Start date??
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Topic: Start date??
Posted By: Whistle watcher
Subject: Start date??
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 08:21
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What do you want to do ? New mail< id="mailtoEmail">Copy< id="mailtoClipboardTo">I know there's a thread about glimmers of a start to our season but if 16th January, the touted start date, is correct, when will we hear officially, and see a fixture list? Or might I just as well bark at the moon? |
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Posted By: Member728
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 10:59
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16th January start is awaiting Govt announcement on Wednesday If it goes ahead then a full league fixture with amended rules if not Jan 30th which will not be a full league fixture but pool games After that .......
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Posted By: PiffPaff
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 16:41
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Gents, NCA Clusters will start in February thats been agreed and announced. RFU Clusters to start 23rd January.
Championship - well if it doesn't start by 16th January a full League programme means games in June so go figure. ------------- Crouch, Bind, Tweet! |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 19:18
| The way things are going, whenever the start is we will probably then be hit with a big freak snow storm, which will delay the league. |
Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2020 at 10:00
| Never mind the snow - get ready for 3rd and 4th waves of the virus. People continue to behave totally irresponsibly. Why do folk think that because the government relax some of the measures that all of a sudden its safe to be climbing over one another to do their Christmas shopping? |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2020 at 12:55
Very true - horrifying pictures of loads of youngish people filling a street on 1st day shops re-opened, no social distancing, no masks, no care. Just because you can doesn't mean you need to. It is the attitude of younger people that causes Covid to spread so quickly. I took my wife out for a meal on Friday evening, to celebrate my birthday - I ensured the pub we went to had strict measures in place and felt as safe as we could be - however, would I do it every week even, definitely not. ------------- RAID ON |
Thatbloke wrote:Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2020 at 15:33
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Well that is obvious, we will be in another lockdown in January. |
Posted By: marigold
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2020 at 18:27
| Son of a friend is at a Championship club and they have been told to prepare for a Jan 23 or 30 start with 2 conferences of 6 home and away and then play the other 6 teams once. Who funds testing not yet clear-did the government not say there was £9 million for the Championship-surely that would cover it and some. |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2020 at 18:42
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It won’t cover the lack of crowds and hospitality etc and most of the money is a loan. If I were an owner of a Championship Club I wouldn’t want to take on debt to replace income just to play a season for effectively Saracens to go back up.
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2020 at 19:51
Maybe they should right the season off, and ring fence Sarries out. 😂🤔😉
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Posted By: High Heidjin
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2020 at 10:43
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As things stand, today, the Championship season starts on 23rd January and finishes on 22nd May. Two conferences of six teams, each playing each other home and away. Following that, each team will play the teams in the other conference, with three games at home and three away. Final will be netween the top 2 and will be played on a home and away basis, the aggregate score counting in that match as to who will become the champions. All weighted in favour of Saracens, then lol ------------- The Inner Game Will Win Every Time |
Posted By: Woody
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2020 at 11:25
This. Why bother? This could ruin clubs. Maybe if Sarries paid all the other clubs to play them using the golden parachute... Otherwise what is in it for the Championship clubs? ------------- Forever Green. |
Posted By: Cov kid 42
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2020 at 11:39
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Talk as of today of any Championship season getting underway in January is failing in my view to take into consideration a) announcement from the Government of Wednesday, where the belief I am hearing seems to be no area will go down, with some being placed back into tier 3. Secondly, many I speak to are very uncertain & really seriously concerned re what will happen in January, once far too many have gone too far & in excess of what is supposed to happen over the '' 5 day break''. ------------- John Butler |
Posted By: Guinness John
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2020 at 18:55
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I just can't see how there can be any sort of league this season especially after today's announcement. No scrums, no mauls, no crowds, no league in my opinion. Certainly I would not be going anywhere near until this is all over with. We have to get real, this is a killer not a cold.
------------- Bedford Blues Supporter of the Year 2010 - 2011 |
Posted By: Whistle watcher
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2020 at 08:38
Are they the variations which will be applied in the Championship though? I'm not sure.
What do you want to do ? New mail< id="mailtoEmail">Copy< id="mailtoClipboardTo"> |
Posted By: billesleyexile
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2020 at 10:03
well no, they're not supposed to be. But they might end up having to be if the season eventually gets under way. As more places slide into tier 3 the situation is only going to get worse. Championship clubs are now in a position where they could be facing, to play any matches, borrowing money to pay for testing to play behind closed doors. Is it worth it? ------------- keep the faith |
Posted By: Rucking Idiot
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2020 at 10:51
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Hi Maulers, Trying to live up to my name - why don't we start & end this season with a tradition that has fallen by the wayside for many clubs. "The Easter Tour" as this would bring the whole club together including the ExB XV & Supporters. It could also allow us to transfer some of our favorite songs to the younger members, that made this the most social sport of all. Wishing you all a very happy & safe Christmas and New Year ------------- If it looks like a duck & quacks like a duck it's just my rucking luck! |
Posted By: Scrumtime
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2020 at 12:04
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That is not a bad suggestion: With London now in tier 3 and lets be honest its going to be that way till at least mid jan, there may be no time left. |
Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2020 at 14:35
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Just to put something out there - the start of the 2021/22 season is not set in stone, as such a season could still be feasible (even if slightly abbreviated this time around) - we could finish late June and restart October no cup for two years job done. If you look at the R rate the North is now sat at 0.7 to 0.9 and 4 weeks ago it was what 1.1 to 1.3 - down South is now at 1.0 to 1.1 and climbing (lockdown should have some impact on the curve) so possibly in four weeks they too may be on 0.7 to 0.9 and we would be in Tier 2 so some relaxation, if not significant and clubs could have controlled numbers of supporters. As such, I am not yet going to set off on my epic journey to see the king and tell him the sky is falling. I still think rugby is feasible by the end of January - we all just need to be sensible about things and we may just turn that corner. Sure those folk at higher risk may have to take additional precautionary steps - and those of us who are not need to be sensible and follow advised precautions. ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: Exiled_Scots
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2020 at 16:19
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With COVID restrictions at Christmas being loosened, we will inevitably have a significant increase and a spike in deaths around the middle of January 2021. Does anybody really believe that Championship rugby will commence in this sort of environment? Wishful thinking on the part of some I suspect. ------------- Watch Out - The Scottish Phoenix Club is on the Up!! Seven down one to go |
Posted By: Shush
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2020 at 16:40
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Two questions from me; Will players be forced to have the vaccine? Will players be forced to take a knee?
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Posted By: stadium
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2020 at 16:48
| No club has forced the players to do either. We live in a democracy. |
Posted By: Shush
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2020 at 17:02
The league hasn't started so it would be very hard for a club to have forced players to take a knee! In regard to the vaccine, I asked if the players would be forced to have the vaccine. Does anyone think pressure will be placed on players to have the vaccine? Does anyone envisage there being a time that demands the taking of the vaccine in order to play in a competitive match? Is that stadium built yet?
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Posted By: marigold
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2020 at 07:28
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I think it highly likely players will be required to have the vaccine if they wish to play. Clubs will want to show that playing rugby is as safe as possible-even if there is currently no evidence of transmission from actually training or playing. See no difference to if you want to travel to certain countries you have to prove you have had certain inoculations ahead of arriving there.Taking a knee will hopefully have run its important course by the time the league starts so will not be an issue. |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2020 at 08:42
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I cannot see any player getting vaccinated before autumn unless they are working in the NHS or a care home. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2020 at 10:08
| Or pay for it?? |
Posted By: Bunkermentality
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2020 at 11:08
Am I reading the Daily Mail?
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2020 at 12:10
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I believe I have seen statements that the vaccine will not be available privately. Frankly the risk to somone under 40 with no underlying health issues is minimal - though i am not a doctor and there are unknown long term issues associated with "long covid". According to figures I got form a paper by Prof Spiegalhalter 37% of adult males are between 19 and 39 yet they are 0.75% of all Covid deaths. Which is why they are starting where they are - if they vaccinate four or five million over 65s it stops over 2/3rds of hospital admissions. that then buys time to vaccinate the remaining 55 million. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2020 at 13:50
I might have missed it but I don't believe anyone in sport or out of it for that matter has been forced to take a knee. |
Posted By: Runitback
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2020 at 16:35
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Looking at the Exeter situation, I find it hard to believe there can be any kind of league this season. Imagine the scenario, 22 weeks of fixtures with no breaks, Saracens get players testing positive and have to cancel 4 matches in which the opposition are awarded 5 points, thus ensuring they finish 3rd in the league? More importantly the RFU are expecting clubs to go through a full 8 week pre-season, so paying players, with no guarantee of when the league will start . . so players brought back off furlough. Then they face the possibility of playing games in empty stadiums!!!! Lets be realistic and cancel the season and hope to get a few local "friendly" derbies when safe to do so. ------------- Run with it |
Posted By: Sail By
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2020 at 16:39
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How many teams are in full preseason now already? I think that more are than you think, but it would be good to look at the facts.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2020 at 19:38
No idea, but Ealing and Saracens presumably, plus Cov have moved up a stage and introduced Covid testing. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: marigold
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2020 at 20:02
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Doncaster have been in full training for 6 weeks as have Jersey-both testing. If the season starts in Jan there are going to be huge differences between the full time/testing clubs and those who are not full time/cannot afford to test. |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2020 at 20:09
All totally correct from what I've seen ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2020 at 20:11
Really, you cannot tell me 100% Premier Footballers believe in it yet they all take the knee - some even give black power salutes. ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2020 at 20:13
Financially, that would make sense - would also serve Saracens right if they were out of the Premiership for 2 years - hard to argue against as they volunteered to take relegation. ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: covchopper
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2020 at 20:30
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I hope they do take the knee and show rugby believed in racial equality. It would be very refreshing to see it. ------------- C'mon Cov |
Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2020 at 11:35
I hope not. Keep politics out of rugby. If they have to do something, anything but that particular gesture.
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Posted By: billesleyexile
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2020 at 12:08
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so as things stand Jersey, Hartpury and Pirates are the only teams allowed fans in... what a mess. New tiers announcement has just added Bedford and Ampthill to the London clubs in the newly tier 3'd.
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Posted By: covchopper
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2020 at 13:30
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I don’t see what all the fuss about showing a gesture agreeing with equality and against racism is about. Keep politics out of sport or bearing one’s head in the sand and pretending racism doesn’t exist? I appreciate my response is moving away from the subject of rugby but I do wonder why people object to taking the knee. No different to a minutes silence when someone passes away or on armistice. ------------- C'mon Cov |
Posted By: stadium
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2020 at 14:45
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Saracens are in Hertfordshire which has been placed in Tier 3. Shush the Stadium has not started.Lots going on behind the scenes. Cornwall Council has started the 47.5 million pound road infrastructure around Langarth, Truro which will benefit the Stadium. Link http://www.langarth.co.uk/stadium-for-cornwall/" rel="nofollow - www.langarth.co.uk/stadium-for-cornwall/
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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2020 at 15:07
Actually Saracens are in Barnet, which is London but the principle is still correct with regard to Tier 3.
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Posted By: stadium
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2020 at 15:37
| Sorry. Robb your correct. Barnet was in Hertfordshire until 1965 then became a Borough of London. |
Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2020 at 15:46
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Lucky Hertfordshire ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: kempstonblue
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2020 at 16:40
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Can see many tier 3 here until March. We can’t force vaccines on anyone, but i read to push the virus back could need 80%-90% uptake. Judging by comments at work 60% might be the uptake. Will we be in this mess in September? ------------- The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused. |
Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2020 at 16:49
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Hopefully not but probably yes! The vaccine(s) are not the answer to everything and it will be spring at the earliest before we get down to the younger age group (ie players!) The main issue, and problem, for team sports is that even though individuals may be vaccinated against the virus it does not prevent them spreading it.
As I have said on various threads on RM I feel the best we can hope for and definitely the safest is to aim to resume with a full programme at all levels in September - OK this might screw Saracens but that might be a more meaningful and deserving punishment for cheating
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Posted By: Shush
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2020 at 18:39
I don't know where you're coming from with this BS, George Floyd was no angel but the whole looney left have decided to put him on a pedestal, pathetic. Can't you remember BLM attacking the Police, attacking police horses, desecrating monuments and attacking white people?
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2020 at 19:03
No, because most of those things didn't happen except between your ears. I hold these truths to be self evident that all men were created equal.
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Posted By: Shush
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2020 at 19:09
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No, because most of those things didn't happen except between your ears. I hold these truths to be self evident that all men were created equal. [/QUOTE]
Another muppet that turns a blind eye to crimes committed by a section of our wonderful and diverse society.
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Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2020 at 19:29
| I'm with you Shush! On a similar note I see that having complained that Covid too was rac*ist there is a majority of our ABCJFTDHLRTB+ blackberry community who are likely to refuse the vaccine (as reported on BBC news today) which is very helpful! What chance have you got when you get someone on TV proclaiming, and yes this is a verbatim quote, "I ain't catching no diseases 'cos God is looking after me" |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2020 at 19:35
| Oh dear, this thread has headed in a very unfortunate direction... |
Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2020 at 19:41
| Truth often offends |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2020 at 21:18
Quite agree - totally fed up with the Wendy-ball teams kneeling before every game - it was originally just for the end of last season, but appears to have become a tradition like the pantomime season. ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2020 at 21:20
Really, must have dreamt all those demonstrations without social distancing and masks - many of which ended in wanton vandalism and occasionally violence -pictures as supplied by the BBC. ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2020 at 21:23
You just can't win - BAME groups complain that Covid affects them more than white people, now you hear that less than 60% BAME people are likely have the vaccination whilst almost 80% of whites will. Not helping themselves are they? ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Shush
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2020 at 21:50
How on earth do you know what the younger members of your club believe in?
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Posted By: Shush
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2020 at 22:00
In other words you've been spying on your own kids facebook pages, let's hope you haven't been reading other kid's social media as you'll get a reputation!
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Posted By: Shush
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2020 at 22:02
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Just read this tweet and thought how apt, https://twitter.com/GodfreyOfAcre" rel="nofollow - So you can boooo your team off the pitch, you can boooo the opposite teams individual players, you can booooo a refs bad decision, heck you can boooo anything, but boooo a load of numpties taking the knee and you’re a cloudberry. Thank God panto’ been cancelled. |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2020 at 22:27
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The rugby Premiership haven't taken the knee nor any international match that I saw. Don't think it is needed, if we are doing that should we have a clap for the NHS, a minutes silence for all people who have died in wars, etc. etc.. Before you know it we will have an hour of gestures before we start any match...
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Posted By: Scrumtime
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2020 at 07:50
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Sorry, but what the hell has this got to do with the start or possible start of the season Suggest you either start a new thread of get back to the subject of this one. |
Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2020 at 07:51
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Got a feeling '21 is going to be a good year. ------------- Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD. |