Updated Table after February 8th games
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Topic: Updated Table after February 8th games
Posted By: Rothman2
Subject: Updated Table after February 8th games
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2025 at 21:03
------------- Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. Groucho Marx |
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2025 at 07:58
| Wow - that's tight: both at the top & in the bottom half... exciting last 2 months ahead in N1 |
Posted By: WILD BOAR 1
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2025 at 08:07
| Tight at the top, but with only two down DMP & LL look to be in trouble. |
Posted By: Jester10
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2025 at 08:57
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Who's the Rotherham game in hand against? ------------- Enjoying life! |
Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2025 at 09:00
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Esher away on 22nd February ------------- Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. Groucho Marx |
Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2025 at 09:59
As two down,does that mean three up from National 2. ------------- Cauliflower ear. |
WILD BOAR 1 wrote:Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2025 at 10:57
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In principle, yes. One each from the 3 Nat 2 leagues. It might still depend on whether the winner of Nat 1 (promoted) and 1 other from Nat 1 (invited) both move up to the new Champ/Prem 2 for next season when it expands to 14 teams. However, I can see it being Worcester that will be 'invited' to the new league, so only 1 up from Nat 1 and 2 down to Nat 2 leagues. That'll mean another re-jig at that level. Still a way to go of course, but could it be Leeds, TJ's and Camborne coming up to Nat 1? That would be a great geographical spread!
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Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2025 at 10:58
Yes, I understand that there is no relegation from the Championship this season
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2025 at 11:36
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That is the current plan of record. Tier 2, whatever it ends up being called after the rebranding exercise, should be 14 teams. Including all 12 of the current clubs, plus the team that tops National 1 and one more by invitation - probably Worcester. Relegation should resume the following year. But, negotiations are still ongoing - so who knows. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2025 at 12:42
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I reckon that particular can will be kicked down the road. Anyway there’s plenty of threads to debate on the Championship. The reason I published the table on here is to encourage debate about THIS season. Richmond are probably the new favourites but they still have to play Rams at home and us at Clifton Lane. Our run in looks extremely tough though with visits to Bishops Stortford, improving Esher, Rams, Plymouth, Blackheath & Rosslyn Park. It doesn’t get any tougher. It’s good though that the Roth mentality is one game at a time. It’s the next game, that is the focus. As regards, who goes down, that again depends on whether the can I referred to earlier gets kicked down the road, and if it does, will it be two or three to be relegated? If three, that brings a lot more teams into the equation.
------------- Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. Groucho Marx |
Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2025 at 10:45
I agree with you RM2, Richmond would be my favourites to win the league now, but to be closely contested all the way by Rotherham I believe. The Roth v Mond fixture will be massive. A month or so ago I would have said Rams were favourites, but they have faltered once too often now in my opinion (which for some reason has been a trend for them over the last 3 or 4 seasons?). In Nat 1, its very difficult to lose 4 or more matches during the course of the season and expect to win the league. Their form has been iffy since pre-Christmas. Aside from injuries at Rams, it is odd is that their captain and top try scoring talisman Max Hayman has been on the sidelines for about a month, apparently due to some disciplinary/issue that occurred against Blackheath. I can't find any information about this though. Does anyone know what it is about as their title ambitions have certainly suffered without him on the pitch? At the bottom, I would say that Leicester and DMP will be relegated, but not without a few more twists and turns in the next few months. It is great to see the likes of Sale and Esher turning around their form and beating some of the top teams, it keeps everyone on their toes!
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Posted By: Storty
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2025 at 11:16
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Didn't realise only 2 went down, thought it was 3! That's a shame as the bottom 2 look gone but it would have been a really good battle for the rest to avoid that third spot. Rams just can't seem to ever get the job done. Every season they lead the league but end up faltering. Richmond looking good now but can't rule out Rotherham the way they've gone this season.
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Posted By: Rabbie Burns
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2025 at 13:45
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Max Hayman was found guilty of biting. The whole case leaves a huge distaste in the manor in which it was conducted ------------- So many Christians not enough Lions |
Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2025 at 14:02
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Oh I see, that isn't something you hear about happening much anymore in rugby, thankfully. No excuses for it. What was it about the way it was conducted that left a bad taste (excusing the pun)?
Is there a link to the RFU disciplinary hearing findings? They certainly used to be publicised once proceedings had been concluded. |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2025 at 14:32
yes. scroll down to November... https://www.englandrugby.com/run/rules-governance/discipline/disciplinary-decisions" rel="nofollow - https://www.englandrugby.com/run/rules-governance/discipline/disciplinary-decisions
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Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2025 at 14:37
Thanks, will have a read. And blimey, 4 different citings in one match.
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Posted By: GTB
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2025 at 14:44
You should add that he was found to be doing so in response to being fish hooked by a Blackheath player. If someone is causing injuries to your mouth by inserting their fingers into you and you have no other way of preventing them, I would like to know how you would react. I still struggle to understand how his actions weren't found to be self-defence, but there we go. I am just looking forward to seeing Max back in action, he is a great player and very exciting to watch.
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2025 at 15:04
The new Rosslyn Park who've thrived then faltered for the last few seasons On the disciplinary issue, perhaps retaliation is frowned upon. I'll take a look for the https://Rfu.widen.net/s/vqrbmc9ggz/augustine-slowik-blackheath-and-max-hayman-rams-judgments-december-2024" rel="nofollow - papers . A very long read. Hayman 6 weeks (bite disproportionate action, Blackheath doctor's report) Blackheath hooker 2 weeks (physical abuse, limited evidential proof of fish hooking, video shows contact around the mouth only, although view hidden for about 10/15 seconds)
------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: GTB
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2025 at 16:12
| The committee did find that BH15 had committed an act of foul play though by placing his finger in R2's mouth. So I find it tough to believe there wasn't fish hooking involved, because why would you place your fingers into an opposition's players mouth? But that's only my view, the decision was made a while ago and I think it should be moved past without much more attention paid to it. |
Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2025 at 16:17
I thought Hayman got ten weeks. ------------- Cauliflower ear. |