshire lead 42-5.
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Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 13 May 2023 at 16:53
May 13. East Midlands 23 North Midlands 21.
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Posted By: Happy
Date Posted: 13 May 2023 at 17:25
Kent 43 Somerset 7 I think
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Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 13 May 2023 at 17:35
Richard Lowther wrote:
Richard Lowther wrote:
First part of the double header at Doncaster Yorkshire Women 19, Leicestershire Women 40. |
Half time men's game Yorkshire lead 42-5. |
Full time Yorkshire won 87-19.
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Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 13 May 2023 at 20:02
I believe Yorkshire's win was their biggest in terms of both points scored and winning margin. The top 10.
Sat 13/05/2023 |
Cheshire |
87 |
19 |
Sat 07/12/1996 |
Staffordshire |
77 |
15 |
Sun 23/04/2000 |
Leicestershire |
76 |
10 |
Sun 07/05/2023 |
Hertfordshire |
70 |
19 |
Sat 14/12/1996 |
North Midlands |
69 |
17 |
Wed 04/11/1987 |
Cheshire |
68 |
8 |
Sat 17/05/2003 |
Durham |
62 |
0 |
Sat 20/05/2017 |
Eastern Counties |
61 |
15 |
Sat 04/05/2019 |
Northumberland |
59 |
3 |
Sat 15/12/1990 |
North Midlands |
57 |
4 |
Sat 05/05/2007 |
North
Midlands |
57 |
19 |
Sat 23/05/2009 |
Warwickshire |
56 |
3 |
Sat 21/05/2011 |
Warwickshire |
54 |
10 |
Sat 13/12/1997 |
Staffordshire |
52 |
7 |
Sat 07/05/2022 |
Northumberland |
52 |
40 |
Wed 14/10/1970 |
Universities Athletic Union |
51 |
8 |
Sat 10/04/1999 |
Staffordshire |
50 |
0 |
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 14 May 2023 at 08:21
Yorkshire pretty much smashed Cheshire off the park. Sam Pocklington (scrum half) bossed it and scored some sublime tries. An entertaining afternoon.
The Yorkshire ladies did very well against Leicester Tigers ladies. Although the Tigers fitness shone through in the later stages to allow them the win. Rumour has it that the Tigers will soon get a berth at the Premiership 15s table (potentially 24/25 season) so watch out the other counties this could be the team to beat.
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Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 14 May 2023 at 11:47
castleparknight wrote:
(Yorkshire pretty much smashed Cheshire off the park. Sam Pocklington (scrum half) bossed it and scored some sublime tries. An entertaining afternoon.) quote
It’s a reality check time next week at Park Lane for the Mens White Rose Squad.😂😂😂😂I wish I hadn’t said that now😂😂😂😮😮
All the best
ST
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Posted By: Jasper99
Date Posted: 14 May 2023 at 11:53
I think Leicestershire woman have already lost to Lancashire women so not sure they'll be the team to beat?
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Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 16 May 2023 at 22:07
Sedge Tiger wrote:
castleparknight wrote:
(Yorkshire pretty much smashed Cheshire off the park. Sam Pocklington (scrum half) bossed it and scored some sublime tries. An entertaining afternoon.) quote
It’s a reality check time next week at Park Lane for the Mens White Rose Squad.😂😂😂😂I wish I hadn’t said that now😂😂😂😮😮
All the best
ST
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I presume you will be at the game on Saturday? I am coming across to hopefully see you eat humble pie 😊
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Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 20 May 2023 at 14:43
Lovely sunny day here a Park Lane a decent crowd gathering for a much anticipated Red Rose victory ![Big smile Big smile](smileys/smiley4.gif) ![LOL LOL](smileys/smiley36.gif)
Joking aside should be a great game
All the best
ST
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Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 20 May 2023 at 14:53
Richard Lowther wrote:
Sedge Tiger wrote:
castleparknight wrote:
(Yorkshire pretty much smashed Cheshire off the park. Sam Pocklington (scrum half) bossed it and scored some sublime tries. An entertaining afternoon.) quote
It’s a reality check time next week at Park Lane for the Mens White Rose Squad.😂😂😂😂I wish I hadn’t said that now😂😂😂😮😮
All the best
ST
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I presume you will be at the game on Saturday? I am coming across to hopefully see you eat humble pie 😊 |
My favourite type of pie Richard 😂😂😂😂😂
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Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 20 May 2023 at 15:05
You were saying!!! Lancashire 7 Yorks 0
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Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 20 May 2023 at 15:39
Get the Pie out Richard 😂😂😂😂
Lancashire 13 Yorkshire 23 39 Mins
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Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 20 May 2023 at 15:40
Sedge Tiger wrote:
Get the Pie out Richard 😂😂😂😂
Lancashire 13 Yorkshire 23 39 Mins |
Try of the season contender that one!
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Posted By: Happy
Date Posted: 20 May 2023 at 15:44
Kent beat Cornwall 31-34 .....that is some result for Kent
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Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 20 May 2023 at 16:34
Last 3 Minutes. Lancashire 29 Yorkshire 28. Cliff hanger. Game stopped due to injury. Sam Gaudie has had a huge impact Git Yorks
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Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 20 May 2023 at 16:39
Game over Lancashire 29 Yorkshire 28 Fulltime
All done without any Sedge boys who are on a stag do
Well played Yorkshire
All the best
ST
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Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 20 May 2023 at 19:13
Congratulations Lancashire and good luck next week.
Yorkshire gave away too many penalties and it wore us down and our backs failed to fire as in previous games.
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Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 20 May 2023 at 19:24
North Midlands 38 Eastern Counties 26.
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Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 20 May 2023 at 19:32
Richard Lowther wrote:
Congratulations Lancashire and good luck next week.
Yorkshire gave away too many penalties and it wore us down and our backs failed to fire as in previous games. |
To be fair Richard I thought Lancashire were struggling coughing up loads of possession. In the second half Yorkshire looked the most likely to win the game but Lancashire did enough.
I hope you enjoyed your day and all from Yorks had a safe journey home across the hill.
Have a great summer
All the best
ST
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Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 27 May 2023 at 16:49
Durham 22 North Midlands 17.
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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 28 May 2023 at 17:59
Kent Champions!!!!!!!!!
Though I have to say, that was the worst kicking performance I have ever seen, from the Lancashire 10.
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Posted By: 'Hopper
Date Posted: 28 May 2023 at 18:39
Robb wrote:
Kent Champions!!!!!!!!!
Though I have to say, that was the worst kicking performance I have ever seen, from the Lancashire 10.
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Nearly as bad as the match commentary on Utube ![Embarrassed Embarrassed](smileys/smiley9.gif)
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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 28 May 2023 at 18:58
'Hopper wrote:
Robb wrote:
Kent Champions!!!!!!!!!
Though I have to say, that was the worst kicking performance I have ever seen, from the Lancashire 10.
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Nearly as bad as the match commentary on Utube ![Embarrassed Embarrassed](smileys/smiley9.gif)
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They've always been like that for community rugby. Never read the teamsheets properly, only have 1 little tidbit about certain players and talk crap about them and their graphical clock doesn't match with the referee's watch. What i'd say is also bad is that for community finals at HQ, they don't have video refs.
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Posted By: Happy
Date Posted: 28 May 2023 at 19:21
Some performance from Kent to come back into it !! Excellent character I thought
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