Dicky Evans statement
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Topic: Dicky Evans statement
Posted By: gerg_861
Subject: Dicky Evans statement
Date Posted: 03 May 2024 at 07:45
| Dicky Evans calls out the RFU for dithering, and also sets out financial concerns. https://cornish-pirates.com/rugby/club-statement-from-dicky-evans/" rel="nofollow - https://cornish-pirates.com/rugby/club-statement-from-dicky-evans/ |
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Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 03 May 2024 at 07:54
| From what I have heard it’s the Premiership that are holding up decisions, not the RFU. The key sticking point is merit-based promotion/relegation with the Premiership insisting on their MOS. |
Posted By: *Stalwart
Date Posted: 03 May 2024 at 09:51
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This is pretty positive and it would be great if we can sign the majority of the present squad, and our brilliant coaches, for another season. It is criminal that the RFU/PRL have not sorted out the shape of the Championship for next season when this one is almost over. It's impossible to make any proper plans or attract investors and sponsors when there is no clarity. I really hope that the Championship clubs remain united and insist on automatic promotion/relegation, the abolition of "P" shares and the parachute payment and a much more realistic set of criteria for grounds. PRL must recognise that promotion/relegation is a good thing for them too. Sarries, Harlequins and Northampton have all been relegated and came back stronger (admittedly the ridiculous parachute payment gave them a massive advantage to bounce straight back). The jeopardy of relegation creates big games at the end of the season and would be attractive to broadcasters. If there was, for example, a top four playoff system, with the winner gaining automatic promotion, in The Championship there would be some massive games at this stage of the season. ------------- *Stalwart |
Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 03 May 2024 at 10:10
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Abolition of the P shares will never happen as it would require the Premiership shareholders to vote for it. The parachute payment is based on the P shares ownership so will also never happen. The Championship intends to hold out for automatic, merit-based promotion, which is right. Win that round and then the impact of a successful promoted Club needs to be seen. The only MOS that should count is the 5,000 ground limit under the Safety of Sportsgrounds Act. 14th June is the cut-off date. The only change to the Championship that may come for next season is knowing about promotion. All other changes are for 25/26.
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Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 03 May 2024 at 12:05
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Surely the existence of the P shares makes auto promotion or relegation unlikely. If I owned part of a business why would I agree to not benefit from it? Championship clubs should be allowed to buy smaller P shares.
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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 03 May 2024 at 12:46
| Personally I can't see why any Championship club would want to gain promotion to the bankrupt basket case that is the Premiership. |
Posted By: *Stalwart
Date Posted: 03 May 2024 at 14:24
Fair point. I guess we're hoping (distant hope) that things will improve and the game will eventually be run by people with a smidgen of common sense. ------------- *Stalwart |
WEvans wrote:Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 03 May 2024 at 14:51
I do not understand why The Championship is not attractive to broadcasters. I just stopped for some lunch and turned on Sky Sports to see what was on. I chose to watch the Live County cricket match between Lancashire and Kent being played at Old Trafford. The four people sitting in the crowd looked frozen to death, the two commentators sounded like they would both be going to sleep any time soon, and during the three overs I watched, not one single run was scored. How dare they think they are "entertaining" us with this absolute drivel and ignore the fact that a game between Bedford and Ampthill at a packed Goldington Road would be far more attractive to both viewers and advertisers alike. ------------- Always trying to stay bright-eyed and bushy-tailed. |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 03 May 2024 at 14:55
The difference being that Cricket has negotiated fees for coverage whilst the RFU have failed to do so. Championship clubs should insist on being responsible for all aspects of TV coverage ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 03 May 2024 at 15:45
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Cricket is useful to broadcasters because it takes so long and fills the airwaves. Champ rugby generally happens at the same time as other rugby. For it to be TV content that would have to change.
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 03 May 2024 at 18:11
French broadcasters manage Top 14 and Div 2 ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 03 May 2024 at 18:30
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Yes, but they are broadcasting to more people, fewer of whom are addicted to soccer. More relevant, the SRU sold rights to Super 6 - if only to BBC online. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 03 May 2024 at 18:47
Yes Pro D2 is Thursday and Friday nights. It'll take a change but very doable.
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Posted By: Whistle watcher
Date Posted: 04 May 2024 at 07:58
It’s not like there aren’t enough channels that could be used…
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 04 May 2024 at 10:11
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I recall the there was an offer for TV coverage on Thursday nights, on one of the smaller channels, about two seasons ago, and the clubs turned it down. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 04 May 2024 at 10:13
Clubs didn't want to play on Thursday evenings. Why would they? It'd be disastrous for crowd figures - Friday is bad enough. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 04 May 2024 at 10:52
They do this on S4C for the Welsh Premiership. Crowd figures are pretty rubbish but it's part of the S4C package so probably the main income after the WRU.
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Posted By: workerbee
Date Posted: 04 May 2024 at 11:19
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This Link seems to have gone off topic. It started with Dicky Evans Statement about the future of Cornish Pirates after his funding ends. From the Statements he indicates that all the players are being put on one year contracts and funds are guaranteed for the first half of the season. There are interested parties but they are waiting until they find out about future Funding from the RFU and criteria required to stay in "Prem 2" . Pirates like many other clubs in the National Leagues are predominately supported by a main benefactor, and their other sources of income cannot sustain their current squad levels. It is critical that the matter is sorted before the start on next season for the future of many clubs is in doubt.
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 05 May 2024 at 09:47
| The ‘investor fatigue’ amid continued lack of progress towards solution of second-tier situation outlined here is very concerning - some parallels with the situation in Jersey last summer… & that didn’t end well |