Banana skins in the final furlong
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Topic: Banana skins in the final furlong
Posted By: FHLH
Subject: Banana skins in the final furlong
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2023 at 13:41
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Here we go with sides nearly on same number of matches played. No offence to teams not specifically mentioned Sale Esher - A Chinnor - H Hull - A B Stortford - H * DMP - A * Rams - H (1 April) * R Park - A * Moseley - H The run in across March / April has some challenging fixtures with Rams & Rosslyn Park being their trickiest, but DMP away won't be simple and Stortford love to run. ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2023 at 13:48
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Rams Chinnor - H RP - H * Moseley - A " Leeds - H P Albion - A * Taunton - H Sale - A * Cinderford - H Esher - A With the title firmly in their sights, Rams have a mixed bag in the run in with three away fixtures presenting the trickiest and RP at home drifting away - what's happened there? ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2023 at 13:52
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Rosslyn Park Rams - A * Cambridge - A * Moseley - H Leeds - A P Albion - H Taunton - A Sale - H * Cinderford - A * The early and late fixtures will see the trickiest games, luckily they have Albion at home! ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2023 at 13:59
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Cambridge Bishops Stortford - H * Cinderford - A * R Park - H * Esher - A Moseley - H * Chinnor - A Leeds - A Hull - A P Albion - A * 5 banana skins lurking with the first three interesting! Stortford will be looking for revenge, Cinderford never easy away, R Park with a point to prove and Albion away as the final fixture - another tricky West Country trip ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2023 at 14:00
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All of these are mixed in with clubs seeking points to avoid relegation as shown on the "Fingernails" thread! ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: BFG1
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2023 at 16:46
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Neck on the line 1st Rams 112 2nd Cambs 110 3rd Sale 109 4th Park 94
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Posted By: jimbojetset
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2023 at 19:09
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Given the way the league has been the last two years, I would suggest for the top four/five teams every game is a potential banana skin. Why it is so much more fun than the premiership as a spectacle!
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2023 at 21:31
So true whether members or visitors. ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
jimbojetset wrote:Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2023 at 17:54
Definitely too many ifs and buts, however it's Rams league to lose. ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: Big Eddie
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2023 at 18:19
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Sale have been the nearly men on a few occasions twice against Caldy and once aagainst Old Elthamians. They will be favourites in all the last three games but if as I think is likely they beat Rams this coming Saturday they still need Rams to slip up somewhere else. Sale have to get a bonus point win against Rams and deny Rams any points ......it is a tall order but I think that a mature and focussed Sale may just do it.
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Posted By: Runitback
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2023 at 18:55
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I think Rams will see this through and they will beat Sale this weekend, it should be a hell of a game. If Sale did get promoted would that pose an issue for Caldy, who had three outstanding Sale youngsters playing for them On Saturday ? I would like to see another Northern Team move up, it’s great seeing what Caldy have done this season to the establishment :-) ------------- Run with it |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2023 at 00:28
Now Eddie, Cambridge have a game in hand so Sale win would be useful, but games won may come in to play. If only we'd managed the Caldy game last year... penalties not lineouts. Hence ifs and buts..
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Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2023 at 09:21
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Meanwhile down in the relegation mix. Sadly Hull already down. This leaves Moseley, Chinnor, DMP, Esher, Taunton and Leeds in the mix potentially, but after this week’s games that could all change for some. ------------- Cauliflower ear. |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2023 at 09:35
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Some things may well be much clearer on Saturday evening. But, given the swirl of stories - not everything. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: front5
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2023 at 18:44
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I feel DMP Moseley and Chinnor have done enough with the 7/8 point cushions they have I can’t see any of them not getting at least 3 bonus points from last three games. It seems it’s Leeds, Hull and the key fixture could be DMP v Esher, Mosley v Taunton and Taunton v Leeds. I think Taunton will scrape it with DMP being the blow to Esher this year
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2023 at 23:16
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Rams have Cinderford (H) and Esher (A) Sale have Rosslyn Park (A) and Moseley (H) Cambridge have Hull (A), Plymouth Albion (A) and Moseley (H) ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2023 at 17:04
Do we definitely know how many are to be relegated yet?
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2023 at 17:15
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No. It is three, assuming every club is able to continue for next season. But if any club, or Wasps, does not take up their place, and informs the RFU in time for leagues to be rearranged, it could be fewer. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2023 at 18:07
do you know when that cut-off is CQ?
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Posted By: CJB1
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2023 at 18:16
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Leeds are doomed now, I believe. Maximum of 1 from Mose, Mowden, Esher and Taunton. Or none if it turns out to be only 2 down. ------------- "What I need is a strong drink and a peer group" |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2023 at 20:56
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Islander, I cannot find it in the new regulations. It
used to align with the publication of schedules - though there was a
clause permitting a National 1 side to be promoted to fill a gap in the
top two leagues until September (though Nat 1 would run one short in that
case). Elthamians kept assuring the RFU they
had a new funding source until it was too late to rejig the league,
which is why Nat 1 was short one team that season. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 16:28
How the hell can you have a competition where with two games to go you don't know how many teams are going to be relegated? English rugby continues to be an utter laughing stock.
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Posted By: jimbojetset
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 20:43
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With two games to go (three for Cambridge) It really is between Rams and Cambridge and who is going to blink first. Sale have a tricky trip to Roslyn Park, Rams have Cinderford visiting (always a difficult game) and Cambridge have an away trip to Plymouth where only Bishop’s have picked up five points this season. If Sale sneak this, and it’s a big if, it will be because Rams and Cambridge have both dropped a point and Sale have managed a five pointer at RP for the first time ever. However, possibly the most important thing for those three clubs (and their oppositions), is that these last games of the season will be rammed with people spending money behind the bar, boosting their clubs and promoting National One rugby. Also, despite the rather ludicrous Rugby Paper claiming we had only circa 600 people on Saturday, Heywood Road had 300 people dining prior to kick off, Rams brought at least 100 on coaches, Leicester Forest East Under 16s were on tour and had a coach load as well, the bars were absolutely rammed with people. Our count was 1400+. Fun fact that we might have a three way tie at the top, which if that was the case, Sale would go up, Cambridge 2nd and Rams 3rd. However if all three pick up five points from their last games, Sale will come 3rd having lost only three games all season. Whoever goes up, will definitely deserve it and it sets up a mouthwatering 2023-24 season in National One! Fingers crossed it’s decided on the last day of the official season as that will round off a truly remarkable year of rugby that even the RFU can’t c*ck up :-)
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Posted By: Big Eddie
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2023 at 06:14
Jimbo Lad, I was at the game and my estimate was a crowd of circa 1,500 plus. The main stand was almost full and there was a lot of people on the balcony and on the far side there was also a decent number in the Jim Birtles stand. However, I wouldn't place the blame at the door of The Rugby Paper as it is likely that someone from Sale FC provided the attendance figure. Perhaps the Sale FC President ? ------------- ''The future isn't what it used to be'' |
Posted By: billesleyexile
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2023 at 08:51
Unfortunately, Cambridge v Moseley is the final day of the season - on 29th April. So it may be decided on the last day of the official season, but there's a fair chance it won't be and teams at both ends could be hanging around waiting for the result for a few days after their own seasons have finished.
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Posted By: Rabbie Burns
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2023 at 10:34
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The home team gives the rugby paper the crowd so I would assume that’s what was on GMS ------------- So many Christians not enough Lions |
Posted By: jimbojetset
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2023 at 10:42
Quite possibly and If that’s the case I suspect that you will have a bumper crowd of either Rams and/or Sale supporters down to watch cheering on Mose while their respective executives cheer on Cambridge so they can deal with the weirdness of whatever is going on in the Champ 😂
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Posted By: workerbee
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2023 at 11:07
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2023 at 11:09
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Probably not as large as the crowd at Barking, when they played London Scottish in the winner takes all promotion match, many seasons ago. A stunning match, sealed by a 90-yard interception try in the dying moments. It is all very tight, but much less stressful than coming to Sale needing a win and luck to stay up, just a few seasons ago. Sale, who were safe, did us a big favour by turning up in a party mood. Moseley helped by beating Caldy, who were relegated - but look at what they have done since. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Big Eddie
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2023 at 11:13
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2023 at 20:22
i didn't see it live, but this was one of those moments that one could scarcely believe had happened, even a few days afterwards, and after over a decade you really doubt that it could have. Fortunately there's always youtube... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaIlhUCZ0wQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaIlhUCZ0wQ
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2023 at 00:24
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My daughter and I were behind the Barking goal line. But I cannot quite pick us out on that video. Everyone's first instinct was why throw that pass. Why not just stick itup the jumper and take the win. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: neyland22
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2023 at 02:39
Surely this game should have had to be played this Saturday even if it is Easter, it cannot be right to play this fixture after the rest of the season has finished.
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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2023 at 10:09
| Nat 2 North and West have fixtures listed for May 6th, so a week after the two fixtures in Nat1 |
Posted By: cheshire exile
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2023 at 10:54
May 6th also the start of the County Championship of course.
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2023 at 11:04
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delete ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: BigChief
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2023 at 13:24
We were all there, a truly amazing match  Both teams were exceptional that season. ------------- For the ordinary purposes of conversation, a superficial knowledge of many things goes further than an intimacy with one or two. |
Posted By: HandsintheRuck
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2023 at 16:22
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I was there. Heartbreaking for Barking who mostly controlled the game.... except for that risky long pass.... ------------- What thou lovest well remains, the rest is dross. |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2023 at 10:40
| There's some crucial fixtures this week, certainly for those lower down the table, with the top teams inseparable, talk about who blinks first. |
Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2023 at 12:25
HITR I was there too, trying to find ES and BC, as it was their round😂😂😂. It was heartbreaking for Barking that day. Talk about fine margins. It was also heartbreaking for Barking at the end of the following season when they were relegated from National One. Once again I was there as it was the game at Barking and the defeat against Sedge that sealed their fate. A bizarre turn of events. That very risky long pass was clearly a lost opportunity. All the best ST
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Posted By: HandsintheRuck
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2023 at 19:26
------------- What thou lovest well remains, the rest is dross. |
Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2023 at 19:41
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HITR Great to hear from you again. It would be good to see Blood and Sands at the top table (Level 2). Very tight though at the top of National One. I too still have my ‘Rolling Maul’ pin badge.😂😂😂😂 I wonder how many are still out there?  I hope all is well with you All the best ST
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Posted By: CJB1
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2023 at 20:12
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I had one but haven't been able to find it for ages. Will probably be at Grantchester Road on the 29th but as a Moseley supporter. ------------- "What I need is a strong drink and a peer group" |