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Topic: National 1 Latest scores-week 4 28th September.
Posted By: Rothman2
Subject: National 1 Latest scores-week 4 28th September.
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2024 at 22:35
Good evening all.

Looking forward to the match ups this weekend and what an interesting set of fixtures we have.

Two games kick off at 2.30 and the remaining games start at 3pm. Correction Lions v Sedge kicked off at 2pm

All of them have the potential to be very close and difficult to forecast. Not that I would attempt to do so because, a) I am useless at it and b) it’s extremely difficult for me to predict my beloved Roth to lose…….or win, so, I will just concentrate on updates.

So, on that basis, updates will follow on the games below:

2pm
Leicester Lions v Sedgley Park

2.30pm
Sale FC v Rotherham Titans

and from 3pm for the following:

3.00 pm
Birmingham Moseley v Blackheath
Bishops Stortford v Plymouth Albion
Darlington Mowden Park v Rosslyn Park
Dings Crusaders v Rams
Esher v Richmond

Good luck to all teams.



Replies:
Posted By: Storty
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 10:27
Enjoy the game Rothman. I've got a few lads joining today for their first rugby match ever. 

That was me a couple of years ago and now I'm hooked! Sun is shining and pints will be flowing. Couldn't think of a better way to spend a Saturday afternoon.


Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 14:20
Lions 12 Sedge 3

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Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 14:29
Lions 12- Sedge 6

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Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 14:32
Sorry Sedge thought it was a 2.30 ko


Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 14:37
Sale 7 Roth 0


Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 14:40
Lions 12 Sedge 13.

No worries RM so did we😂😂😂


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Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 14:44
Lions 12 Sedge 20 HT 

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Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 14:44
Sale 7 Roth 7
Capps. Good conversion from Hayes


Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:01
Play underway on The Common. 

Mose 0 Club 0


Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:01
Lovely try for Roth. Had a pen in front of the post but went to the corner, won the line out & recycled for Tomasi Tanumi to score. Converted by Hayes

Sale 7 Roth 14


Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:02
Mose 0 Club 3


Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:02
Lions 12 Sedge 23

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Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:06
Lions 19 Sedge 23 

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Posted By: plymouthalbion15
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:11
BSRFC 0. PARFC 7


Posted By: Fake_Shemp
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:12
DMP 0-5 Rosslyn Park


Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:13



2.00 pm
Leicester Lions 19 Sedgley Park 23

2.30pm
Sale FC 7 Rotherham Titans 14

3.00 pm
Birmingham Moseley 0 Blackheath 3
Bishops Stortford 0 Plymouth Albion 7
Darlington Mowden Park 0 Rosslyn Park 5
Dings Crusaders 3 Rams 7
Esher 0 Richmond 5


Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:16
Half Time Sale 7 Roth 14


Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:19
Dings Crusaders 17 Rams 7


Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:21
Esher 0 Richmond 12


Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:22
Leicester Lions 24 Sedgley Park 23


Posted By: Fake_Shemp
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:24
DMP 0-12 Rosslyn Park


Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:24
Mose 0 Club 10


Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:25
Lions 24BP Sedge 23

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Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:25
Dings Crusaders 17 Rams 14


Posted By: plymouthalbion15
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:27
BSRFC 3   PARFC 14


Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:30
Mose 7 Club 10


Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:30
Lions 29 Sedge 23

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Posted By: plymouthalbion15
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:30
 BSRFC 3     PARFC 17


Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:31
Leicester Lions 29 Sedgley Park 23


Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:32
Dings Crusaders 17 Rams 21


Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:33
Mose 14 Club 10


Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:36
Mose 14 Club 13


Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:36



2.00 pm
Leicester Lions 29 Sedgley Park 23

2.30pm
Sale FC 7 Rotherham Titans 14

3.00 pm
Birmingham Moseley 14 Blackheath 13
Bishops Stortford 3 Plymouth Albion 17
Darlington Mowden Park 0 Rosslyn Park 12
Dings Crusaders 17 Rams 28
Esher 0 Richmond 19


Posted By: plymouthalbion15
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:38
Bsrfc 6    PARFC 17


Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:39
RESULT
Leicester Lions 29 Sedgley Park 23


Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:39
Lions 29 (5) Sedge 23 (1) Fulltime 

Well played Lions. 

All the best 

ST 


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Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:41
Sale 7 Roth 17


Posted By: plymouthalbion15
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:41
BSRFC 6    PARFC 20


Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:43
Half Time Dings 24 Rams 28


Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:43
Esher 0 Richmond 24


Posted By: Fake_Shemp
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:44
HT DMP 3-12 Rosslyn Park


Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:45
Halftime on The Common. 

Moseley 14 (2t) Blackheath 13 (1t)


Posted By: plymouthalbion15
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:48
BSRFC 6   PARFC 27


Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:48
RESULT
Leicester Lions 29 Sedgley Park 23

2.30pm
Sale FC 7 Rotherham Titans 17

3.00 pm
Birmingham Moseley 14 Blackheath 13 HT
Bishops Stortford 6 Plymouth Albion 27
Darlington Mowden Park 3 Rosslyn Park 12 HT
Dings Crusaders 24 Rams 28 HT
Esher 0 Richmond 24 HT


Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 15:56
Second half underway on The Common. 


Posted By: Fake_Shemp
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:00
DMP 6-12 Rosslyn Park


Posted By: Fake_Shemp
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:05
DMP 6-15 Rosslyn Park


Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:05
Sale 14 Roth 17


Posted By: plymouthalbion15
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:06
BSRFC 13   PARFC 27


Posted By: Fake_Shemp
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:08
DMP 6-20 Rosslyn Park


Posted By: plymouthalbion15
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:10
BSRFC 20   PARFC 27


Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:12
Roth lose to a last move try
Ft Sale 21 Roth 17


Posted By: Fake_Shemp
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:13
DMP 6-27 Rosslyn Park


Posted By: Fake_Shemp
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:19
DMP 6-34 Rosslyn Park


Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:19
Stoppage on The Common due to an injury to a prop.

Mose 14 Club 13


Posted By: plymouthalbion15
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:19
BSRFC 20     PARFC  34 (tbp)


Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:21
Prop able to walk off pitch, so back underway on The Common. 


Posted By: Fake_Shemp
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:22
DMP 6-39 Rosslyn Park


Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:24
Mose 21 Club 13


Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:26
RESULTS
Leicester Lions 29 Sedgley Park 23
Sale FC 21 Rotherham Titans 17

3.00 pm
Birmingham Moseley 14 Blackheath 13
Bishops Stortford 20 Plymouth Albion 34
Darlington Mowden Park 6 Rosslyn Park 39
Dings Crusaders 31 Rams 36
Esher 17 Richmond 52


Posted By: plymouthalbion15
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:30
BSRFC 20.   PARFC 39


Posted By: Fake_Shemp
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:40
DMP 13-39 Rosslyn Park


Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:40
RESULTS
Leicester Lions 29 Sedgley Park 23
Sale FC 21 Rotherham Titans 17

3.00 pm
Birmingham Moseley 21 Blackheath 13
Bishops Stortford 20 Plymouth Albion 39
BS player red carded
Darlington Mowden Park 13 Rosslyn Park 39
Dings Crusaders 36 Rams 41
Esher 17 Richmond 52


Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:42
Mose 28 Club 13. Bonus point try for Moseley. 


Posted By: plymouthalbion15
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:42
 BSRFC red card


Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:43
Cubs 36 Rams 44 FT - get in there!!

(Saracens 31 Chinnor 29)

Yes, I know it's childish but it's really annoying 


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Posted By: Fake_Shemp
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:43
FT DMP 13-46 Rosslyn Park


Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:45
Mose 35 Club 13.


Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:46
RESULTS
Leicester Lions 29 Sedgley Park 23
Sale FC 21 Rotherham Titans 17
Dings Crusaders 36 Rams 44
Esher 17 Richmond 52
Darlington Mowden Park 13 Rosslyn Park 46

3.00 pm
Birmingham Moseley 35 Blackheath 13
Bishops Stortford 20 Plymouth Albion 39


Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:46
Full time:

Moseley 35 (5t) Blackheath 13 (1t)


Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:49
RESULTS
Leicester Lions 29 Sedgley Park 23
Sale FC 21 Rotherham Titans 17
Dings Crusaders 36 Rams 44
Esher 17 Richmond 52
Darlington Mowden Park 13 Rosslyn Park 46
Birmingham Moseley 35 Blackheath 13
Bishops Stortford 20 Plymouth Albion 39


Posted By: upnorthcombine
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 16:58
Thanks for your efforts today, much appreciated! 


Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 17:06
No worries. A bit disappointed (as a Roth fan) to lose right at the end but that’s Rugby. Onto next week.

Congratulations to all today’s winners and well done to all teams. This is a great league.


Posted By: Donnyknightfan
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 17:15
Originally posted by Rothman2 Rothman2 wrote:

RESULTS
Leicester Lions 29 Sedgley Park 23
Sale FC 21 Rotherham Titans 17
Dings Crusaders 36 Rams 44
Esher 17 Richmond 52
Darlington Mowden Park 13 Rosslyn Park 46
Birmingham Moseley 35 Blackheath 13
Bishops Stortford 20 Plymouth Albion 39

As a neutral I have to say I’m glad that Rams won today. The loanees situation is an absolute embarrassment and it shreds the integrity of the league. Hopefully Roth sendemoamwinowt next week. Result of the day there for me is Moseley - that is a very strong win against a good Blackheath side. 


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Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 17:42
Match report from Sale FC website:

https://www.salefc.com/late-late-show-sees-sale-defeat-titans" rel="nofollow - https://www.salefc.com/late-late-show-sees-sale-defeat-titans


Posted By: NationalLeagueBadger
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 17:46
Dings-Rams report -  https://www.ramsrugby.com/teams/2853/match-centre/1-15584077/report" rel="nofollow - Match Report: Dings Crusaders 36 - 44 Rams : RAMS 1st XV (ramsrugby.com)


Posted By: front5
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2024 at 17:52
What’s going on at DMP!!! 4 games in 4 losses, 1 point (4 tries), closest we have come to a losing bonus point was 2 converted score away, so far!!! 

We kept all but a few player’s, brining in new talent in the right area, have a stable coaching set up, some of the best training, recovery and physio facilities in the league out of the Arena, have access to some fantastic DRs for the season also! There is something a miss?

After preseason I was honestly impressed, thinking about his could be DMPs time, since placing 2nd in the 17/18 season. I was wrong, I’ve attended 3 games so far this year, but after today’s game I couldn’t stomach a beer in the bar afterwards, It’s so bad I have not entered the fantasy league for last 3 weeks as can’t bring myself to forecast 5 - 0 to opponents. Not taking anything from out opponents so far this season but they are facing up against a team who look completely disenchanted, falling apart as a team, making decisions which are actually gifting scores to their opponents, rather than fighting to the end, players and staff looking like they have lost faith and given up.

It kills me to say it but after 24 years of watching DMP, traveling home and away (when I work allows) I’m considering posting my season ticket back in the morning.

I don’t mind losing games, some of the best performances are from lost matches.

I don’t think this is not a talent issue, the talent is in this squad without doubt. It isn’t experience with so many players with over 100 games for the club. It points to a deeper routed problems, which are to be beyond the knowledge of the lowly status of a member and fan such as I.





Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2024 at 19:28
Sale v Roth match report from a Roth perspective, courtesy of Titans. com :

QUOTE=Rothman2] Match report from Sale FC website:

https://www.salefc.com/late-late-show-sees-sale-defeat-titans" rel="nofollow - https://www.salefc.com/late-late-show-sees-sale-defeat-titans
[/QUOTE]

and the report courtesy of Titans.com :

https://www.titans-rugby.com/news/2024/9/28/titans-suffer-late-heartbreak-at-sale


Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2024 at 19:32
Sorry try this link :

https://www.titans-rugby.com/news/2024/9/28/titans-suffer-late-heartbreak-at-sale" rel="nofollow - https://www.titans-rugby.com/news/2024/9/28/titans-suffer-late-heartbreak-at-sale


Posted By: SaleTown
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2024 at 10:58
Originally posted by front5 front5 wrote:

What’s going on at DMP!!! 4 games in 4 losses, 1 point (4 tries), closest we have come to a losing bonus point was 2 converted score away, so far!!! 

We kept all but a few player’s, brining in new talent in the right area, have a stable coaching set up, some of the best training, recovery and physio facilities in the league out of the Arena, have access to some fantastic DRs for the season also! There is something a miss?

After preseason I was honestly impressed, thinking about his could be DMPs time, since placing 2nd in the 17/18 season. I was wrong, I’ve attended 3 games so far this year, but after today’s game I couldn’t stomach a beer in the bar afterwards, It’s so bad I have not entered the fantasy league for last 3 weeks as can’t bring myself to forecast 5 - 0 to opponents. Not taking anything from out opponents so far this season but they are facing up against a team who look completely disenchanted, falling apart as a team, making decisions which are actually gifting scores to their opponents, rather than fighting to the end, players and staff looking like they have lost faith and given up.

It kills me to say it but after 24 years of watching DMP, traveling home and away (when I work allows) I’m considering posting my season ticket back in the morning.

I don’t mind losing games, some of the best performances are from lost matches.

I don’t think this is not a talent issue, the talent is in this squad without doubt. It isn’t experience with so many players with over 100 games for the club. It points to a deeper routed problems, which are to be beyond the knowledge of the lowly status of a member and fan such as I.



Not sure it is as bleak as it appears. This league gets harder season by season. Sale FC finished second (five points from promotion) and third (one point from promotion) in consecutive seasons then didn't win their first match in the following season until end of September and only one three games in the whole of September, October and November. We didn't lose many players from the previous season but the wheels fell off. Fortunately for us we managed to cobble them together to maintain our Nat 1 status. I suspect DMP will be fine.


Posted By: Storty
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2024 at 15:04
Front5-DMP seems like a similar story to Stortford this season. Recruitment seemed good and pre season went very well.

The 2 games I've been to (Blackheath and Plymouth) however they've been taken apart with ease. 

The standard does seem to get stronger each year. I wonder if there's a trickle effect from so many pro clubs going bust meaning a higher standard of player now plays Nat 1.

Either way, very early days. Keep the faith.


Posted By: NorthernSpec
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2024 at 15:47
Callum Pascoe……….. class player and a good scrum half is so influential to how a team runs.

Ollie Hodgson………..club captain.


Both big boots to fill, and talent as such may be like for like with recruitment, what they brought regards the team and how it runs will be very hard to replace.

Still early days. I would still suggest a mid table finish for DMP.


Posted By: front5
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2024 at 09:15
Originally posted by NorthernSpec NorthernSpec wrote:

Callum Pascoe……….. class player and a good scrum half is so influential to how a team runs.

Ollie Hodgson………..club captain.


Both big boots to fill, and talent as such may be like for like with recruitment, what they brought regards the team and how it runs will be very hard to replace.

Still early days. I would still suggest a mid table finish for DMP.

Olly has not been as influential in last year or two with injuries and players coming in like Yarri and Will Jones 

Agree with Pascoe but Lee Dickson is assistant coach bet he can still pass a ball / control the game at this level. Garry Law is pivotal still. 

Either way I did not return season ticket and going to CLUB this Saturday so let’s hope for something different 


Posted By: NorthernSpec
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2024 at 13:23
OH may not have been as influential on the playing side due to injuries but being around the squad, setting standards, building confidence and passing on knowledge help the team mentally and builds towards a winning mindset. Like you said, it’s not necessarily the talent that is lacking it seems more of a mentality thing.

I’m sure Dickson can fling a ball around but last time I checked he wasn’t on the pitch playing. Again, CP and the young Douglas on loan from Falcons at scrum half may not be miles apart in skill set but when it comes to having control under pressure, having the right mindset and that win at all cost mentality CP is miles ahead with his years of experience under his belt which is so important in such a pivotal position.

Like I said, early days, hopefully DMP will learn quickly and start picking up the wins.


Posted By: Rabbie Burns
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2024 at 17:32
Hey front 5 will be great to welcome you to Well Hall this weekend. Hopefully you will have a nice visit but not good if you catch my drift. As others have said this league changes in the blink of an eye

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Posted By: Fake_Shemp
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2024 at 14:24

The two home games have been very different: Rotherham are clearly very well coached, with great cohesion and a physicality that the Mowden players couldn't match.

 

Against Rosslyn Park, it was obvious from before kickoff that Mowden would struggle for any sort of fluency because of the players available. The back line was without most of its starters and there would be no scenario before the season that you would've wanted Shaun McCartney to return and play outside of Junior Newton, making his first start for the club, and two centres who had probably never played together before.

 

Equally, I don't think anyone would consider (the nearly 44-year-old) Talite Vaioleti and (new signing) Louis PeaHuckleberry to be our best second row partnership, so I think it was to the players’ credit, particularly Joe Craggs, that the line out functioned so well, and the scrum was generally solid.

 

However, the cohesion that Rotherham showed was missing from Mowden’s play against Rosslyn Park and there was (understandably) a distinct lack of attacking threat, with no obvious planned attacking moves, few moments when the ball carrier had offloading options from support runners, and the general sense of predictability was clear from early in the game.

 

I'm realistic because I know we have a squad of part-time players, one that is currently ravaged by injury, and coaches who work full-time and give a lot of time and effort to this Club, and I know we don't have a deep squad of players who are experienced at this level, playing with teammates they know well. As has been said, the loss of Callum Pascoe is huge because he was such an integral part of organising our attack and could be relied on as an accurate placekicker. Harry Yates, as a hard running centre who always ran good, threatening, lines is also a miss. Both are now in the Championship. I always I thought the first month would be difficult while the new signings familiarised themselves with their new teammates and returning players finished rehabbing their injuries.

 

Also, I'm pretty sure Lee Dickson is no longer with DMP because it was https://www.newcastlefalcons.co.uk/lee-dickson-returns-to-newcastle-falcons/" rel="nofollow - announced last month that he was rejoining the Falcons, coaching their scrum halves once a week on top of his full-time job at Barnard Castle; he isn't listed on the DMP website with the other coaches. Another huge loss we could ill afford.

 

Although I’m hopeful that, as players return injury and others grow in experience and composure, narrow losses turn into narrow wins, it might be that this is the season our 10-year stay in National 1 comes to an end and we have to go down to 2N for a year or two. If it is, it will be sad, but the rugby will be good to watch and the travelling will be much easier for players, coaches, and supporters. 




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