Round 7
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Topic: Round 7
Posted By: The Blues
Subject: Round 7
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2023 at 22:56
This weeks match ups are:
Ampthill v Caldy Cambridge v Coventry Hartpury v London Scottish Bedford Blues v Nottingham Ealing Trailfinders v Cornish Pirates
Doncaster Knights playing Edinburgh A
Some interesting games this week. If the weather is dry the game of the week will be the battle of the backs! Blues at home should win this but it could be 55 - 49!
Blues have a weird situation where we have only played 1 away game in the league so far at Pirates. Next week is Ampthill, so almost another home game.
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Posted By: knightandday
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2023 at 08:14
Doncaster have a Bye week. I wouldn’t call playing Edinburgh’A’ a rest ![Wink Wink](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2023 at 08:49
knightandday wrote:
Doncaster have a Bye week. I wouldn’t call playing Edinburgh’A’ a rest ![Wink Wink](smileys/smiley2.gif) |
Is that home or away? Edinburgh fans won't be used to away games they can get to apart from the obvious.
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2023 at 09:00
knightandday wrote:
Doncaster have a Bye week. I wouldn’t call playing Edinburgh’A’ a rest ![Wink Wink](smileys/smiley2.gif) |
Didn’t realise that, enjoy.
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Posted By: *Stalwart
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2023 at 11:13
Ampthill 4 v Caldy 1 Cambridge 1 v Coventry 4 Hartpury 4 v London Scottish 1 Bedford Blues 5 v Nottingham 1 Ealing Trailfinders 5 v Cornish Pirates 0
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Posted By: Old Gold
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2023 at 11:59
Ampthill 4 - 1 Caldy Cambridge 0 - 5 Coventry Hartpury 4 - 1 Scottish Bedford 5 - 2 Nottingham Ealing 5 - 1 Cornish Pirates
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Posted By: knightandday
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2023 at 12:24
Paul10 wrote:
knightandday wrote:
Doncaster have a Bye week. I wouldn’t call playing Edinburgh’A’ a rest ![Wink Wink](smileys/smiley2.gif) |
Is that home or away? Edinburgh fans won't be used to away games they can get to apart from the obvious. |
Home. Seems like tickets are going well though. Sure I saw that there were only 150 seats left available in the stand.
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Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2023 at 12:36
knightandday wrote:
Paul10 wrote:
knightandday wrote:
Doncaster have a Bye week. I wouldn’t call playing Edinburgh’A’ a rest ![Wink Wink](smileys/smiley2.gif) |
Is that home or away? Edinburgh fans won't be used to away games they can get to apart from the obvious. |
Home. Seems like tickets are going well though. Sure I saw that there were only 150 seats left available in the stand. |
Not surprised. Scottish rugby fans in England don't often get a chance to see their lads play.
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2023 at 12:39
Paul10 wrote:
knightandday wrote:
Paul10 wrote:
knightandday wrote:
Doncaster have a Bye week. I wouldn’t call playing Edinburgh’A’ a rest ![Wink Wink](smileys/smiley2.gif) |
Is that home or away? Edinburgh fans won't be used to away games they can get to apart from the obvious. |
Home. Seems like tickets are going well though. Sure I saw that there were only 150 seats left available in the stand. |
Not surprised. Scottish rugby fans in England don't often get a chance to see their lads play. |
Also it's not just the A team lads, any 1st teamers, fit but don't travel to France for the euro game will be at Donny for a run out
And yes, should be a very good crowd
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2023 at 17:26
My guesses:
Ampthill 5 v Caldy 1 Cambridge 1 v Coventry 5 Hartpury 2 v London Scottish 5 Bedford Blues 5 v Nottingham 2 Ealing Trailfinders 5 v Cornish Pirates 0
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: All the Way
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2023 at 19:03
Ampthill 4 - 0 Caldy
Cambridge 0 - 5 Coventry Hartpury 4 - 1 Scottish Bedford 5 - 2 Nottingham Ealing 5 - 0 Cornish Pirates
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Posted By: greenpower
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2023 at 19:43
ampthill 5 0 caldy cambridge 0 5 coventry hartpury 5 1 scottish bedford 5 1nottingham ealing 5 0 pirates
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Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2023 at 07:08
Ampthill 5-2 Caldy. Always a close encounter. Cambridge 1-5 Coventry. But this depends on which Coventry team turn up. Hartpury 3-3 L Scottish. Totally impossible to predict until the Scottish team is announced. Bedford 5-2 Nottingham. Possibly the most entertaining game of this round. Ealing 5-2 Pirates. Ealing to win but their defence leaks tries so it will be close.
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Posted By: BigChief
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2023 at 07:38
Ampthill 5 - 1 Caldy Cambridge 0 - 5 Coventry Hartpury 0 - 4 London Scottish Bedford Blues 2 - 5 Nottingham Ealing 5 - 1 Cornish Pirates
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2023 at 13:16
Blues team, would have preferred Day to start, but some experience at the end it probably wise. Smith returns from Saints. Think it is Jamie Elliott who is 13 as the website text + X and website contradict.
Bedford Blues starting XV: 15. Matt Worley, 14. Sean French, 13. Jordan Venter / Jamie Elliott, 12. Michael Le Bourgeois, 11. Dean Adamson, 10. Will Maisey, 9. Archie McParland (S); 1. Joey Conway, 2. James Fish (C), 3. Oisin Heffernan, 4. Robin Williams, 5. Luke Frost, 6. Joe Howard, 7. Henry Pollock (S), 8. Cameron King Bedford Blues Replacements: 16. Robbie Smith (S), 17. Jamie Jack, 18. Bryan O’Connor, 19. Jordan Onojaife, 20. Kayde Sylvester (S), 21. Kieran Curran, 22. Alex Day, 23. Louis Grimoldby
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2023 at 13:18
Nottingham
1. Kai Owen 2. Harry Clayton 3. Xavier Valentine 4. Sebastian Ferreira 5. Côme Joussain 6. Iosefa Maloney-Fiaola 7. James Cherry 8. Scott Hall (c) 9. Michael Stronge 10. Morgan Bunting 11. Ryan Olowofela 12. Joseph Woodward 13. Marcus Ramage 14. David Williams 15. Ellis Mee Replacements – 16. Jack Dickinson 17. Archie Van Der Flier 18. Jake Bridges 19. Jack Shine 20. Sam Green 21. Will Yarnell 22. Sam Hollingsworth 23. Jack Stapley
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2023 at 14:42
A much stronger side announced this time (thankfully). https://www.coventryrugby.co.uk/team-news-coventry-boosted-by-nayalos-return/" rel="nofollow - https://www.coventryrugby.co.uk/team-news-coventry-boosted-by-nayalos-return/
Wilson; Hutler, Wand, Rigg, Martin; Pellegrini, Chudley; Chilvers, Poole, Salt; Tyas, Nkwocha; Ryan, Kvesic, Nayalo. Replacements: Stewart, Southworth, Nairau, Anstey, Ball, Lane, Mitchell, Bartlett.
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2023 at 16:10
15- Eli Caven 14- Kwaku Asiedu 13- Tom Hoppe 12- Mat Hema
11- Joe Green
10- Jamie Benson 9- Sam Edwards Jake Elwood Morgan Veness Kieran Verden (debut) Kieran Frost George BN © Ewan Richards (debut) Ben Adams Benji Hoppe
16- Ben Brownlie 17- Seb Brownhill 18- Matty Collins 19- Geordie Irvine 20- Matt Dawson 21- Nahum Merigan (debut) 22- Jake Garside 23- Steff James
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2023 at 16:11
Ealing Trailfinders lineup to face Cornish Pirates: Ealing ring in the changes after their poor performance at the RAG. Cornish is the best lineout thrower of our hookers, so I like that change. Rayn Smid is crucial for marshalling the troops, so also glad to see him in the side. The change that concerns me is Dan Lancaster at 10. He has real spark and talent...but his kicking leaves much to be desired. 1 Kyle Whyte 2 Matt Cornish 3 Biyi Alo 4 Bobby De Wee 5 Barney Maddison 6 Jordy Reid 7 Richard Hardwick 8 Rayn Smid 9 Lloyd Williams 10 Dan Lancaster 11 Tom Collins 12 Reuben Bird-Tulloch 13 Dan O’Brien 14 Jonah Holmes 15 Cian Kelleher 16 Henry Walker 17 Sami Mavinga 18 George Davis 19 Danny Cutmore 20 Simon Uzokwe 21 Jordan Burns 22 Craig Willis 23 Will Montgomery
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2023 at 16:12
Ampthill 5 - 1 Caldy Cambridge 0 - 5 Coventry Hartpury 0 - 4 London Scottish Bedford Blues 5 - 2 Nottingham Ealing 5 - 1 Cornish Pirates
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Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2023 at 18:00
Pirates team to play Ealing Travel Agents:
15 Kyle Moyle 14 Matt McNab 13 Ioan Evans 12 Joe Elderkin 11 Robin Wedlake 10 Bruce Houston 9 Alex Schwarz; 1 Jacob Morris 2 Morgan Nelson 3 Matt Johnson 4 Hugh Bokenham 5 Steele Barker 6 Alex Everett 7 Will Gibson 8 John Stevens (captain). Replacements: 16 Rhys Williams 17 Billy Young 18 Marlen Walker 19 Charlie Rice 20 Ben Grubb 21 Ruaridh Dawson 22 Iwan Jenkins 23 Frankie Nowell
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Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2023 at 18:06
Ampthill 4 v Caldy 2 Cambridge 2 v Coventry 5 Hartpury 2 v London Scottish 5 Bedford Blues 5 v Nottingham 1 Ealing Trailfinders 5 v Cornish Pirates 0
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2023 at 21:51
Looks like Jake Garside has been relegated for Archie McParland, which is a shame as he was really developing last year at scrum half and Blues fans loved him.
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Posted By: knightandday
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 09:29
knightandday wrote:
Doncaster have a Bye week. I wouldn’t call playing Edinburgh’A’ a rest ![Wink Wink](smileys/smiley2.gif) |
Knights 24. 29 Edinburgh
1900 attendance
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Posted By: Donnyknightfan
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 12:04
Predictions: Ampthill 5 - 1 Caldy Cambridge 0 - 5 Coventry Hartpury 4 - 1 London Scottish Bedford 5 - 1 Nottingham Ealing 5 - 1 Cornish Pirates
------------- Donny Knights - best team in Yorkshire
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 14:50
HT Cambridge 0-26 Cov 0t-4t Hutler, Ryan, Martin, Salt.
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 15:21
Ampthill 21 - 26 Caldy FT
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 15:25
60 mins Cam 7-33 Cov 1t-5t Both sides have seen yellow once.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 15:27
And Cambridge immediately make the man advantage count. 14-33 2t-5t
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 15:28
Good result for Caldy, that.
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 15:32
Kimbo wrote:
Good result for Caldy, that. |
Couldn’t agree more and Ampthill got a try right near the end for the losing bonus point
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 15:32
Ealing 0 - Pirates 0 - 28' - sloppy stupid game of rugby, full of bonehead mistakes, and devoid of flair
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 15:34
Scottish doing a number on Hartpury 7 - 31 at ht
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 15:39
Ealing 5 - Pirates 0 - 32' Ealing get on the scoreboard courtesy of a trick play at the lineout, setting Cornish free from about 20ms.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 15:39
Another Cov YC and Cambridge go over again 19-33 3t-5t
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 15:43
Ealing 12 (2T) - Pirates 0 - 35' - Maybe I should have complained earlier.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 15:52
FT Cam 19-33 Cov 0-5
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 15:52
Blues (5 tries) 35-12 (2 tries) Nottingham
Blues have the slope and wind advantage for the 2nd half.
Probably the best up the slope performance for a long time. The score could be slightly larger to Blues. The ball has been in play probably longer than some other matches and Nottingham have come to play as well.
Blues making plenty of line breaks and Nottingham looked tired at the end of the half.
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 15:57
Kimbo wrote:
FT Cam 19-33 Cov0-5 |
Cambridge are making teams work hard for their points but clearly Cov are a strong performing team
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 15:59
Hartpury fighting back 26-31 now
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 16:11
castleparknight wrote:
Kimbo wrote:
FT Cam 19-33 Cov0-5 |
Cambridge are making teams work hard for their points but clearly Cov are a strong performing team |
Clearly not as strong as last season.
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 16:21
Blues ATT 2514
42-19 55 mins
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 16:26
Ealing 12 (2T) - Pirates 0 - 58' - back and forth second half. Much more entertaining. Unfortunately, Pirates player very badly injured, EMTs on the pitch.
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 16:28
Hartpury 33 - 31 Scottish FT game of two halves
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: oneagainstthehead
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 16:53
gerg_861 wrote:
Ealing 12 (2T) - Pirates 0 - 58' - back and forth second half. Much more entertaining. Unfortunately, Pirates player very badly injured, EMTs on the pitch. |
Match abandoned after 58 minutes at Vallia Way. Serious injury to Pirates player. Now conscious and talking, off to hospital. No other ambulance cover available.
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 16:57
Blues (5) 49-24 (1) Nottingham
Nottinghams had more of the ball 2nd half and deserved the point.
Blues weren’t great 2nd half but the damage was done in the first and also Nottingham played their part.
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Posted By: Abbotsman
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 17:12
Hartpury deservedly win it with final kick conversion. Scottish Nil points second half. Key point in game for me - midway through second half, Pury still adrift Scottish get kickable penalty went for quick tap & go then lost the ball. Great comeback Pury.
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 17:15
Ealing vs Pirates game called off following a serious player injury - I hope and wish that he recovers soon
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 18:04
From Ealing Twitter:
Ealing Trailfinders can confirm that today’s fixture against Cornish Pirates has been abandoned.
This is due to an injury to Cornish Pirates’ Ben Grubb, our thoughts are with him, his family and Cornish Pirates at this time. We hope he makes a speedy recovery.
The rearranged fixture will be announced in due course.
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Posted By: MarkyMark
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 18:38
Sounds awful, hope he’s ok? What happened?
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 18:41
gerg_861 wrote:
From Ealing Twitter:
Ealing Trailfinders can confirm that today’s fixture against Cornish Pirates has been abandoned.
This is due to an injury to Cornish Pirates’ Ben Grubb, our thoughts are with him, his family and Cornish Pirates at this time. We hope he makes a speedy recovery.
The rearranged fixture will be announced in due course.
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Wondered if it would stand or not, as usually it is 60 mins, but didn’t quite get there.
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Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 18:44
The red Card should be validated for the rearranged fixture
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Posted By: MarkyMark
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 19:10
Sorry meant… how did he hurt himself?
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Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 19:11
gerg_861 wrote:
From Ealing Twitter:
Ealing Trailfinders can confirm that today’s fixture against Cornish Pirates has been abandoned.
This is due to an injury to Cornish Pirates’ Ben Grubb, our thoughts are with him, his family and Cornish Pirates at this time. We hope he makes a speedy recovery. The rearranged fixture will be announced in due course.
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I think the whole rugby community as one will be wishing Ben a very speedy recovery. Without doubt all our thoughts are with him and his family at this time.
All the best
ST
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 19:15
What ST said.
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Posted By: oneagainstthehead
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 19:46
MarkyMark wrote:
Sorry meant… how did he hurt himself? |
It was a head contact in the tackle. Couldn’t see which part of tackler made contact with the head.Ball carrier was much taller than the tackler but was falling into the tackle. Ref immediately blew for a penalty but I don’t recall seeing a card - everyone’s attention was elsewhere.
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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 22:25
This was posted on the Northampton Saints forum, no idea where they got the info from, but sounds good news
Pirates “ Positive news, as Ben Grubb has been discharged from hospital following tests and scans coming back clear. Ben is on his way back to Cornwall and will continue his rehab at the club next week. Ben would also like to pass on his thanks for all the well wishes.”
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Posted By: Bluesman11
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 23:01
The information on the saints forum came from a statement on the Pirates website. The same statement also said that the Ealing player would’ve been red carded if the game had been restarted. It also mentions that when a game is abandoned due to non weather conditions, the decision will be made by the RFU as to outcome/rearrangement. Suspect it will be rearranged, but given pirates were only 12 points down away at Ealing and would’ve had an extra player for the final 20, suspect the rearrangement works to Ealing’s favour more than Pirates. I gather the abandonment was due to the lack of ambulance after the Pirates player was taking to hospital. I’m not sure what the requirements are for this, I would’ve thought clubs should be expected to be more prepared for this eventuality.
Going on to the Bedford game, I’m not sure there’s any clubs other than Ealing that will be able to live with us this season in dry weather conditions. This is the slickest Bedford team I’ve seen since the season we had Karl Dickson and Billy Twelvetrees pulling the strings from half back. Our pack is also much improved that we shouldn’t be a pushover anymore in wet conditions. Hope the weather is as dry for the Caldy rearrangement for the game that never was. Forecast for Ampthill away next week is not great so that could be a true test for this team’s potential. We have also been pretty lucky with injuries so far this season and I do think if a few key players got injured, we wouldn’t be able to maintain this level.
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2023 at 23:41
I agree there is no weak link in the Blues squad this season. The young Saints have to be very good players to make the 23 weekend squad. Other seasons we’ve had some squad fillers. Also Le Bourgeois has found his attacking skills again after a quieter season last year.
I did think the Nottingham 15 looks good and we kept the other Nottingham speedsters quiet.
I saw a stat that Blues averaged 38.9 points a game!
The real test will be the away games in the muddy conditions but 100% away record (1 win at Pirates) isn’t a bad start.
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Posted By: Cricks at 2
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2023 at 08:25
The Blues wrote:
I agree there is no weak link in the Blues squad this season. The young Saints have to be very good players to make the 23 weekend squad. Other seasons we’ve had some squad fillers. Also Le Bourgeois has found his attacking skills again after a quieter season last year.
I did think the Nottingham 15 looks good and we kept the other Nottingham speedsters quiet.
I saw a stat that Blues averaged 38.9 points a game!
The real test will be the away games in the muddy conditions but 100% away record (1 win at Pirates) isn’t a bad start.
| Agreed, this is the best Blues squad I have seen for many seasons. However there are some tough matches coming up. Doncaster away is always a very tough nut to crack and Cov home and away. Cov not woken up fully yet and they were (in my opinion) the best team to visit GR last season. I had them down to take the championship this season, long way to go.
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Posted By: Megrim
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2023 at 12:13
Replaying the match must be financially crippling for the Pirates. If foul play ended the match prematurely by a home player rendering an opponent unconscious ,even accidentally I hasten to add allegedly through foul play,shouldn't there be scope for compensation of travel arrangements etc ?
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Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2023 at 12:25
The Blues wrote:
Looks like Jake Garside has been relegated for Archie McParland, which is a shame as he was really developing last year at scrum half and Blues fans loved him. |
Garside might get summoned back to Franklin's Gardens depending on how their backline injuries develop.
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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2023 at 13:30
Bluesman11 wrote:
.... I gather the abandonment was due to the lack of ambulance after the Pirates player was taking to hospital. I’m not sure what the requirements are for this, I would’ve thought clubs should be expected to be more prepared for this eventuality.
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Difficult to see how a club could prepare for this situation. Should they have two ambulances on standby in case the first is required? Hardly practical is it?
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2023 at 13:50
WEvans wrote:
Bluesman11 wrote:
.... I gather the abandonment was due to the lack of ambulance after the Pirates player was taking to hospital. I’m not sure what the requirements are for this, I would’ve thought clubs should be expected to be more prepared for this eventuality.
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Difficult to see how a club could prepare for this situation. Should they have two ambulances on standby in case the first is required? Hardly practical is it? |
Back in the day Knights were playing at Old Deer Park and we had at least two players, stretchered of and taken away in Ambulances, not at the same time.
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Posted By: Bluesman11
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2023 at 13:50
Paul10 wrote:
The Blues wrote:
Looks like Jake Garside has been relegated for Archie McParland, which is a shame as he was really developing last year at scrum half and Blues fans loved him. |
Garside might get summoned back to Franklin's Gardens depending on how their backline injuries develop. |
It looks like Saints have converted Garside into a winger, so not sure we’ll see him at scrum half this season and he’ll likely be our wing cover. Saints have a host of injuries in the back 3 atm, so he may well get some prem games. I’m slightly concerned they’re going to come after French…
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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2023 at 17:19
WEvans wrote:
Bluesman11 wrote:
.... I gather the abandonment was due to the lack of ambulance after the Pirates player was taking to hospital. I’m not sure what the requirements are for this, I would’ve thought clubs should be expected to be more prepared for this eventuality.
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Difficult to see how a club could prepare for this situation. Should they have two ambulances on standby in case the first is required? Hardly practical is it? |
And a 3rd, just in case the first 2 are used?
Hardly practical.
As for Pirates being compensated for a second travel -suggest they take that up with the NHS
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2023 at 19:21
I am just surprised the number of ambulances that have to be taken out of action for sport. I saw that Pirates used to have a paramedics car but that's not good enough anymore.
I think as long as you have the necessary equipment, a doctor and paramedics all available within a few minutes that is a lot better than pretty much everyone else has in a workplace.
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2023 at 20:32
Nottingham 19 should be banned by a long time with this premeditated shoulder to the head captured by a fan.
https://x.com/txtdrive/status/1736465645171044649?s=61&t=1HHm4u6hOc7Zdt0gVDm5PA" rel="nofollow - https://x.com/txtdrive/status/1736465645171044649?s=61&t=1HHm4u6hOc7Zdt0gVDm5PA
One of the Blues tries for a try of the week contender
https://x.com/bedfordbluesrfc/status/1736473439421002207?s=61&t=1HHm4u6hOc7Zdt0gVDm5PA" rel="nofollow - https://x.com/bedfordbluesrfc/status/1736473439421002207?s=61&t=1HHm4u6hOc7Zdt0gVDm5PA
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2023 at 09:06
Shame that it takes an incident like this for the Champ to merit any press coverage in a UK national...
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/dec/16/ealing-v-cornish-pirates-match-abandoned-after-player-knocked-unconscious" rel="nofollow - https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/dec/16/ealing-v-cornish-pirates-match-abandoned-after-player-knocked-unconscious
Not sure most DoRs or media managers would be super keen on an analyst talking to the press about something like this...
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Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2023 at 13:22
On a lighter, more positive note, Ampthill's decision to provide free tickets purchased in advance for last Saturday's game against Caldy resulted in a crowd of nearly 1,300, and all tickets for the up and coming fixture with Bedford this Saturday have now been sold. I would absolutely love to be there. I think the ground capacity is 3,000 but I think the are allowing in less than that for health and safety purposes.
------------- Always trying to stay bright-eyed and bushy-tailed.
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Posted By: workerbee
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2023 at 13:37
There are insurance issues if a crowd is over 2000 and you need a crowd doctor.
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Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2023 at 13:40
Cherub wrote:
On a lighter, more positive note, Ampthill's decision to provide free tickets purchased in advance for last Saturday's game against Caldy resulted in a crowd of nearly 1,300, and all tickets for the up and coming fixture with Bedford this Saturday have now been sold. I would absolutely love to be there. I think the ground capacity is 3,000 but I think the are allowing in less than that for health and safety purposes. |
One possible Health and safety issue is people rolling down the steep hill on the side furthest from the club/woodland walk.
But nonetheless, well done Ampthill in getting a few punters in.
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2023 at 16:26
The Blues wrote:
Nottingham 19 should be banned by a long time with this premeditated shoulder to the head captured by a fan.
https://x.com/txtdrive/status/1736465645171044649?s=61&t=1HHm4u6hOc7Zdt0gVDm5PA" rel="nofollow - https://x.com/txtdrive/status/1736465645171044649?s=61&t=1HHm4u6hOc7Zdt0gVDm5PA
One of the Blues tries for a try of the week contender
https://x.com/bedfordbluesrfc/status/1736473439421002207?s=61&t=1HHm4u6hOc7Zdt0gVDm5PA" rel="nofollow - https://x.com/bedfordbluesrfc/status/1736473439421002207?s=61&t=1HHm4u6hOc7Zdt0gVDm5PA |
Bit of a headline grabber statement that ‘premeditated’ - I wonder would you have posted it if it was a Blue doing the clear out? The guy does dip into it, just poorly executed, I don’t see premeditated malice in it though.
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Posted By: greenpower
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2023 at 17:40
looking at video of the 19 hitting the other player should be red if you go on some of the decisions at the recent world cup
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Posted By: Greg
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2023 at 19:40
"It looks like Saints have converted Garside into a winger, so not sure we’ll see him at scrum half this season and he’ll likely be our wing cover. Saints have a host of injuries in the back 3 atm, so he may well get some prem games." Garside is a nifty scrum half, capable of creating real mayhem, but is way to small to feature as a winger. Yes, I know, Shane Williams etc can cut the mustard at the highest level but I thought that young Garside looked lost when he played on the wing for Bedford a few weeks ago.
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2023 at 20:24
Paul10 wrote:
[QUOTE=Cherub]On a lighter, more positive note, Ampthill's decision to provide free tickets purchased in advance for last Saturday's game against Caldy resulted in a crowd of nearly 1,300, and all tickets for the up and coming fixture with Bedford this Saturday have now been sold. I would absolutely love to be there. I think the ground capacity is 3,000 but I think the are allowing in less than that for health and safety purposes. |
One possible Health and safety issue is people rolling down the steep hill on the side furthest from the club/woodland walk.
But nonetheless, well done Ampthill in getting a few punters in.
I thought you were taking about Goldington Rd when you mentioned " rolling down the hill the steep hill the side furthest from the club"
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2023 at 08:21
castleparknight wrote:
The Blues wrote:
Nottingham 19 should be banned by a long time with this premeditated shoulder to the head captured by a fan.
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One of the Blues tries for a try of the week contender
https://x.com/bedfordbluesrfc/status/1736473439421002207?s=61&t=1HHm4u6hOc7Zdt0gVDm5PA" rel="nofollow - https://x.com/bedfordbluesrfc/status/1736473439421002207?s=61&t=1HHm4u6hOc7Zdt0gVDm5PA |
Bit of a headline grabber statement that ‘premeditated’ - I wonder would you have posted it if it was a Blue doing the clear out? The guy does dip into it, just poorly executed, I don’t see premeditated malice in it though. |
He knew exactly what he was doing, the Blues player didn’t move, it wasn’t like other reds card that can seem harsh and because of a size differential. He didn’t even need to try and clear out a player nowhere near the ball when the ruck was already lost. Also the referee seemed to be looking straight at it even more worryingly.
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Posted By: Cricks at 2
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2023 at 08:36
Greg wrote:
"It looks like Saints have converted Garside into a winger, so not sure we’ll see him at scrum half this season and he’ll likely be our wing cover. Saints have a host of injuries in the back 3 atm, so he may well get some prem games."Garside is a nifty scrum half, capable of creating real mayhem, but is way to small to feature as a winger. Yes, I know, Shane Williams etc can cut the mustard at the highest level but I thought that young Garside looked lost when he played on the wing for Bedford a few weeks ago. | He did look a bit lost, but still managed to score. Jake may be small but he is powerfully built and of course has that amazing burst of speed. I think scrum half game is good, he can kick and passes the ball well. I was expecting him to alternate with the classy Alex Day. However Archie McParland is shaping up well and there is also ‘Jiffy’ Lennon as back up, so competition is high.
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Posted By: SK 88
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2023 at 11:41
WEvans wrote:
Bluesman11 wrote:
.... I gather the abandonment was due to the lack of ambulance after the Pirates player was taking to hospital. I’m not sure what the requirements are for this, I would’ve thought clubs should be expected to be more prepared for this eventuality.
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Difficult to see how a club could prepare for this situation. Should they have two ambulances on standby in case the first is required? Hardly practical is it? |
Two ambulances is one of the many derided Minimum Standards for the Premiership, precisely because of situations like this. A Cup semi final was delayed for 15 minutes at Leicester in 1992 because the medics & ambulance was taking a fan to hospital following a heart attack & they had to wait for them to return.
I don't think adequate medical cover is particularly impractical for a sport where you are paying the players & accepting money from the spectators.
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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2023 at 13:23
SK 88 wrote:
WEvans wrote:
Bluesman11 wrote:
.... I gather the abandonment was due to the lack of ambulance after the Pirates player was taking to hospital. I’m not sure what the requirements are for this, I would’ve thought clubs should be expected to be more prepared for this eventuality.
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Difficult to see how a club could prepare for this situation. Should they have two ambulances on standby in case the first is required? Hardly practical is it? |
Two ambulances is one of the many derided Minimum Standards for the Premiership, precisely because of situations like this. A Cup semi final was delayed for 15 minutes at Leicester in 1992 because the medics & ambulance was taking a fan to hospital following a heart attack & they had to wait for them to return.
I don't think adequate medical cover is particularly impractical for a sport where you are paying the players & accepting money from the spectators. |
So according to your logic every club where players are paid and spectators pay money should have a minimum of two ambulances like the Premiership.
Sorry as I said before it's hardly practical is it?
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2023 at 14:19
Given that in most matches, the ambulance just sits there.
If you have a paramedic and a doctor and a team of physios trained in first aid - with a properly stocked medical room - then having the ambulance on call is probably sufficient - and that is what most amateur and semi pro players have.
And the only time we have needed the air ambulance to land, was to bring extra morphine for a Shelford 3rd XV player. His studs stuck in the ground as he chased down and tackled from behind, and his leg tried to move in a way legs don't.
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2024 at 17:15
Ealing vs. Pirates rescheduled for 10th February.
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