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Round 1 You love it really

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Topic: Round 1 You love it really
Posted By: corporalcarrot
Subject: Round 1 You love it really
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2022 at 13:57
Pool A
Sunday 6th
2pm Archers 2-5 Jersey Should be great entertainment could go either way
3pm Trailfinders 5-0 Pury Banker home win

Pool B
Fri 4th 19.45 Exiles 3-3 Blues Should be fun to watch
Sat 5th 2.30pm Donny 5-0 Cov At home Donny will put on a performance

Pool C
Sat 5th
2pm Caldy 5-2 Amps My tie of the round I hope they stream this one.
3pm Mond 5-1 Pirates On their own turf Mond to take this one


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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2022 at 14:09
Pool A
Sunday 6th
2pm Nottingham 1 - 5 Jersey 
3pm Trailfinders 5 - 1 Hartpury 

Pool B
Fri 4th 19.45 Scottish  0 - 5 Bedford 
Sat 5th 2.30pm Knights 5-0 Coventry 

Pool C
Sat 5th
2pm Caldy 5 - 2 Ampthill 
3pm Richmond 5 - 0 Pirates


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Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!


Posted By: greenpower
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2022 at 16:06
are these separate predictions to the league ones 


Posted By: Runitback
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2022 at 13:11
Pool A
Sunday 6th
2pm Archers 5-2 Jersey Should be great entertainment could go either way
3pm Trailfinders 5-0 Pury Full squad run out

Pool B
Fri 4th 19.45 Exiles 5-1 Blues BB rotate squad - Scottish Quins need to find form
Sat 5th 2.30pm Donny 5-0 Cov At home Donny will put on a performance

Pool C
Sat 5th
2pm Caldy 5-2 Amps Yes a big win for Caldy 
3pm Mond 1-5 Pirates Richmond tend to play 2nd XV


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Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2022 at 16:27
I have no great love for this competition. It is merely an excuse to fill in fixtures for a too small league. I doubt if all coaches will field their strongest sides and there is only a watered down incentive for players to win as giant killing results rarely occur in rugby.
But I will gladly offer my predictions if they count towards the overall season standings.

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Posted By: kempstonblue
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2022 at 17:34
I guess when your sports national team are playing, you want to avoid playing the same time.

Of an age where I remember Bedford entertaining Scottish clubs ahead of Calcutta Cup games at Twickenham. 
Or that Autumn would see three tests and English Divisions play a touring team…now tourists rack up the air miles across Europe. Although the size of Australia distances in Europe I guess are not that bad.

Would I prefer more league matches. Yes.
Unlike the EFL Championship, I don’t think we have a proliferation of current international players in the Championship.

However the wk 2 fixture Bedford v Coventry on Armistice Day Evening has me next week begging 🙏 the boss for a half day holiday.

Still no love for the competition though.


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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2022 at 17:37
You're wrong really.

Cherub is right though.


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Posted By: Donnyknightfan
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2022 at 21:48
I’m going to keep a separate predictions table for the cup games and then maybe add the totals to the league scores later in the season. I’ll see how many people get their guesses in, if we get enough interest, they’ll count towards the overall league. 

Anyway, here’s my guess on what might happen this week, with all the usual caveats about team selections etc. 

Pool A:
Nottingham 5 v 2 Jersey
Ealing 5 v 0 Hartpury 

Pool B:
London Scottish 5 v 2 Bedford 
Doncaster 5 v 0 Coventry 

Pool C:
Caldy 5 v 1 Ampthill
Richmond 5 v 1 Cornish Pirates 

In Pool A , I think Nottingham will just edge out a Jersey team that I think could rotate their squad this week. Ealing will be too good for Hartpury whoever they pick.

Pool B - I think LS could use the cup games to kick start their season and I think they’ll start with a win against an inconsistent, and probably not full-strength, Bedford. I also expect Donny to continue their impressive home form and beat Cov.

Pool C - Caldy will go for it in every game this season and they probably don’t have the luxury of making mass changes so I’m tipping a win for the Ravers. Amps will still be tough to beat though. I know Richmond normally give the cup lip-service but with the group they have, I expect them to really go for it in this first game and I think they can beat a transitional Pirates team. 



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Posted By: greenpower
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2022 at 21:56
pool a nottingham  1  5 jersey
 
        ealing           5 0 hartpury

pool b   scottish     1 5  bedford
          
            doncaster  5 1 coventry

pool c    caldy         5 1 ampthill 

            richmond    5  1 pirates


Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2022 at 08:55
The only way to do this is to pretend they are league games as there are just too many unknowns as to what strength of side each team fields. I start off by saying Ealing will win the cup and Ampthill won't.

Nottingham 1-4 Jersey
Ealing 5-0 Hartpury
L Scottish 2-5 Bedford
Doncaster 4-0 Coventry
Caldy 3-3 Ampthill
Richmond 1-4 Pirates


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Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2022 at 13:50
Nottingham 0-5 Jersey ... The Jersey 'fringe' are no weaker than the starting 15 and are all playing for places. I think that the Reds take this.
Ealing 5-0 Hartpury ... So many strong players in the Ealing squad. Cannot see past a comfortable home win here.
L Scottish 4 1 Bedford ... I can see an upset here if Bedford rotate and LS don't. They have been improving.
Doncaster 5-0 Coventry ... It's Donny at home innit?
Caldy 4-1 Ampthill ... Caldy to take revenge from a few weeks ago.
Richmond 4-1 Pirates ... Both teams to rotate. Close home win.

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Tackle Low!!!!!


Posted By: All the Way
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2022 at 13:54
Nottingham 1-4 Jersey
Ealing 5-0 Hartpury
L Scottish 2-5 Bedford
Doncaster 4-0 Coventry
Caldy 4-1 Ampthill
Richmond 1-4 Pirates


Posted By: BigChief
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2022 at 14:16
Nottingham 1 - 5 Jersey
Ealing 5 - 0 Hartpury
L Scottish 5 - 2 Bedford Shocked
Doncaster 5 - 1 Coventry
Caldy 5 - 1 Ampthill
Richmond 4 - 0 Pirates

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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2022 at 16:49

Ealing Trailfinders team to face Hartpury:

Massively excited for this team with a coupke of debutants, and a few folks coming back from injury.

15. Jack Metcalf

14. Luke Daniels

13. Max Bodilly

12. Peter Robb (debut)

11. Cian Kelleher

10. Dan Lancaster

9. Jack Grant

1. Will Davis

2. Kevin O'Byrne (debut)

3. Lewis Thiede

4. David O'Connor (C)

5. Danny Cutmore

6. Rob Farrar

7. Simon Uzokwe

8. Jack Digby

Replacements:

16. Cam Terry

17. James Gibbons

18. George Davis

19. Simon Linsell

20. Carlo Tizzano

21. Jordan Burns

22. Steven Shingler

23. David Johnston



Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2022 at 16:50
Nottingham 1 - 5 Jersey
Ealing 5 - 0 Hartpury
L Scottish 0 - 5 Bedford 
Doncaster 5 - 1 Coventry
Caldy 5 - 1 Ampthill
Richmond 3 - 3 Pirates  - why not?


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2022 at 20:45
LS 21 Bedford 3 ht


Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2022 at 21:36
26-10 latest at the RAG. Not quite over, but well done LS


Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2022 at 21:41
26-17 FT


Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2022 at 22:46
Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

26-17 FT

Oh my. Did Blues put out an experimental team?


Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2022 at 14:54
Doncaster 0 - 0 Coventry coming up to 20 mins. Sounds pretty turgid stuff.


Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2022 at 15:20
Doncaster 0 - 0 Coventry HT
50 minute first half. 


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2022 at 15:24
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Our Club


Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2022 at 15:43
Doncaster 0 - 7 Cov 45 mins
Rhys Thomas try


Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2022 at 15:45
HT - Richmond 0 Pirates 33 (5 Tries)



Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2022 at 15:47
Doncaster 5 - 7 Cov
conv missed
48 mins


Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2022 at 15:55
Don 10 - 7 Cov conv missed 59 mins


Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2022 at 16:03
Caldy 17 Amps 13 FT

Excuse for Cava and Pot Noodles!! 🍸🍸🍸


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Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2022 at 16:11
Don 15 - 7 Cov 72 mins
another conv missed


Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2022 at 16:15
Don 22 - 7 Cov




Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2022 at 16:26
Originally posted by OldNick OldNick wrote:

Don 22 - 7 Cov


FT. I expected worse given the starting selection, so not too displeased.



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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2022 at 16:32


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Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2022 at 16:45
FT - Richmond 7 Pirates 62 (10T)


Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2022 at 18:15
Richmond 4-1 Pirates ... Both teams to rotate. Close home win

Well, called that one right then

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Tackle Low!!!!!


Posted By: Big Eddie
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2022 at 18:44
Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:

Caldy 17 Amps 13 FT

Excuse for Cava and Pot Noodles!! 🍸🍸🍸

Shocking rain squalls during the game but Caldy had too much power up front for Ampthill. Huge penalty count against Ampthill and their scrum was comprehensively dismantled. Some stand out performances for Caldy including both scrum halves Nye Thomas and Joe Murray who managed the conditions better than the Mob.

Nye Thomas was a constant threat behind a dominant pack. Up front Rushton, Sanders, Crowe and Higginson were stand outs for Caldy and although only on the pitch for 10 minutes an act of phenomenal skill and strength by Aigbokhae could have snatched the man of the match award away from the diminutive Nye Thomas who in my view deserved the award. (I do not know whether Nye actually was awarded MoM)

As the Mob's driving maul pushed towards the Caldy line the Ampthill second row broke to dive over the line with most of Ampthill driving behind him. Aigbokhae twisted the big fella onto his back and despite the weight of Ampthill bearing down on him there was no way for Ampthill to ground the ball.

Adam Aigbokhae is a freak of nature.


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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2022 at 14:52
Archers 5-31 Jersey H/T 

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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2022 at 15:45
Ealing 24 (4t) - Gloucester b 0 - HT Not as close as the score suggests. Gloucester B have made maybe 10 meters with ball in hand. Jack Grant ended the half with a 90 meter solo wonder try, leaving half the opposition jock straps on the pitch.


Posted By: oneagainstthehead
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2022 at 15:46
HT at Vallis Way
Ealing 24(BP) - Hartpury 0

Ealing 9, Jack Grant, bossing the game. 80m solo effort to end the half.


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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2022 at 15:48
12-38 at the Bay in closing stages, 2nd half a bit flat by sound of it (I’m not there)


Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2022 at 15:59
Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

12-38 at the Bay in closing stages, 2nd half a bit flat by sound of it (I’m not there)

FT


Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2022 at 16:08
Simon Uzokwe just charged down a kick,  gathered it, ran over a Hartpury defender, and scored from 30meters. Beast. 31- 0. 47'.


Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2022 at 16:29
https://www.nottinghamrugby.co.uk/nottingham-12-38-jersey-reds" rel="nofollow - Nottingham 12-38 Jersey Reds - Nottingham Rugby



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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2022 at 16:50
Ealing 64 - Hartpury 10 FT. My five year old declined to come to the game because, and I quote, "Ealing are just going to kill them." Smart lad. Little to take away from that match.


Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2022 at 17:14
https://www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/search-results?competition=1752&season=2022-2023#table" rel="nofollow - Fixtures & Results (englandrugby.com)
Tables & results for Round 1 for some reason excluding Donny/Cov


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Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2022 at 19:15
Or With All The Results:

http://www.rugbynetwork.net/main/s369/st204046.htm" rel="nofollow - https://www.rugbynetwork.net/main/s369/st204046.htm


Posted By: workerbee
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2022 at 09:51
Your son is Right, what is the point of this cup, unless Ealing send out their 3B side then there is no point in turning up to take a hammering, clubs are already resting players ready for the next round of serious fixtures in the league. The decision not to go to a 14-team league was a mistake. 12 plus the cup is the same number of games and they would be more competitive and attract bigger crowds, the excuse that it would mean spreading the RFU money thinner no longer applies as clubs are only getting £140 less insurance now. 


Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2022 at 10:05
Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

26-17 FT

Oh my. Did Blues put out an experimental team?

I think the lack of any comment from Bedford fans , win or lose shows exactly how little support there is for this cup competition in its current format. There would usually be in depth analysis by knowledgeable Blues supporters but absolutely no response is surprising . No try of the day, no disputing referees decisions and mention of the Blues opposition tries from rolling mauls. 
I am not overly keen on this cup competition but I did attend . It is a rugby match and there were some new combinations and debuts. 
There seemed to be a uplift in defence and a collective resolve and determination to hold the line. The Forthcoming game against Jersey will be incredibly interesting from both teams. How much will be given away or retained for the league games. Will Jersey dominate the set piece ?. I am looking forward to that game but dependant on long haul flights to make the game at Ealing Trailfinders.


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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2022 at 10:24
Originally posted by workerbee workerbee wrote:

Your son is Right, what is the point of this cup, unless Ealing send out their 3B side then there is no point in turning up to take a hammering, clubs are already resting players ready for the next round of serious fixtures in the league. The decision not to go to a 14-team league was a mistake. 12 plus the cup is the same number of games and they would be more competitive and attract bigger crowds, the excuse that it would mean spreading the RFU money thinner no longer applies as clubs are only getting £140 less insurance now. 
Some clubs appear to adopt this approach, but Ealing certainly don't - they want to win it and their squad is so strong they can rotate the squad and still do the business. Jersey travel to Vallis Way in round 3 and I'm looking forward to seeing that match far more than a league game against one of the clubs in the bottom half of the table. Ealing will be strongly fancied to win but I'd be surprised and disappointed if they didn't have to work for it.

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Posted By: *Stalwart
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2022 at 11:03
This could have been a lot more interesting if we had a competition involving Champ teams and Nat 1 teams. Something different for supporters of all those clubs and a chance to visit different places and meet new rugby people. The only benefit of the current cup competition is that some "fringe" players get a chance to show what they can do and impress the coaches.

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Posted By: kempstonblue
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2022 at 13:10
Pictorial evidence suggests Blues fans visited RAG for our second trip in a week.

It was also biggest night of the year at Goldington Road as we hosted the annual fireworks.

Interesting hearing spectators saying they didn’t know what the ground was like, or it’s drinking facilities. Some hinting they might come down for a game. 

Blues biggest weakness, imo, is not having a second team. A Wanderers team, with active promotion might bring some new faces to our club. Although I might have the conflict of Wanderers or Bedford Ath.


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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2022 at 18:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc2Gu_gXBIo" rel="nofollow - Jersey Reds Championship Cup Trylights v Nottingham - YouTube

Jersey Tries 


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