New pitch for Coventry...
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Topic: New pitch for Coventry...
Posted By: OldNick
Subject: New pitch for Coventry...
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2019 at 15:54
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http://www.coventryrugby.co.uk/2019/06/18/new-pitch-to-put-butts-park-arena-at-heart-of-coventry-sporting-community/" rel="nofollow - Announcement on the Coventry Rugby website Well, that should make a major improvement to the playing conditions at the BPA. More significantly for the club as a whole, it’ll remove the need to train elsewhere, and allow the other users of the pitch to continue, without over-using the ground. |
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Posted By: Bedfordian
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2019 at 14:12
Cue the debate about player welfare...... 
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2019 at 15:10
Yes. I wasn't going to mention it... ------------- Our Club |
Bedfordian wrote:Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 07:25
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surely the sporting kit that is available these days would circumvent the abrasion issues associated to 3G pitches (i.e. skins other sporting brands are available) ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: Paul Rossborough
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 07:45
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Aahhhh THIS is why we are now partnered with Skins!! Good choice. ------------- All views expressed are my own |
Posted By: Insignificant Tick
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 10:24
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You are not allowed to wear full length skins on the legs. Player welfare be damned.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 11:35
There's one. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Insignificant Tick
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 12:13
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You're welcome !
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 12:16
I thought I had seen players in them, must be tattoos ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: Dad
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 12:27
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i was on a pitch where a ref made a player (one of those skinny backs) pull up leggings until there was "clear visible skin between pulled up socks and shorts/legging bottoms" I don't know if that was his interpretation or something codified So I guess shorter socks and 3/4 length leggings that went to just below knee would comply and protect |
Posted By: Cannon
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 12:29
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The laws of the game say Shorts, Underwear, Ankle Supports and Socks - only Ladies may wear leggings (Cotton blend tights). ------------- Rucks and mauls may bust my balls, but whips and chains excite me!! |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 12:30
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A player wears a jersey, shorts and underwear, socks and boots.
------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: oneagainstthehead
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 12:42
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Law 4 specifies that a player will wear jersey, shorts, underwear, socks and boots. Female players may also wear, among other additional things, long cotton based tights under shorts and socks (rationale is probably for cultural/religious reasons). The implication appears to be that men are not allowed full leg coverings. Sorry C, our posts crossed. ------------- Speak softly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 12:50
Not sure that rule would stand up in court in these days of equality ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Cannon
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 13:00
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Gotta agree the ladies additions leave World Rugby open for criticism on everything apart for the chest pads! ------------- Rucks and mauls may bust my balls, but whips and chains excite me!! |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 13:47
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Pah. Sexist pigs. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 13:47
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One would think that with the advent of artificial playing surfaces that this may well be in the pipeline for review. As a male player I would claim my rights are being infringed if women could wear "legging" style tights and I couldn't - thus creating a very quick knee jerk reaction of "ok but must be of matching club kit" criteria. ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 13:48
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I personally think all skins that show should be in club colours to reduce possibility of confusion. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 13:50
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I have a Life of Brian scene running through my brain cell... ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Dad
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 14:04
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I have also been at a U15 girls game (in January) where a ref refused to allow play to start until 3 players removed leggings despite being offered a view of that rule (I believe it is reg 19 from memory) - hilariously one of his boots fell apart during the game and his whistle stopped working so Karma rules What i meant was a set of long undershorts could reach just below the knee protect knees whilst still conforming to the regs as "underwear" not leggins
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 14:27
and likewise a long sleeved vest to just over the elbows or revert back to longs sleeved kits (body forming mind) ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 20:44
Pretty sure James Pritchard had some leggings type clothing on a particularly cold day a few years ago and was made to remove the clothing, which he did on the side of the pitch.
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Posted By: Guinness John
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2019 at 13:49
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From memory, that was in the North of England, according to some people I know, ie Sedgley Park, good job it wasn't the cup game at Aspatria !!! ------------- Bedford Blues Supporter of the Year 2010 - 2011 |
Posted By: Rinkadink
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2019 at 10:47
I've seen players wear full length sleeves to the wrist in the premiership. For example Alex Goode is always in one isn't he? |
Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2019 at 16:04
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Yes he is ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2019 at 19:54
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Similarly Ben Spencer from Sarries ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2019 at 19:59
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Send for Prince https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjb8eO0bJ3U" rel="nofollow - Obolensky's shorts ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2019 at 21:34
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Having now watched the u20 World final, I didn't spot any damaged knees or elbows. Good pitch maintenance? Mind you, I've never noticed any damage in the UK at games I've been to. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Insignificant Tick
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2019 at 10:36
Have a look at one of the England games where a winger had large plasters on both knees and was in obvious discomfort but could not come off.
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2019 at 11:34
Do you know if any or all of the retained playing squad were consulted. I assume they would be and obviously the player welfare would be discussed in detail. It seems that most clubs relish the idea of 3G or hybrid surfaces. the two grass pitches at Ealing have been transformed into quality grass pitches, now that they are not over used by the whole club. Ealing Trailfinders have invested in a fully floodlit second 3G pitch. The 3G are used by local schools, Universities, the clubs mini`s and youth teams, three Academy age groups and occasionally the England Squad. This is in addition to Ealing Trailfinders Pro squad and the professional rugby league team , the London Bronco`s . All of these teams generate income for the Trailfinders sports club. ------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff. |
Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2019 at 12:02
| The discussions with players have been ongoing for over a year, and the intent to change the pitch has been part of contract negotiations. Some were extremely pro-change, some less so. It may have affected some renewal decisions. |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2019 at 13:20
Was that on the same pitch? No clues in your posting as to where it was. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2019 at 07:20
It was on the same pitch, however I don't think his obvious discomfort was because of that (the pitch and his grazed knees) - I think it was from a tackle collision ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2019 at 08:26
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Fairly Insignificant then? ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2019 at 21:04
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A few pictures of progress... https://www.facebook.com/OldNickRugbyPhotos/photos/?tab=album&album_id=851328151889675&mt_nav=1&ref=page_internal |
Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2019 at 21:12
That is the best condition I have ever seen the pitch in at Butts Road ! ------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff. |
Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2019 at 07:33
 ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2019 at 17:55
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Another week on - a lot of progress. https://www.facebook.com/pg/OldNickRugbyPhotos/photos/?tab=album&album_id=856314198057737" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/pg/OldNickRugbyPhotos/photos/?tab=album&album_id=856314198057737
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2019 at 18:38
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It looks really good progress. I think it will change how Coventry play. They seemed to be willing to run the ball from anywhere on the pitch the 3G will speed their game up even further. ------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff. |
Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2019 at 20:50
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Latest progress photos now online at https://www.facebook.com/pg/OldNickRugbyPhotos/photos/?tab=album&album_id=860646820957808" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/pg/OldNickRugbyPhotos/photos/?tab=album&album_id=860646820957808
The drainage layers are now nearly complete. Next, to build a kerb around them, cover with a coat of porous asphalt, and then start building the pitch on top.
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Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2019 at 18:16
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Another week, another set of progress photos. https://www.facebook.com/pg/OldNickRugbyPhotos/photos/?tab=album&album_id=864848070537683" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/pg/OldNickRugbyPhotos/photos/?tab=album&album_id=864848070537683 Stone layer complete, kerbs in progress. Next week porous asphalt, bonded rubber chips, and then the pit
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Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2019 at 13:27
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Two more sets of photos today... https://www.facebook.com/OldNickRugbyPhotos/photos/?tab=album&album_id=870253256663831 - Monday. Tidying up the stone layer https://www.facebook.com/OldNickRugbyPhotos/photos/?tab=album&album_id=870288279993662 - Tuesday - Tarmac
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Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 20:02
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Meanwhile, back at the BPA the tarmac layer is complete, apart from the locations of the pop-up irrigation sprays, which are expected to arrive very shortly. It all felt very peaceful down there this morning. It's still a controlled site, but much of the heavy equipment has gone, and only about half a dozen truck-loads of spoil needed to be collected and removed. Sp, now the irrigation sprays need to be fitted, and their six locations competed and tarmacked, and then the soft top layers can start going down. Sockets need to be fitted for the goalposts, and for the various flags needed for both codes and football - apparently slots will be put in for the flags, and then the final exact sockets fitted in the slots at the precise positions to match the pitch markings, once the green top is down. Anyway - pictures of pristine level tarmac available here... https://www.facebook.com/pg/OldNickRugbyPhotos/photos/?tab=album&album_id=873575359664954" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/pg/OldNickRugbyPhotos/photos/?tab=album&album_id=873575359664954
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Posted By: Guinness John
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2019 at 13:12
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Looks very like that of Bedford Athletic which from my totally unqualified eye is a superb facility. Maybe the Blues could train on it prior to going to Coventry. ------------- Bedford Blues Supporter of the Year 2010 - 2011 |
Posted By: Eel
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2019 at 15:01
------------- If you're not living on the edge you're taking up too much room |
Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2019 at 07:57
Thanks Eel. There’s a lot spoken about AGPs, but very little detail about how they’re built, or how they work. I’ve found that making a weekly visit has been fascinating (even if just seeing a complete coat of tarmac slightly less so), and seeing the process from end to end has made me realise how big a job it is to get from a muddy grass pitch to (eventually) the artificial replacement. I’ve been particularly impressed by the precision, and attention to detail. As it’s technically a building site during the process, access is limited, and as it’s the sort of job that most clubs only do once. I’ve considered it worth posting the updates here. Ok, the pictures are of Coventry, but the process would be much the same elsewhere - and generally invisible to the average supporter until it’s finished. There should be another update next Monday or Tuesday. The heavy equipment used so far has gone, and now it’s jyst the top three inches to do. |
Posted By: Eel
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2019 at 08:50
------------- If you're not living on the edge you're taking up too much room |
Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2019 at 13:02
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Latest updates from the ground. The six irrigation spray heads, and associated access manholes are now in place just off the pitch, and their holes are being tidied up so that they can be tarmacked and have the top layers applied. The water tank to feed them is in place. Very shiny it is too. Flag and post holes have been set into the pitch. There are a lot of them as Rugby Union, and League, and association football all have flags in different places. The main runs of fences are in place, with gates being fitted on t he Broomfield side. While I was there today, the laying of the shock absorbing layer of bonded rubber particles was started. https://www.facebook.com/pg/OldNickRugbyPhotos/photos/?tab=album&album_id=877751052580718 Permission to access the site and take these photos granted by kind permission of the club.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2019 at 23:39
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Coming on nicely. They started laying the carpet today. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Eel
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2019 at 07:07
------------- If you're not living on the edge you're taking up too much room |
Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2019 at 14:11
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It's raining hard at the BPA, so there's not a lot going on out of doors. Here are the latest pictures, as the green carpet starts to go down... https://www.facebook.com/pg/OldNickRugbyPhotos/photos/?tab=album&album_id=883627005326456" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/pg/OldNickRugbyPhotos/photos/?tab=album&album_id=883627005326456
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Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2019 at 11:33
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We’re getting there. Probably only one more update to come, but to tell the truth it looks almost finished... The matting is all down, and the sand layer is nearly complete. Only the rubber crumb layer still to go down. Yesterday (after the photos) the posts went up. https://m.facebook.com/OldNickRugbyPhotos/photos/?tab=album&album_id=892145631141260&mt_nav=1&ref=page_internal" rel="nofollow - Photos here |
Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2019 at 11:35
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Looking good Nick, it will be great for your lads to have such a consistent surface to play on. ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2019 at 11:37
There have been suggestions we should paint it mud brown for familiarity. |
Posted By: Eel
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2019 at 13:47
 ------------- If you're not living on the edge you're taking up too much room |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2019 at 09:27
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The pitch has now been tested and handed over to the club. First game is played on it today, by Coventry United, vs Haughmond, in the Midlands Premier. Cov start training on it on Monday. ------------- Our Club |