National 1 - week 12 (7th December) latest scores
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Topic: National 1 - week 12 (7th December) latest scores
Posted By: Rothman2
Subject: National 1 - week 12 (7th December) latest scores
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 03:05
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Following Richmond’s fine 7-5 win at Rams last night, a further 6 games are scheduled for later this afternoon. As far as I am aware only one game (Moseley v Esher) has an inspection planned (8.00 am) & I will let you know the outcome as soon as it is known. This could change should conditions worsen. As of now the schedule is;
15 MINUTES BEFORE KICK OFF Further news will follow as available. As usual good luck to all teams.
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Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 08:28
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Moseley v Esher postponed. ------------- Cauliflower ear. |
Posted By: Rabbie Burns
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 08:38
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Seems rather still and reasonably dry from my hotel room in Rotherham but let’s see when I go outside 😄😄 ------------- So many Christians not enough Lions |
Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 11:04
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So we are down to five games. Must admit I was surprised the Plymouth Albion game is still on when Plymouth Argyle called their home game against Oxford United off yesterday. I would imagine though due to distance involved, Darlington would already have travelled down. Please note I have inserted a link in the Sedge v Rosslyn Park game which is being shown on the excellent Sedge TV YouTube channel. The live link will be open from around 2.15, which is 15 minutes before kick off. Games still on :
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Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 14:09
| Roth kicking towards the cricket club end first half against a strong wind. |
Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 14:15
| Try Club |
Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 14:16
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Con missed Roth 0 Club 5
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Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 14:16
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RM2 Brilliant as always on the updates. Rosslyn Park delayed for 30 minutes by the wonderful West Coast line. If they thought that was bad their return train has been cancelled. Torrential rain here 15 minutes before Kick Off. Good luck all All the best ST ------------- Give him one with handles on |
Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 14:18
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No updates from Leicester?
Stay safe Sedge.
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Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 14:32
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Try Roth. Shortall in the corner. 5-5
Not a chance to convert in that wind
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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 14:35
Nothing from Dings or the Lions.
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Rothman2 wrote:Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 14:39
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Sedge 3 RP 0
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Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 14:42
| Plymouth 7 Darlington MP 0 |
Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 14:44
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Club miss a pen in front of the posts right on half time. HT Roth 5 Blackheath 5
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Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 14:45
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Sedge 10 RP 0 ------------- Give him one with handles on |
Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 14:52
| Half Time Leicester Lions 15 Dings Crusaders 5 |
Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 14:53
| Plymouth 14 Darlington MP 0 |
Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:00
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Sedge 15 RP 0 ------------- Give him one with handles on |
Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:01
Have you got the wind Sedge…….or is it the beans? 😜
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Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:02
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Roth 12 Blackheath 5 Brazulier try con Hayes
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Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:10
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Sedge 18 RP 0 RM2 The Wind, the slope and the momentum. 😂😂 RP have all that second half me thinks. All the best ST ------------- Give him one with handles on |
Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:12
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Sedge 23 RP 0 ------------- Give him one with handles on |
Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:17
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Sedge 23 RP 0 HT it’s all uphill now. ------------- Give him one with handles on |
Posted By: sedgley dave
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:20
| Watching from home, ST, no chance of me going out in that! Beware low-flying trees. It's going to be a long second half.... |
Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:23
| Roth 12 Club 12 |
Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:28
SD We were looking for you. If you note not many behind the posts today. We have all gone back in the club house watching it on the live stream in the warmth.😂😂😂 ------------- Give him one with handles on |
Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:30
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Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:45
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Brilliant Drop goal by Ollivant last play. Final score Roth 15 Blackheath 12
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Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:48
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Well played Blackheath. Very tactically astute despite Roth controlling things up front. You have to say in these conditions a win is all that matters. It’s great how we are winning these tight games. Safe journey home.
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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:52
| Leicester Lions 22-15 Dings FT |
Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:53
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Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 16:08
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Sedge 28 RP 0 BP to Sedge ------------- Give him one with handles on |
Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 16:14
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Sedge 28 (5) RP 0 (0)FT
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Posted By: CJB1
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 16:37
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Stortford 14-7 Sale after 76' ------------- "What I need is a strong drink and a peer group" |
Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 16:38
TODAYS RESULTS:
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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 16:38
| Plymouth 24- 14 DMP FT |
Posted By: CJB1
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 16:40
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Stortford a man down in the closing moments. ------------- "What I need is a strong drink and a peer group" |
Posted By: CJB1
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 16:43
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BS14-7 Sale FC FT ------------- "What I need is a strong drink and a peer group" |
Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 19:05
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As my club's game was postponed, I went to watch my local club Alcester v Worcester.ive never been so cold watching a game plus with the gale force winds being blown nearly off my feet.into the second half and a scoreline of 43-5 in favour of Alcester ,I reckon the ref approached the captain's and must have said the result looks it will remain the same,shall I blow up and and and he duly did.After a few Guinness,now at home warming up.thats rugby for you. ------------- Cauliflower ear. |
Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 19:33
Good result for Leicester, maybe they'll be around for Nat 1 rugby next season after all. Was it up and coming Saints v up and coming Bears in the end? Not what Nat 1 rugby is about in my opinion. Rotherham grinding out another win against southern opposition. Not sure they'll be so lucky on the road in the return fixtures. Game of the day for me was at Sedgley. Tigers take a bow as I cannot the remember the last time Rosslyn Park were nilled by anyone. A mercurial club who flatter to deceive year after year, despite spending a small fortune on player's contracts.The title will now be won by one of '3 Rs' - Richmond, Rams or Rotherham.
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Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 20:37
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Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 21:00
I think I may have found it and it was the best part of 10 years ago during the 2015-16 season and a similar trend with the Londoners again being nilled by northerners in the winter mud that they cannot handle. https://www.pitchero.com/clubs/rosslynpark/teams/80358/match-centre/1-1560885" rel="nofollow - |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 21:07
Nope it was two Leicester Tigers, one Northampton Saints, one Coventry and one Sale Shark.
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Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 21:24
Brilliant result Sedge. Have a great evening 👏👏👏
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Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 21:26
So just 1/3 of the team drafted in to try and keep the National 1 dream alive  . But to what end?Where did the pinnacle of traditional club rugby in England go wrong? Thankfully clubs like Leicester Lions and Bristol Crusaders are few and far between in this league.
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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 21:44
I wish I could get the fish to bite as easily as you do, you clearly haven't read my posts before or seen the interview with the Lions head coach, if you had you might just have an understanding of what is going on. Your maths is cr@p too 5 is not a third of the matchday squad of 20.
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Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 22:07
Which fish is that then? Apologies, I hadn't realised it was a third of your 'squad' of 20, rather than a third of your starting XV, that makes it so much better. Maths was never my strong point. As a long-time follower of National League rugby, I find it difficult to accept soulless nothing teams like Leicester Lions and Dings Crusaders competing at this level, over established true rugby clubs like Cinderford and Taunton of recent Nat 1 vain. But then that is the rules and I'd never for-go the jeopardy of promotion and relegation like the top 2 tiers of club rugby have. It is crucial. Having said that, what is the point in turning out each week with a bunch of Tigers and Saints mercenaries in front of a couple of hundred 'fans'?
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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 22:49
| My you are bitter as well as ill informed, clearly you will not let the facts get in the way of a good rant, so I'll park it here. |
Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 23:46
| No bitterness, just highlighting the presence of artificial hodgepodge rugby 'clubs' in England's third tier. If that is your thing, good luck to you, but it's not for me, and its not something the league benefits from in any shape or form. |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2024 at 00:19
And I thought The Championship was a mess - it seems to have infected National One. Let's hope that DR is reduced to 3, season long, loans (better still, 0). ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: Storty
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2024 at 08:30
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I'd be in full support of a max 3 dual reg. I don't mind a couple of youngsters from the prem in a team. I actually think that's good for both the youngsters aiming for a pro career and the senior national 1 players. But when a club becomes reliant on another to stay at their level they lose the identity of the club. Look at the championship, Ampthill and London Scottish are no longer independent clubs they're just prem under 21 teams. I'd much rather get relegated to the level the club should be at than rely exclusively on loans to stay up.
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Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2024 at 10:34
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Storty Good morning
I totally agree with you and the above 2 postings (FHLH/Nat 1) At the end of the day it is up to each club to decide how they want to progress and good luck to them in whichever way they proceed. I believe in club rugby. A club should be a beacon of development, progression and support of the game, by having a growing self sufficient entity which adds to the growth of the game. I can’t see the point of a club based on another clubs player development. It’s great to see nearly 400 sat down for our prematch yesterday. The Sale FC, Manchester derby Christmas game will be greater than that, and the prematch was sold out in early October. Sedge are not Unique in this regards, far from it, there are lots of clubs up and down the country than can better our effort and that is great news for the game. Yes we all need to do more but club rugby will not survive if it allows a very narrow non sustainable un controlled player recruitment, based purely on a larger clubs player development. What's the point of that. All the best ST ------------- Give him one with handles on |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2024 at 10:42
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To join this debate I would give a stat from the Lions website as an example. Charlie Davies is in his second year as a Tigers academy player who is on dual registration with the Lions, he has played in 8 matches so far this season and played a similar amount last season. He is not parachuted in "just to prop up" the club, he is an active part of the Lions building his experience and career, just as Jack Van Poortvleit, George Martin and James Whitcombe did when they were with the Lions in Nat2(and no not the year they were promoted from the West, but in the South). Clubs like Tigers and the Saints have players involved all over the rugby community, with players in the BUCS program and on loan across the leagues, one prop would have been on the bench for Moseley yesterday had the game not been cancelled. There are players who have been at a few other sides including Chinnor for example. Now through no fault of these players, they don't have access to competitive rugby every week(the RFU should sort this I agree) so arrangements are with many clubs not just the two you seem to have a problem with. Did you come on here vilifying Sale FC when they were fielding Sharks first team players a couple of years back when pushing for promotion? When the Lions were promoted, all but a couple of the entire squad had been at the Lions as Lions for at least 5 years, many now retired had over 100 appearances for the club. Had the Lions been winning every league with these dual registered players I could perhaps understand your venom, but clearly they are not. The Lions are a young well coached side that their local Premiership side recognise as a good club to let their future(and in some cases England's) prospects learn their trade. Doing an apprenticeship if you will, just like people of all walks of life did do in industry, commerce and hairdressing(to name but a few). Who are you to deny them this opportunity in the absence of an alternative? Is it just that you are unaware of the good the game is doing for these young players, or are you just jealous that your club has not taken the opportunity to join in this part of our game?
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Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2024 at 11:03
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TB Good morning
Not sure who you are aiming your reply at. Lions can do what they like. No jealousy on my part at all just a differing view to yours on how the club game should survive. With respect, Sedge had 5 years at the Championship level some years ago with a quasi link up with Sharks (not solely) similar to some clubs approach today. We had good attendances but the club started to loose its heart and it’s way. It was a First XV entity but no one knew whose.😂😂. The club house was empty from 18-00. That was a big change from previous times. The re-organisation of the championship re-focussed our efforts on who we are and what we are to the sport within our community. Our club at this moment and for the last good few seasons (10 or so) is a happier place and it is in a good healthy position in league structure and as beacon for Rugby Union in the community. In fact Leicester Lions benefitted from our academy when players signed by Northampton Saints were then loaned out to Lions. Bizzare I know. As stated previously good luck to all clubs and whichever route they chose to take. My opinion is just that, my opinion nothing more or less. All the best ST
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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2024 at 11:03
Bur Cambridge have had Northampton Saints loanees playing for them, why the hypocrisy?
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Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2024 at 11:27
RM2 Thanks very much, oh and BTW contrary to Rabbies previous rantings on my predictions for your game yesterday. It was a case of reverse psychology. I always knew you would beat Club. They are a good side but it’s seems Yorkshire grit took the day. It looks like a great season for the Mighty Roth. Enjoy boys  All the best ST
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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2024 at 12:31
| I did write a bit of an introduction to the :Lions when the club were first promoted, some clearly haven't read it, so in condensed form. Leicester Lions were formed 26 years ago when Wigston and Westleigh rugby clubs decided to merge into one. They rose into National 2 North and remained there fore quite a number of years, then level transferred to Nat 2 South and finally West. In that time they began the process of building a minis and juniors, they now have a colts side and have their first couple of players that are truly home grown. Although both original clubs had a long history, Wigston founded just after the second world war in 1946 and Westleigh in 1904, the Lions in their current format are still building the club. With the opening of their new club house they are becoming involved in the local community more, but with Welford Road only 4 miles down the road, they are not likely to ever get a large following as some town sides get. They have found some great support from sponsors, but will always find it difficult to have a large squad of players that some clubs can afford, financial diligence is key. |
Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2024 at 21:01
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