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Topic: Round 4 Officials, Team News, Scores
Posted By: corporalcarrot
Subject: Round 4 Officials, Team News, Scores
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2019 at 09:14

Championship Cup Match Officials

Newcastle Falcons vs Hartpury
Referee: Hamish Smales
Assistant referees: Gregg Dawson, Simon Park
Assessor: Andrew Vertigan

Yorkshire Carnegie vs London Scottish
Referee: Alex Thomas
Assistant referees: Jamie Leahy, Peter Allan
Assessor: Peter Farrell

Ealing Trailfinders vs Bedford Blues
Referee: Jack Makepeace
Assistant referees: Ian Bibey, Robert Warburton
Assessor: Sam Collins & Peter Huckle

Jersey vs Doncaster Knights
Referee: Michael Hudson
Assistant referees: Roy Maybank, Lionel Spooner
Assessor: Lloyd Jackson

Coventry vs Ampthill
Referee: Matthew Turvey
Assistant referees: Peter Brunt, Nick Marshall
Assessor: Stephen Leyshon

Cornish Pirates vs Nottingham
Referee: Joe James
Assistant referees: Simon Adams, Adam Wookey
Assessor: Craig Maxwell-Keys

 



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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2019 at 18:00

Newcastle Falcons team v Hartpury University RFC (Friday, 8pm, Kingston Park Stadium)

15 Tim Swiel

14 Alex Tait

13 Gareth Owen

12 Josh Matavesi

11 Cooper Vuna

10 Toby Flood (captain)

9 Sonatane Takulua

1 Sam Lockwood

2 Jamie Blamire

3 Rodney Ah you

4 Darren Barry

5 Greg Peterson

6 Will Welch

7 John Hardie

8 Philip van der Walt

Replacements

16 George McGuigan

17 Adam Brocklebank

18 Logovi'i Mulipola

19 Rob Farrar

20 Simon Uzokwe

21 Cameron Nordli-Kelemeti

22 Joel Hodgson

23 Ben Stevenson

Hartpury University RFC

15 Mike Wilcox

14 Jacob Morris

13 Dan Koster

12 Joe Margetts

11 Sam Goatley

10 Tiff Eden

9 Harry Cochrane

1 Des Merrey

2 Beck Cutting

3 Mike Flook

4 Joe Batley

5 Will Safe

6 Aaron Hinkley

7 Max Clementson (captain)

8 Sam Graham

Replacements

16 Will Crane

17 Alex Seville

18 Ashley Challenger

19 Seb Nagle-Taylor

20 Jack Preece

21 Luke Carter

22 Charlie Powell

23 Jack Reeves

Referee: Hamish Smales



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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2019 at 22:59
Falcons look to be taking this seriously.


Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2019 at 12:11
Quite a lot of changes in the Coventry team, as players who have been out on loan get their chances...

COVENTRY RUGBY TEAM TO PLAY AMPTHILL
Championship Cup Round 4
Butts Park Arena
Saturday, November 30th, 2019
Kick off 3:00pm

15 Dan Lewis; Season debut
14 James Martin, club debut
13 Rob Knox,
12 Will Owen,
11 Henry Purdy; Club debut
10 Tony Fenner (capt),
9 Will Flinn; season debut

1 Toby Trinder,
2 Joe Buckle,
3 Luc Jeannot, season debut
4 James Voss,
5 Alex Woolford,
6 Ben Nutley,
7 Jack Ram,
8 Senitiki Nayalo

16 Jimmy Stevens, fr2 DR joiner with two hookers injured
17 James Gibbons, fr
18 Gareth Denman, fr
19 Nile Dacres,
20 Ben Adams, season debut
21 Pete White,
22 Will Maisey,
23 David Halaifonua


Posted By: Fat Albert
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2019 at 12:12
Ampthill squad for Coventry, much stronger than I expected

15 Lynch
14 Asiedu
13 Sage Return from injury
12 Hanks
11 Baker
10 Grimoldby
9 Fukofuka

1 Tonga'uiha
2 Blackmore
3 Pupuma
4 Burgess Season debut
5 Williams
6 Langley
7 Dominguez
8 Molitika

16 Ward
17 Lutui
18 Christie
19 Johnson
20 Hudson
21 Bercis
22 Veenendaal
23 Bordoli Return from injury


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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2019 at 12:23

KNIGHTS XV:

15. Steve McColl 14. Howard Packman 13. Lloyd Hayes 12. Charlie Foley 11. Curtis Wilson 10. Sam Olver 9. Tom James 1. Marc Thomas 2. George Edgson 3. Andy Foster 4. Matt Challinor 5. Morgan Eames 6. Wian Conradie 7. Michael Hills © 8. Sam Moore

 Replacements:

16. Ben Hunter, 17. Robin Hislop, 18. Dan Suter, 19. Joe Sproston, 20. Will Holling, 21. Gus Warr, 22. Kyle Evans , 23 Sam Pocklington

 




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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2019 at 16:25
Ealing Trailfinders team to play Bedford Blues on Saturday 30th November in Round Four of the Championship Cup at Trailfinders Sports Club: Nice to see Shane Buckley get a run out finally, otherwise a solid side.


15 Tommy Bell 14 Elijah Niko 13 David Johnston 12 Harry Sloan 11 Reon Joseph 10 Craig Willis 9 Nathan Fowles 1 Jordan Els 2 Matt Cornish 3 Elliot Millar Mills 4 Sam Dickinson 5 James Cannon 6 Andrew Durutalo 7 Jordy Reid 8 Rayn Smid (c) 

16 Alun Walker 17 Will Davis 18 Craig Trenier 19 Ben West 20 Kieran Murphy 21 Shane Buckley 22 Craig Hampson 23 Lewis Jones 


Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2019 at 16:47
Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:



<span style="mso-fareast-:EN-GB">KNIGHTS XV: </span><span style="mso-bidi-font-size:8.5pt;mso-fareast-:EN-GB"></span>



<span style="mso-bidi-font-size:8.5pt;mso-fareast-: EN-GB">15. Steve McColl 14. Howard Packman 13. Lloyd Hayes 12. Charlie Foley 11.
Curtis Wilson 10. Sam Olver 9. Tom James 1. Marc Thomas 2. George Edgson 3.
Andy Foster 4. Matt Challinor 5. Morgan Eames 6. Wian Conradie 7. Michael Hills
© 8. Sam Moore</span>



<span style="mso-bidi-font-size:8.5pt;mso-fareast-: EN-GB"> </span><span style="mso-fareast-:EN-GB">Replacements:</span><span style="mso-bidi-font-size:8.5pt;mso-fareast-:EN-GB"></span>



<span style="mso-bidi-font-size:8.5pt;mso-fareast-: EN-GB">16. Ben Hunter, 17. Robin Hislop, 18. Dan Suter, 19. Joe Sproston, 20. Will
Holling, 21. Gus Warr, 22. Kyle Evans , 23 Sam Pocklington</span>



 









This is about as strong a side as Jersey can put out considering the injury issues in the backs. Hopefully, these will ease in the run up to Christmas.


Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2019 at 18:58
Jersey & Donny are both down to the bare bones but Quiggley is a HUGE loss for Donny. In the first half in the league match he was outstanding and Jersey pulled away on the scoreboard when he was replaced. Given the soft pitch and predicted weather it will be a match for the packs tomorrow and although it doesn't reflect the real strength of the two clubs Jersey should dominate up front tomorrow particularly when the forward subs come into play. I hope both sides qualify for the quarter finals they are well matched with everyone fit imo..

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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2019 at 20:38


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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2019 at 20:41
Very strong bench with what could be considered our strongest front row of Will Davis, Craig Trenier and Alan Walker. Keiran Murphy is the best flanker we have in my opinion.

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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 13:07
Easy win for Falcons last night, 50-10 v Hartpury- they now have 19pts although ET & LS could match that figure by close of play today...


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 15:13
Cov 7-0 Amps 10 mins (Owen/Fenner)

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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 15:16
Cov 12-0 Amps 15 mins (Nutley)

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Our City,
Our Club


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 15:27
Cov 19 0 Amps 24 mins Nutley/Fenner

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Our Club


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 15:29
Cov 19-7 Amps. 28 mins

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Our City,
Our Club


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 15:33
Amps YC 33 mins

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Our City,
Our Club


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 15:35
Cov 24-7 Amps. 34 mins Flinn. 4th try.

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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 15:36
Ealing 38 - Bedford 7 at 36 minutes (I think) scoreboard broke.


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 15:43
Cov 24-7 Amps HT

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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 15:47
Cov youngsters showing up well. Flinn with a try. Lewis looking very incisive from FB. Jeannot comfortable in the front row.
Two Cov 'tries' chalked off as held up.

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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 15:48
Ealing 52 - Bedford 14 HT. One way traffic. Great expansive rugby by Ealing.


Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 15:53
Jersey10 Donny. 7 ht

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Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!


Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 15:54
Jersey get the wind 2nd half

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Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 16:01
Cov 29-7 Amps. 46 mins. Nayalo

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Our Club


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 16:04
Cov 36-7 Amps. Flinn/Maisey

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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 16:06
59 - 12 at Vallis Way. 42 min. Sorry about the wrong HT score. As before, no scoreboard.


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 16:06
Cov 43-7 Amps. Knox/Maisey

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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 16:10
Jersey 13 Donny 12

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Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 16:18
Cov 43-14 Amps

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Our Club


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 16:24
Cov 50-14 Amps.Purdy

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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 16:24
Ealing 66 - Bedford 17. About 61 minutes. Lots of subs on now. Bedford just kicked the restart into touch about 2 meters from the halfway line. No wind.


Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 16:28
Ealing 73 - Bedford 17. Maybe 15 minutes left?


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 16:31
Cov 57-14 Amps.Pen try & YC

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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 16:33
Ealing 80 - Bedford 17. Maybe 10 left. Ealing has had two tries called back when Sir inexplicably stopped play during advantage as well. Very, very poor officiating.


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 16:34
Cov 64-14 Amps.Lewis/Maisey

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Our Club


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 16:37
Cov 64-19 Amps.

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Our Club


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 16:40
Cov 64-26 Amps. 5-1 FT

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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 16:41
Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Ealing 80 - Bedford 17. Maybe 10 left. Ealing has had two tries called back when Sir inexplicably stopped play during advantage as well. Very, very poor officiating.
FT, same score. Bedford should thank the RFU for keeping Leeds up.


Posted By: Hoffee
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 17:07
Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Ealing 80 - Bedford 17. Maybe 10 left. Ealing has had two tries called back when Sir inexplicably stopped play during advantage as well. Very, very poor officiating.


Scores 80 points and still complains about the officiating... Bizarre


Posted By: Dan Gleebles
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 17:28


Posted By: Cricks at 2
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 17:37
Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Ealing 80 - Bedford 17. Maybe 10 left. Ealing has had two tries called back when Sir inexplicably stopped play during advantage as well. Very, very poor officiating.
FT, same score. Bedford should thank the RFU for keeping Leeds up.
Whats all that about Gerg? Huckleberryly Pear on triumphalism? If you are going to report, do it, leave the afters out.


Posted By: Cricks at 2
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 17:39
How does ‘dr-unk on’ get a Huckleberry pear?


Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 17:40
What was the final score in Jersey?... just so that I can relay the full facts to the fine folk of Doncaster in the Mercury tonight 😁


Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 17:51
Originally posted by Hoffee Hoffee wrote:

Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Ealing 80 - Bedford 17. Maybe 10 left. Ealing has had two tries called back when Sir inexplicably stopped play during advantage as well. Very, very poor officiating.


Scores 80 points and still complains about the officiating... Bizarre
Officiating quality has nothing to do with the score. Consider how bad it had to be for me to comment on it with that kind of score.


Posted By: Dan Gleebles
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 18:01
Or you could just be wrong.


Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 18:07
Originally posted by Dan Gleebles Dan Gleebles wrote:

Or you could just be wrong.


Ah, so the Bedford fans are just as sour as your players, who booted the ball off the field petulantly, and spiked the ball off the field in a fit of pique neither of which even resulted in the Blues being marched back ten. I guess I will also mention the episode where the Ealing 14 followed the ref's instructions on a conversion challenge, then was penalized for following the instructions. If you were there, then feel free to refute me by citing some examples, otherwise, please just accept that the officiating was poor.


Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 18:09
No complaints abpout Matt Turvey's offciating at Coventry today.

That would be because the poor fellow had a puncture on the M1, so arrived late, and the rest of the official team rotated and covered for him.


Posted By: Bluesman11
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 18:11
At least one of the tries was brought back because Ealing committed an offence (one I think was crossing) subsequently to the advantage being given but before the try was scored; therefore back for original advantage. I’m afraid you’re not always more knowledgeable than the man in the middle. Very strange comments to make in the wake of a thumping win! I think there was actually one time where he blew for a pen and then Ealing scored just after the pen was awarded, but he let the try stand anyway. Perhaps I missed a quick tap being taken but the game was long gone at this point anyway .

And if you’re going to have a dig at Bedford being thankful as only Yorkshire are keeping us from relegation, well Ealing should be thankful to Mike Gooley as he is the only thing keeping them from relegation. Ealing have a fantastic team and played some absolutely scintillating rugby today, but still only a few hundred people were rattling around in a ground devoid of any atmosphere. Bedford would kill to have a team that couple produce rugby like that! It’s only going to get harder to attract people when London Irish move down the road next year too.

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Posted By: Dan Gleebles
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 18:19
Sour? Meow.


Posted By: Dan Gleebles
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 18:26
Looks like I enjoyed the game more than you gerg.


Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 18:26
Originally posted by Brizzer Brizzer wrote:

What was the final score in Jersey?... just so that I can relay the full facts to the fine folk of Doncaster in the Mercury tonight 😁
 

to answer your Q Brizzer it was 27-17, which importantly meant 5-0 on points and the Reds now 12-10 ahead of the Knights in the pool standings with 2 to play. There wasn't much in it, but Reds had the edge in the forwards I'd say and took their chances, a super score by the teenage loanee from Gloucester the pick of them... 


Posted By: Bluesman11
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 18:28
Just to be clear, are you insinuating you genuinely believe a qualified referee was playing advantage to Ealing, waited until they had broken through to score a try and then decided to bring back play for the original penalty for no reason whatsoever? Why would he do this? What logical reason would there be for doing it? You absolutely may disagree with the ref if he has seen an infringement in the build up that you don’t agree with, but to suggest he’s just brought play back for no reason when Ealing were away to score is just absurd. I dread to think what the comments about the ref will be like if Ealing slip up again this season!

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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 18:42
Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by Brizzer Brizzer wrote:

What was the final score in Jersey?... just so that I can relay the full facts to the fine folk of Doncaster in the Mercury tonight 😁
 

to answer your Q Brizzer it was 27-17, which importantly meant 5-0 on points and the Reds now 12-10 ahead of the Knights in the pool standings with 2 to play. There wasn't much in it, but Reds had the edge in the forwards I'd say and took their chances, a super score by the teenage loanee from Gloucester the pick of them... 


Doesn't count for anything bbut I thought the score was 27-19


Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 18:49
Originally posted by KnightsBoy KnightsBoy wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by Brizzer Brizzer wrote:

What was the final score in Jersey?... just so that I can relay the full facts to the fine folk of Doncaster in the Mercury tonight 😁
 

to answer your Q Brizzer it was 27-17, which importantly meant 5-0 on points and the Reds now 12-10 ahead of the Knights in the pool standings with 2 to play. There wasn't much in it, but Reds had the edge in the forwards I'd say and took their chances, a super score by the teenage loanee from Gloucester the pick of them... 


Doesn't count for anything bbut I thought the score was 27-19
 

Only the first Donny try was converted...


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 18:57
Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by KnightsBoy KnightsBoy wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by Brizzer Brizzer wrote:

What was the final score in Jersey?... just so that I can relay the full facts to the fine folk of Doncaster in the Mercury tonight 😁
 

to answer your Q Brizzer it was 27-17, which importantly meant 5-0 on points and the Reds now 12-10 ahead of the Knights in the pool standings with 2 to play. There wasn't much in it, but Reds had the edge in the forwards I'd say and took their chances, a super score by the teenage loanee from Gloucester the pick of them... 


Doesn't count for anything bbut I thought the score was 27-19
 

Only the first Donny try was converted...

Ok


Posted By: oneagainstthehead
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 19:25
Originally posted by Bluesman11 Bluesman11 wrote:

Just to be clear, are you insinuating you genuinely believe a qualified referee was playing advantage to Ealing, waited until they had broken through to score a try and then decided to bring back play for the original penalty for no reason whatsoever? Why would he do this? What logical reason would there be for doing it? You absolutely may disagree with the ref if he has seen an infringement in the build up that you don’t agree with, but to suggest he’s just brought play back for no reason when Ealing were away to score is just absurd. I dread to think what the comments about the ref will be like if Ealing slip up again this season!

It helps no-one to have these slanging matches in the wake of a thumping win and an all round scintillating performance from Ealing. The officiating was not perfect today, when is it? Sir did not help himself by being almost totally devoid of recognisable signals.

I like to think I of myself as a two-eyed Ealing supporter but also a qualified referee (admittedly lapsed) who had a great view from the grandstand. This is my take on the incidents referred to:

1) Ealing ‘advantage’ called back for clear offside/crossing by Ealing;
2) Ealing destroy Bedford put in at scrum, referee indicates Ealing penalty advantage for front row standing up, Ealing scrum half picks up ball from wheeled scrum before it leaves Bedford second row feet, breaks blind and sets up score under posts. Penalty offence by Ealing scrum half picked up by assistant ref and play called back for first offence, penalty Ealing.
3) Kicking ball away - it was only a scrum to Ealing, no big deal, dealt with by advice.
4) Bedford player spikes ball after penalty conceded and verbally voiced his view of decision. Marched back not 10m but a full 20m.
5) Ealing player charges conversion early, sent back by referee, only retires half way back before turning to face kicker again. Missed conversion retaken.

We all jealousy guard our right to criticise officials but they are always:

a) closer to the action than us, and

b) sometimes right.

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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 20:11
Originally posted by OldNick OldNick wrote:

No complaints abpout Matt Turvey's offciating at Coventry today.

That would be because the poor fellow had a puncture on the M1, so arrived late, and the rest of the official team rotated and covered for him.
And dare I say it, none the worse for that?
The stand-in had a very good game.


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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 20:14
Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by Brizzer Brizzer wrote:

What was the final score in Jersey?... just so that I can relay the full facts to the fine folk of Doncaster in the Mercury tonight 😁
 

to answer your Q Brizzer it was 27-17, which importantly meant 5-0 on points and the Reds now 12-10 ahead of the Knights in the pool standings with 2 to play. There wasn't much in it, but Reds had the edge in the forwards I'd say and took their chances, a super score by the teenage loanee from Gloucester the pick of them... 
Fully agree with this. 5-0 was the perfect result for Jersey but in truth 4-1 probably reflected the game. Jersey got the bounce of the ball today particularly on the bonus point try but I have seen them lose close matches often enough to smile and take the result. On another day Jersey could easily have won the away match at Castle Park so perhaps it was their turn. Both teams should make the last eight and I hope one of them beat Falcons in the finals (hopefully the wearing a red strip). No complaints from me about the referee who was always up with play and imo controlled the game well.


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Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 20:19
Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Originally posted by OldNick OldNick wrote:

No complaints abpout Matt Turvey's offciating at Coventry today.

That would be because the poor fellow had a puncture on the M1, so arrived late, and the rest of the official team rotated and covered for him.
And dare I say it, none the worse for that?
The stand-in had a very good game.

Agreed - for clarifiation, James Clarke.


Posted By: Trailfinder
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 21:28
For me the Ealing vs Bedford game was evidence enough that the Championship Cup should be put out of its misery. There is no way that a great club like Bedford should concede 80 points, irrespective of their injury situation.

In truth it appeared to be a game who's result had little meaning and was reflected by another lacklustre gate. The sooner the Prem and Champ combine their cups as a structured preseason competition the better.


Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 21:42
Originally posted by Bluesman11 Bluesman11 wrote:

At least one of the tries was brought back because Ealing committed an offence (one I think was crossing) subsequently to the advantage being given but before the try was scored; therefore back for original advantage. I’m afraid you’re not always more knowledgeable than the man in the middle. Very strange comments to make in the wake of a thumping win! I think there was actually one time where he blew for a pen and then Ealing scored just after the pen was awarded, but he let the try stand anyway. Perhaps I missed a quick tap being taken but the game was long gone at this point anyway .

And if you’re going to have a dig at Bedford being thankful as only Yorkshire are keeping us from relegation, well Ealing should be thankful to Mike Gooley as he is the only thing keeping them from relegation. Ealing have a fantastic team and played some absolutely scintillating rugby today, but still only a few hundred people were rattling around in a ground devoid of any atmosphere. Bedford would kill to have a team that couple produce rugby like that! It’s only going to get harder to attract people when London Irish move down the road next year too.
I agree, Ealing's crowds are still very disappointing. Bedford have great community support.


Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 21:47
Originally posted by oneagainstthehead oneagainstthehead wrote:

Originally posted by Bluesman11 Bluesman11 wrote:

Just to be clear, are you insinuating you genuinely believe a qualified referee was playing advantage to Ealing, waited until they had broken through to score a try and then decided to bring back play for the original penalty for no reason whatsoever? Why would he do this? What logical reason would there be for doing it? You absolutely may disagree with the ref if he has seen an infringement in the build up that you don’t agree with, but to suggest he’s just brought play back for no reason when Ealing were away to score is just absurd. I dread to think what the comments about the ref will be like if Ealing slip up again this season!

It helps no-one to have these slanging matches in the wake of a thumping win and an all round scintillating performance from Ealing. The officiating was not perfect today, when is it? Sir did not help himself by being almost totally devoid of recognisable signals.

I like to think I of myself as a two-eyed Ealing supporter but also a qualified referee (admittedly lapsed) who had a great view from the grandstand. This is my take on the incidents referred to:

1) Ealing ‘advantage’ called back for clear offside/crossing by Ealing;
2) Ealing destroy Bedford put in at scrum, referee indicates Ealing penalty advantage for front row standing up, Ealing scrum half picks up ball from wheeled scrum before it leaves Bedford second row feet, breaks blind and sets up score under posts. Penalty offence by Ealing scrum half picked up by assistant ref and play called back for first offence, penalty Ealing.
3) Kicking ball away - it was only a scrum to Ealing, no big deal, dealt with by advice.
4) Bedford player spikes ball after penalty conceded and verbally voiced his view of decision. Marched back not 10m but a full 20m.
5) Ealing player charges conversion early, sent back by referee, only retires half way back before turning to face kicker again. Missed conversion retaken.

We all jealousy guard our right to criticise officials but they are always:

a) closer to the action than us, and

b) sometimes right.
Okay, I shamefacedly retract my earlier comments in the face of this logical onslaught. If any of this had been remotely signalled during the match, it would have helped immensely.


Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2019 at 09:51
I thought the referee was very poor in commuicating his decisions for both teams. There were incidents for both teams where the players were visually aghast ( both teams ).

Gerg you hhave no need to retract your opinion under the barage of outcry with believing that the ref had a ' bad game'

The acussation of triumphalism is un founded. There was not a player or supporter who enjoyed the game in truth.

Bedford are in a bad place with injuries. Yesterday did not help with several players coming off with severe what appeared serious injuries.No player or supporter I spoke to post match were gloating or triumphant.

Bedford will come back stronger than ever in my opinion



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Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.


Posted By: Guinness John
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2019 at 10:29
Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

I thought the referee was very poor in commuicating his decisions for both teams. There were incidents for both teams where the players were visually aghast ( both teams ).

Gerg you hhave no need to retract your opinion under the barage of outcry with believing that the ref had a ' bad game'

The acussation of triumphalism is un founded. There was not a player or supporter who enjoyed the game in truth.

Bedford are in a bad place with injuries. Yesterday did not help with several players coming off with severe what appeared serious injuries.No player or supporter I spoke to post match were gloating or triumphant.

Bedford will come back stronger than ever in my opinion

Well said No7  Yesterday was always going to be tough, we knew that for various reasons that have been well covered in this debate. One or two more worthy of mention and will stick in the memory for quite some time are: firstly, being flanked in the gents just prior to kick off by Will Carrick-Smith 6 feet 10 and Sam Dickinson 6 feet 6, (no other comparisons available) but how amazing at such a ground players have to share such facilities with supporters. 
Meeting Will again post match to hand him the Blues Player of the match award, so well deserved in moving that huge frame around for the full 80 minutes.
Finally, a big well done to Paul Larkin for stepping onto the supporters coach at the end of the game to explain the feelings in the Blues dressing room.
 The players need our support both home and away more than ever so come on Blues fans, the players are giving their all, keep the faith. The next few games will be equally as tough, so get to G R on Saturday, Ampthill the following week, and most importantly to the game on Boxing Day again at G R it should be some game !!


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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2019 at 15:31
Half-time: Pirates 17 Nottingham 14


Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2019 at 15:47
CP 20 N 19


Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2019 at 16:02
Nottingham now lead 20-26 with 12 mins to play. 2 tries to 4.


Posted By: Hoffee
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2019 at 16:12
Shambolic performance from Pirates, atrocious second half.


Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2019 at 16:19
CP 20 (0) Nott 29 (5) - surprise result with a last-kick penalty by O'Leary denying the hosts anything


Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2019 at 16:27
Brilliant result for Notts. Denying Pirates a losing bonus point and taking 5 themselves in Penzance is a rare and special match for the visitors.

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Posted By: Donnyfan
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2019 at 16:29
Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

CP 20 (0) Nott 29 (5) - surprise result with a last-kick penalty by O'Leary denying the hosts anything
 
great result for Nottingham. obviously they turned up!!. Pirates have just flat-lined recently.


Posted By: Hoffee
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2019 at 16:31
Originally posted by Donnyfan Donnyfan wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

CP 20 (0) Nott 29 (5) - surprise result with a last-kick penalty by O'Leary denying the hosts anything

 
great result for Nottingham. obviously they turned up!!. Pirates have just flat-lined recently.


Not sure why anyone is surprised really, we're not that good.


Posted By: JonDee
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2019 at 16:59
Originally posted by Hoffee Hoffee wrote:

Originally posted by Donnyfan Donnyfan wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

CP 20 (0) Nott 29 (5) - surprise result with a last-kick penalty by O'Leary denying the hosts anything

 
great result for Nottingham. obviously they turned up!!. Pirates have just flat-lined recently.


Not sure why anyone is surprised really, we're not that good.
 

Very surprised there were apparently  12 changes from the League match win against Bedford but its the Cup and teams do try different combinations so maybe not such a shock


Posted By: Exiled_Scots
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2019 at 17:06
Originally posted by Donnyfan Donnyfan wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

CP 20 (0) Nott 29 (5) - surprise result with a last-kick penalty by O'Leary denying the hosts anything

 
great result for Nottingham. obviously they turned up!!. Pirates have just flat-lined recently.


Also a great result from a LS perspective, especially as our record in Penzance is appalling poor. No doubt Pirates will up their game for LS when we play them as they always do at home.

Post updated.

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Seven down one to go


Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2019 at 17:56
Originally posted by Exiled_Scots Exiled_Scots wrote:

Originally posted by Donnyfan Donnyfan wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

CP 20 (0) Nott 29 (5) - surprise result with a last-kick penalty by O'Leary denying the hosts anything

 
great result for Nottingham. obviously they turned up!!. Pirates have just flat-lined recently.


Also a great result from a LS perspective, especially as our record in Penzance is appalling poor. No doubt Pirates will up their game for LS next weekend as they always do.
 

Pirates v LS is the following weekend. LS could guarantee top-spot in their pool with a win at Nottingham next w/e...


Posted By: Exiled_Scots
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2019 at 19:18
Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by Exiled_Scots Exiled_Scots wrote:

Originally posted by Donnyfan Donnyfan wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

CP 20 (0) Nott 29 (5) - surprise result with a last-kick penalty by O'Leary denying the hosts anything

 
great result for Nottingham. obviously they turned up!!. Pirates have just flat-lined recently.


Also a great result from a LS perspective, especially as our record in Penzance is appalling poor. No doubt Pirates will up their game for LS next weekend as they always do.
 

Pirates v LS is the following weekend. LS could guarantee top-spot in their pool with a win at Nottingham next w/e...


Losing track off all these away games one after the other. Clearly those running this competition don’t having a clue having 3 pool games away one after he other.

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Watch Out - The Scottish Phoenix Club is on the Up!!

Seven down one to go


Posted By: Capt Sparrow
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2019 at 22:08
Originally posted by Exiled_Scots Exiled_Scots wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by Exiled_Scots Exiled_Scots wrote:

Originally posted by Donnyfan Donnyfan wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

CP 20 (0) Nott 29 (5) - surprise result with a last-kick penalty by O'Leary denying the hosts anything

 
great result for Nottingham. obviously they turned up!!. Pirates have just flat-lined recently.


Also a great result from a LS perspective, especially as our record in Penzance is appalling poor. No doubt Pirates will up their game for LS next weekend as they always do.
 

Pirates v LS is the following weekend. LS could guarantee top-spot in their pool with a win at Nottingham next w/e...


Losing track off all these away games one after the other. Clearly those running this competition don’t having a clue having 3 pool games away one after he other.

To be fair the reason for you having 3 away games is because the Mennaye pitch was relaid and new drainage installed when you should have been down here but the game was switched to the RAG.

Today we had so many playing their first game of the season plus others coming back from injury that I didn't rcognise most of them and it showed.

As for making predictions it's farcical because the teams are usually nowhere near the ones playing in the Championship proper.


Posted By: Stalwart
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2019 at 13:46
Nottingham were very good, and the somewhat experimental Pirates lineup was very disjointed. Several players were making their debuts, a couple after being out with injuries and medical issues. Too may mistakes and a very fragile defence at times meant we made it too easy for Nottingham, but well done to them - fully deserved their win.


Posted By: stadium
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2019 at 15:53
Pirate coaches will have to work hard to sort out the problem with the teams form over the last few weeks. Like Leicester they have the quality players on paper but struggling to get it together on the field.


Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2019 at 16:10
http://youtu.be/DVJqvGqpl2w" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/DVJqvGqpl2w
Jersey v Donny Highlights 


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Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD.


Posted By: Mark Smith
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2019 at 17:46
Falcons v Hartpury highlights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKZcOcCovrc" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKZcOcCovrc


Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2019 at 20:30
Interesting the comments re the cup being a waste of time which should be binned.

The RFU is in the middle of yet another review of levels 3 and 4 which as I understand it involves smaller leagues, more regionalisation and cups!

What is the point of a cup only involving the teams in a league? If it is more widespread than that then there will be a lot of travelling - I also suspect there will be a number of mis-matches and concessions by the away side - what a farce.

Similar proposals have been booted out in the past years, this time the RFU has taken the status quo off the table and issued limited invites.

Leave things alone - they are not broken!

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RAID ON


Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2019 at 20:44
levels 2, 7, 8 and 9 are broken, so they will change levels 3 and 4.



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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 10:06
A few smart tries here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGlFLNSBZBE&feature=youtu.be" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGlFLNSBZBE&feature=youtu.be

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