Week 8 Predictions
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Topic: Week 8 Predictions
Posted By: Old Gold
Subject: Week 8 Predictions
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2024 at 13:09
Nottingham 5 - 2 Chinnor Ampthill 4 - 1 Hartpury Cornish Pirates 1 - 4 Coventry Doncaster 5 - 0 Caldy Ealing 5 - 0 Cambridge Scottish 1 - 5 Bedford
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Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2024 at 13:53
Nottingham 5 - 1 Chinnor
Ampthill 5 - 2 Hartpury
Cornish Pirates 1 - 5 Coventry
Doncaster 5 - 0 Caldy
Ealing 5 - 1 Cambridge
Scottish 1 - 5 Bedford
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2024 at 15:29
My Guesses:
Nottingham 5 - 1 Chinnor
Ampthill 2-5 Hartpury
Cornish Pirates 1 - 5 Coventry
Doncaster 5 - 0 Caldy
Ealing 5 - 0 Cambridge
Scottish 2 - 5 Bedford
Good luck to all
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Posted By: Stalwart*
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2024 at 15:39
Nottingham 4 - 1 Chinnor
Ampthill 1 - 4 Hartpury
Cornish Pirates 1 - 4 Coventry
Doncaster 5 - 0 Caldy
Ealing 5 - 0 Cambridge
Scottish 1 - 4 Bedford
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Posted By: Jezmar
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2024 at 15:45
Nottingham 1 - 5 Chinnor Ampthill 0 - 5 Hartpury Cornish Pirates 0 - 5 Coventry Doncaster 5 - 0 Caldy Ealing 5 - 0 Cambridge Scottish 1 - 5 Bedford
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Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2024 at 16:44
Nottingham 1-4 Chinnor
Ampthill 1-5 Hartpury
Cornish Pirates 0 - 5 Coventry
Doncaster 5 - 0 Caldy
Ealing 5 - 0 Cambridge
Scottish 0 - 5 Bedford
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Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2024 at 16:59
The Chinnor and Nottingham sides for tomorrow's match
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2024 at 17:27
Nottingham 1 - 4 Chinnor Ampthill 0 - 5 Hartpury Cornish Pirates 4 - 1 Coventry Doncaster 5 - 1 Caldy Ealing 5 - 0 Cambridge Scottish 1 - 5 Bedford
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Posted By: All the Way
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2024 at 19:28
Nottingham 4 - 1 Chinnor Ampthill 1 - 5 Hartpury Cornish Pirates 1 - 4 Coventry Doncaster 5 - 0 Caldy Ealing 5 - 0 Cambridge Scottish 1 - 5 Bedford
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Posted By: greenpower
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2024 at 19:33
nottingham 5 1 chinnor ampthill 1 5 hartpury pirates 1 4 coventry doncaster 5 0 caldy ealing 5 0 cambridge scottish 1 5 bedford
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2024 at 19:51
Nottingham 5 - 2 Chinnor Ampthill 1 - 5 Hartpury Cornish Pirates 0 - 5 Coventry Doncaster 5 - 0 Caldy Ealing 5 - 0 Cambridge Scottish 1 - 5 Bedford
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Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2024 at 09:28
Nottingham 5 - 2 Chinnor Ampthill 1 - 5 Hartpury Cornish Pirates 4 - 1 Coventry Doncaster 5 - 0 Caldy Ealing 5 - 0 Cambridge Scottish 1 - 5 Bedford
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Posted By: Donnyknightfan
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2024 at 12:32
Nottingham 5 - 1 Chinnor Ampthill 1 - 5 Hartpury Cornish Pirates 0 - 4 Coventry Doncaster 5 - 0 Caldy Ealing 5 - 0 Cambridge London Scottish 1 - 4 Bedford
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2024 at 13:59
Ealing Trailfinders to face Cambridge: Great mix of youth and experience. Glad to see Uzokwe fit again, and interested to see the new young South African flanker. - Elliot Chilvers
- Matt Cornish
- George Davis
- Bobby De Wee
- Sean Lonsdale
- David Douglas Bridge
- Siya Ningiza
- Rayn Smid (c)
- Lloyd Williams
- Dan Jones
- Tom Collins
- Jordan Holgate
- Reuben Bird-Tulloch
- Ben Harris
- Tobi Wilson
- Cam Terry
- James Kenny
- Kyle Whyte
- Matas Jurevicius
- Simon Uzokwe
- Craig Hampson
- Craig Willis
- Francis Moore
https://ealingtrailfinders.com/news/" rel="nofollow - Click here for all club news.
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2024 at 14:27
gerg_861 wrote:
Ealing Trailfinders to face Bedford Blues: Great mix of youth and experience. Glad to see Uzokwe fit again, and interested to see the new young South African flanker.
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Could have of sworn they were playing Cambridge
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2024 at 14:28
FHLH wrote:
gerg_861 wrote:
Ealing Trailfinders to face Bedford Blues: Great mix of youth and experience. Glad to see Uzokwe fit again, and interested to see the new young South African flanker.
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Could of sworn they were playing Cambridge |
Ha! That is a copy paste from Ealing's website as well.
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Posted By: cheshire exile
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2024 at 15:04
FHLH wrote:
gerg_861 wrote:
Ealing Trailfinders to face Bedford Blues: Great mix of youth and experience. Glad to see Uzokwe fit again, and interested to see the new young South African flanker.
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Could of sworn they were playing Cambridge |
Could have?? #ocd
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2024 at 17:39
cheshire exile wrote:
Could have?? #ocd |
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Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2024 at 20:20
30 minutes played and it is still 0-0 between Nottingham and Chinnor
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2024 at 20:23
Twitter says Chinnor just slotted a penalty
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Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2024 at 20:35
HT Nottingham 0-3 Chinnor
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2024 at 21:07
Apparently Nottingham scored a try from a maul, and missed a penalty
7-3
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2024 at 21:09
14 - 3
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2024 at 21:11
19 - 3 Conversion missed.
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Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2024 at 21:26
Nottingham 19-15 Chinnor - 8 minutes left
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2024 at 21:38
Full time
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 09:24
Don't think the BBC website has caught up with the Chinnor, Donny result being announced. I'm sure Chinnor should have 4 more points and 1 for us.
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 11:15
KnightsBoy wrote:
Don't think the BBC website has caught up with the Chinnor, Donny result being announced. I'm sure Chinnor should have 4 more points and 1 for us. |
Does the result stand before the opportunity to appeal? Genuine question…
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 14:37
Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 14:47
Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 14:47
Amptill v Hartpury game abandoned due to an injury to the ref
Amptill,0 Pury 14 was the score
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 14:52
Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 14:54
Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 15:00
Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 15:02
Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 15:12
Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 15:14
Ealing 14 v 0 Cambridge after 5 minutes
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 15:14
Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 15:16
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 15:16
Ealing 19 (3T) - Cambridge 0 14' - Cambridge struggling to deal with Ealing speed.
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Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 15:18
HT in Penzance Pirates 24 Cov 7
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 15:18
Knights 22 Caldy 0. HT. 3 trys for Donny
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 15:27
Ealing 31 (BP) - Cambridge 0 26'
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 15:35
Ealing 41 (BP) - Cambridge 0
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 15:42
Ealing 48 (BP) - Cambridge 0
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 15:42
Ealing 55 (BP) - Cambridge 0 HT - Ealing scoring on basically every possession. Cambridge just too slow.
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 15:43
Ealing 55 (BP) - Cambridge 0 | |
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Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 15:49
Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 15:52
Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 15:53
Geoff DC wrote:
Pirates 31 Cov 14 |
Cov not done yet
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 15:54
Ealing 55 (BP) - Cambridge 0 ht
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 15:57
Knights 22 Caldy 0. 3 trys for Donny
Still no scores in the 2nd half 67 minutes gone Donny ringing the changes
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Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 16:05
Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 16:07
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 16:09
Ealing 69 (BP) - Cambridge 0 50'
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Posted By: cheshire exile
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 16:11
KnightsBoy wrote:
Geoff DC wrote:
Pirates 31 Cov 14 |
Cov not done yet |
Cov done now; 46-14
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 16:11
From Ampthill website:
We regret that this afternoon’s game had to be abandoned after 28 minutes of play due to an injury to referee, Alex Thomas. Our thoughts are with Alex for a swift recovery. We appreciate that the decision is disappointing for supporters who have travelled to the game but our priority is for health of the players and match officials. The fixture will be rearranged in due course and all tickets will be valid for this game As a rule there is a 4th official at games, giving the opportunity to replace a ref or AR if need be. Fear that this must have been a serious/nasty one, and echo host club's wishes for his recovery...
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Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 16:11
Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 16:12
KnightsBoy wrote:
Geoff DC wrote:
Pirates 31 Cov 14 |
Cov not done yet |
Well I got that wrong
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 16:17
Knights 22 Caldy 0. 3 trys for Donny FT
We will be disappointed not to get the try bonus
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Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 16:18
Full time in the Duchy Pirates 46 Cov 14
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 16:24
Geoff DC wrote:
Full time in the Duchy Pirates 46 Cov 14 |
Well played Pirates didn't see that scoreline coming, looking at the predictions I wasn't the only one
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 16:26
64m Ealing 76 Cambridge 7
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 16:31
FHLH wrote:
64m Ealing 76 Cambridge 7 | Same score at 68 minutes, but we have had a ten minute injury delay. Seems fairly serious, though no stretcher yet. Cambridge player down.
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 16:47
Ealing 95 - Cambridge 7 FT
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Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 17:07
Ealing 95 v Cambridge 7 Doncaster 22 v Caldy 0
A combined score of 117 v 7!
It might not be popular, but today lays bare and confirms beyond doubt what I described last week, and was villfied for. These numbers are in the realms of a cricket score.
Results like this don't do anything for the players and clubs involved. A restructure and more competetive 2nd tier is needed, much like the current 3rd tier (see today's results below).
Blackheath v Leicester Lions | 22-19 | Darlington MP v Sedgley Park | 37-37 | Dings Crusaders v Bishops Stortford | 39-31 | Esher v Plymouth Albion | 31-34 | Richmond v Rotherham | 31-29 | Rosslyn Park v Rams | 27-26 | Sale FC v Birmingham Moseley | 30-25 Abandoned |
This is of course just my opinion, so I hope I don't get told to STFU by anyone.
P.S. Pirates with the result of the day, hopefully this will be their season up and running now.
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 18:08
Se7en wrote:
This is of course just my opinion, so I hope I don't get told to STFU by anyone.
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Opinions are what the forum is about. Whilst we have Premiership chasing professional squads playing part time squads there will always be disparity. As much as I anticipated the Ealing result, I was pleased with the Cambridge result against Pirates, who have now beaten Coventry.
The significant reduction in RFU funding and long term personal backing means that this league will be split along professional/ semi pro lines.
What's the solution? 8 in Levels 1 & 2 and a cull as happened a decade ago?
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Posted By: seagoon
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 18:48
Se7en wrote:
Ealing 95 v Cambridge 7Doncaster 22 v Caldy 0
A combined score of 117 v 7!
It might not be popular, but today lays bare and confirms beyond doubt what I described last week, and was villfied for. These numbers are in the realms of a cricket score.
Results like this don't do anything for the players and clubs involved. A restructure and more competetive 2nd tier is needed, much like the current 3rd tier (see today's results below).
Blackheath v Leicester Lions | 22-19 | Darlington MP v Sedgley Park | 37-37 | Dings Crusaders v Bishops Stortford | 39-31 | Esher v Plymouth Albion | 31-34 | Richmond v Rotherham | 31-29 | Rosslyn Park v Rams | 27-26 | Sale FC v Birmingham Moseley | 30-25 Abandoned |
This is of course just my opinion, so I hope I don't get told to STFU by anyone.
P.S. Pirates with the result of the day, hopefully this will be their season up and running now.
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Are you a member of a club, and if so which one? Doncaster scored 3 tries , all in the 1st half 2nd half was scoreless Not at all in the realm of a cricket score
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 19:42
The Million pound professional team put a cricket score on the semi-professional team. But if not Caldy or Cambridge, then who?
The Cambridge side that lost today was mainly the same one that won 82-10 against Hull.
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Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 20:28
FHLH wrote:
Se7en wrote:
This is of course just my opinion, so I hope I don't get told to STFU by anyone.
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Opinions are what the forum is about. Whilst we have Premiership chasing professional squads playing part time squads there will always be disparity. As much as I anticipated the Ealing result, I was pleased with the Cambridge result against Pirates, who have now beaten Coventry.
The significant reduction in RFU funding and long term personal backing means that this league will be split along professional/ semi pro lines.
What's the solution? 8 in Levels 1 & 2 and a cull as happened a decade ago?
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Completely agree with you re the lack of RFU funding and wealthy backers of select clubs being the driving force behind the degree of disparity on show in the Championship today.
It's a mess in all honesty and I wish I had the answer but I don't. However, a properly funded tier 2/Prem 2 where funds are shared more equitably and in more abundance 'IF' (and its a big IF) sponsors/TV and media come on board could make for a more competetive league for starters.
However, as things stand, the bunch at the bottom just muddle on each week taking beatings like Cambridge did today, and in all likelihood Caldy will when they visit Ealing. How can that be enjoyable for anyone associated with those clubs?
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Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 20:39
Camquin wrote:
The Million pound professional team put a cricket score on the semi-professional team. But if not Caldy or Cambridge, then who?
The Cambridge side that lost today was mainly the same one that won 82-10 against Hull.
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Not quite sure I understand your point. But for clarity, only 4 of Cambridge's starting XV today played in the fixture vs Hull that you mention, all in the pack with none of the back line today featuring against Hull (save for 2 on the bench today).
Context is important here too. When Cambridge smashed Hull, it was mid-April 2023 and Hull were already relegated. Today is not even half way through the season, with much to play for, yet Cambridge and Caldy in particular are showing little/no sign of development from last season for instance, and in Caldy's case actually regressing from previous seasons in terms of tries/points scored and league table points as a whole.
These are the facts, with some of my opinion thrown in too which I hope is OK.
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2024 at 00:56
Scottish v Blues
Scottish go with 7 Quins starters and 4 Quins on the bench 1 Bath prop. Blues go with 2 Saints and 1 Bath hooker and 3 Saints on the bench. Good to see King back on the bench, would have preferred James at Full Back as Baker lacks a little pace.
London Scottish Team to Face Bedford - Tom Osborne
- Austin Wallis
- Ashley Challenger
- Matt Wilkinson
- Jake Spurway
- Will Trenholm
- Bailey Ransom ©
- Zach Carr
- Jonny Law
- Alec Lloyd-Seed
- Roma Zheng
- Ben Waghorn
- Sean Kerr
- Will Brown
- Cam Anderson
Replacements 16. Jack Doorey-Palmer 17. Archie Stanley 18. Caleb Ashworth 19. Alex Wardell 20. Ioan Rhys Davies 21. Lewis Gjaltema 22. Will Talbot-Davies 23. Hayden Hyde Bedford Blues starting XV: 15. Ewan Baker, 14. Matt Worley, 13. Lucas Titherington, 12. Michael Le Bourgeois (C), 11. Alfie Garside, 10. Will Maisey, 9. James Lennon; 1. Jamie Jack, 2. John Stewart, 3. Oisin Heffernan, 4. George Smith, 5. Rory Ward, 6. Luke Frost, 7. Joe Howard, 8. Fred Tuilagi Bedford Blues Replacements: 16. Tommy Herman, 17. Joey Conway, 18. Beltus Nonleh, 19. Alex Woolford, 20. Cameron King, 21. Jonny Weimann, 22. George Makepeace-Cubitt, 23. Joel Matavesi Unavailable for selection this week: James Fish, Alex Day, Dean Adamson, Jamie Elliott
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2024 at 02:34
The Blues wrote:
Scottish go with 7 Quins starters and 4 Quins on the bench 1 Bath prop. |
Comedy hour?
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2024 at 09:09
FHLH wrote:
The Blues wrote:
Scottish go with 7 Quins starters and 4 Quins on the bench 1 Bath prop. |
Comedy hour?
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6 or 12 loan players does it matter? We have discussed this at length and I don't see it changing. Both clubs are being propped up by loan players unfortunately this is the future
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Posted By: Bluesman11
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2024 at 10:17
Se7en wrote:
Ealing 95 v Cambridge 7Doncaster 22 v Caldy 0
A combined score of 117 v 7!
It might not be popular, but today lays bare and confirms beyond doubt what I described last week, and was villfied for. These numbers are in the realms of a cricket score.
Results like this don't do anything for the players and clubs involved. A restructure and more competetive 2nd tier is needed, much like the current 3rd tier (see today's results below).
Blackheath v Leicester Lions | 22-19 | Darlington MP v Sedgley Park | 37-37 | Dings Crusaders v Bishops Stortford | 39-31 | Esher v Plymouth Albion | 31-34 | Richmond v Rotherham | 31-29 | Rosslyn Park v Rams | 27-26 | Sale FC v Birmingham Moseley | 30-25 Abandoned |
This is of course just my opinion, so I hope I don't get told to STFU by anyone.
P.S. Pirates with the result of the day, hopefully this will be their season up and running now.
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Given Rams results over the last 2 weeks, fortunately you don’t have to worry about having to watching the Championship next season either. Looking forward to having Richmond back.
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Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2024 at 10:50
Bluesman11 wrote:
Se7en wrote:
Ealing 95 v Cambridge 7Doncaster 22 v Caldy 0
A combined score of 117 v 7!
It might not be popular, but today lays bare and confirms beyond doubt what I described last week, and was villfied for. These numbers are in the realms of a cricket score.
Results like this don't do anything for the players and clubs involved. A restructure and more competetive 2nd tier is needed, much like the current 3rd tier (see today's results below).
Blackheath v Leicester Lions | 22-19 | Darlington MP v Sedgley Park | 37-37 | Dings Crusaders v Bishops Stortford | 39-31 | Esher v Plymouth Albion | 31-34 | Richmond v Rotherham | 31-29 | Rosslyn Park v Rams | 27-26 | Sale FC v Birmingham Moseley | 30-25 Abandoned |
This is of course just my opinion, so I hope I don't get told to STFU by anyone.
P.S. Pirates with the result of the day, hopefully this will be their season up and running now.
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Given Rams results over the last 2 weeks, fortunately you don’t have to worry about having to watching the Championship next season either. Looking forward to having Richmond back.
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I wouldn't be so sure about that, given the season is only at the half way point.
Also, you may have heard about a new structure to be implemented next season called Premiership 2. The aim being to have a second tier made up of sustainable, competetive clubs. Rumour has it that Rams have applied...
Anyway, enjoy the McQuins v Bedford Saints game today, ironically you have an ex-Rams mini/junior/1st XV/Eng U20 player - George MC - on the bench. Must have had a good start to his rugby journey
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Posted By: workerbee
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2024 at 11:00
Caldy may not have won a game but have pushed a number of top sides close. Even the game against Doncaster showed the determination not to be over run. Doncaster scored three tries in 30 minutes then only got a penalty in the last 50 and Caldy spent more time in the Doncaster 22 in the 2nd Half without penetrating the Doncaster defence. Having lost 4 second rows in the last 8 weeks one with career ending injury and a second one out all season with a serious injury both in the Sale cup game and a further out long term with concussion. Caldy had several under 20's playing against a fully professional team. Yes it is easy to say that Semi Professional sides should not be in level 2 but the alternative is just as bad with proposals to bring in Franchise clubs into level 2 without proving them selves at lower levels as did London Scottish and Richmond, London Welsh are currently top of their Level 5 league and are on course to get back to National leagues next season. Why should Universities be allowed to apply to enter level 2 with Government funded facilities when many of the successful clubs in Nat 1 will struggle to meet the New Criteria without significant additional funding, in some cases their current ground is too small to add parking and grandstands , in some cases clubs are limited by their owners (National Trust). We already have two Premiership clubs up for sale , Exeter and Newcastle how many more sponsors will get tired of pumping money into the game.
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2024 at 11:25
KnightsBoy wrote:
FHLH wrote:
The Blues wrote:
Scottish go with 7 Quins starters and 4 Quins on the bench 1 Bath prop. |
Comedy hour?
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6 or 12 loan players does it matter? We have discussed this at length and I don't see it changing. Both clubs are being propped up by loan players unfortunately this is the future |
For Blues we didn’t sign 3 tightheads, hookers and scrum halfs, so they are injury cover or we haven’t been able to replace the tighthead that moved to Ireland during the season. Some of the Saints that come on don’t get many minutes.
I wouldn’t say propped up just supplemented, as if playing our best side few would be in the squad. What we are also doing is running the club at a profit so will be here next season, whilst being towards the top of the table, so we are doing something right.
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2024 at 11:33
I'll be honest, I'm not at all a fan of how the Championship runs at the moment. From an Ealing fan point of view, there was really not much enjoyment to be had from yesterday's match against Cambridge - there was clearly no jeopardy from about the 5th minute. If Ealing loses to a semi-pro side (which has happened a few times), then it is an embarrassment, if they beat them by 90, it is still embarrassing, just in a different way.
I would much rather see competitive matches.
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Posted By: Donnyknightfan
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2024 at 11:38
Bluesman11 wrote:
Se7en wrote:
Ealing 95 v Cambridge 7Doncaster 22 v Caldy 0
A combined score of 117 v 7!
It might not be popular, but today lays bare and confirms beyond doubt what I described last week, and was villfied for. These numbers are in the realms of a cricket score.
Results like this don't do anything for the players and clubs involved. A restructure and more competetive 2nd tier is needed, much like the current 3rd tier (see today's results below).
Blackheath v Leicester Lions | 22-19 | Darlington MP v Sedgley Park | 37-37 | Dings Crusaders v Bishops Stortford | 39-31 | Esher v Plymouth Albion | 31-34 | Richmond v Rotherham | 31-29 | Rosslyn Park v Rams | 27-26 | Sale FC v Birmingham Moseley | 30-25 Abandoned |
This is of course just my opinion, so I hope I don't get told to STFU by anyone.
P.S. Pirates with the result of the day, hopefully this will be their season up and running now.
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Given Rams results over the last 2 weeks, fortunately you don’t have to worry about having to watching the Championship next season either. Looking forward to having Richmond back.
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Rams and Rotherham are only 6 and 9 points behind respectively - it’s nowhere near done and dusted for Richmond yet. One defeat and it’s all on again. There’s a long way to go.
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Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2024 at 12:19
gerg_861 wrote:
I'll be honest, I'm not at all a fan of how the Championship runs at the moment. From an Ealing fan point of view, there was really not much enjoyment to be had from yesterday's match against Cambridge - there was clearly no jeopardy from about the 5th minute. If Ealing loses to a semi-pro side (which has happened a few times), then it is an embarrassment, if they beat them by 90, it is still embarrassing, just in a different way.
I would much rather see competitive matches. |
Very well said . Particularly pertinent coming from someone on the winning side too.
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Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2024 at 12:20
Donnyknightfan wrote:
Bluesman11 wrote:
Se7en wrote:
Ealing 95 v Cambridge 7Doncaster 22 v Caldy 0
A combined score of 117 v 7!
It might not be popular, but today lays bare and confirms beyond doubt what I described last week, and was villfied for. These numbers are in the realms of a cricket score.
Results like this don't do anything for the players and clubs involved. A restructure and more competetive 2nd tier is needed, much like the current 3rd tier (see today's results below).
Blackheath v Leicester Lions | 22-19 | Darlington MP v Sedgley Park | 37-37 | Dings Crusaders v Bishops Stortford | 39-31 | Esher v Plymouth Albion | 31-34 | Richmond v Rotherham | 31-29 | Rosslyn Park v Rams | 27-26 | Sale FC v Birmingham Moseley | 30-25 Abandoned |
This is of course just my opinion, so I hope I don't get told to STFU by anyone.
P.S. Pirates with the result of the day, hopefully this will be their season up and running now.
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Given Rams results over the last 2 weeks, fortunately you don’t have to worry about having to watching the Championship next season either. Looking forward to having Richmond back.
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Rams and Rotherham are only 6 and 9 points behind respectively - it’s nowhere near done and dusted for Richmond yet. One defeat and it’s all on again. There’s a long way to go. |
Ditto to this observation also, well said
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2024 at 14:15
The Blues wrote:
KnightsBoy wrote:
FHLH wrote:
The Blues wrote:
Scottish go with 7 Quins starters and 4 Quins on the bench 1 Bath prop. |
Comedy hour?
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6 or 12 loan players does it matter? We have discussed this at length and I don't see it changing. Both clubs are being propped up by loan players unfortunately this is the future |
For Blues we didn’t sign 3 tightheads, hookers and scrum halfs, so they are injury cover or we haven’t been able to replace the tighthead that moved to Ireland during the season. Some of the Saints that come on don’t get many minutes.
I wouldn’t say propped up just supplemented, as if playing our best side few would be in the squad. What we are also doing is running the club at a profit so will be here next season, whilst being towards the top of the table, so we are doing something right. |
But would you be up there near the top of your club had budgeted for a 31 man squad, thus diluting the quality of your squad. You are right in what you say, budget for a 25 man squad, supplemented with Saints (or other) boys mean you guarantee the survival of your club. Isn't that what London Scottish are doing or Amptill or other teams who have their squads supplemented (propped up) from a prem team. What I can see happening is the RFU and Prem getting their way on the 2nd tier, the majority of teams in it will be using the DR system fully.
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2024 at 14:48
KnightsBoy wrote:
The Blues wrote:
KnightsBoy wrote:
FHLH wrote:
The Blues wrote:
Scottish go with 7 Quins starters and 4 Quins on the bench 1 Bath prop. |
Comedy hour?
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6 or 12 loan players does it matter? We have discussed this at length and I don't see it changing. Both clubs are being propped up by loan players unfortunately this is the future |
For Blues we didn’t sign 3 tightheads, hookers and scrum halfs, so they are injury cover or we haven’t been able to replace the tighthead that moved to Ireland during the season. Some of the Saints that come on don’t get many minutes.
I wouldn’t say propped up just supplemented, as if playing our best side few would be in the squad. What we are also doing is running the club at a profit so will be here next season, whilst being towards the top of the table, so we are doing something right. |
But would you be up there near the top of your club had budgeted for a 31 man squad, thus diluting the quality of your squad. You are right in what you say, budget for a 25 man squad, supplemented with Saints (or other) boys mean you guarantee the survival of your club. Isn't that what London Scottish are doing or Amptill or other teams who have their squads supplemented (propped up) from a prem team. What I can see happening is the RFU and Prem getting their way on the 2nd tier, the majority of teams in it will be using the DR system fully. |
If no loan players were allowed at all in the league, yes we would be towards the top still.
And Knights have never had a loan player?
https://www.drfc.co.uk/doncaster-knights-sign-two-edinburgh-players-on-a-short-term-loan-to-boost-the-squad-ahead-of-the-premiership-cup/" rel="nofollow - Knights sign two Edinburgh players on short-term loan to boost squad ahead of the Prem Cup - Doncaster Knights - 29/10/24
https://www.drfc.co.uk/knights-sign-two-bath-players-to-bolster-squad/" rel="nofollow - Knights sign two Bath players to bolster squad - Doncaster Knights - 09/09/24
https://www.bristolbearsrugby.com/news/andrew-turner-joins-doncaster-knights-on-season-long-loan/" rel="nofollow - Andrew Turner joins Doncaster Knights on season-long loan - Bristol Bears Rugby
We still pay for the Saints players, they aren't free. A maximum of 6 out of 23 of which we never have 6 in the 15, normally at most 3 is totally different to some where their team on the pitch is almost majority loaned.
I feel this is more about an unhappy Knights fan, whose team is underperforming, despite spending the cash.
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2024 at 15:40
Currently, 17-0 to Scottish
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2024 at 16:50
Blues win with their get out of jail card it appears!
FT Scottish 20 (1) - 22 (4) Blues
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2024 at 17:10
The Blues wrote:
Blues win with their get out of jail card it appears!
FT Scottish 20 (1) - 22 (4) Blues
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Didn't expect that after 60 mins, great finish
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Posted By: Bigbluepip
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2024 at 09:26
Anyone know how the guy who got hit on the head by the ball from the LS pen in the second half is, people seemed quite concerned for him and he certainly went down hard. I saw the paramedics go round, not sure if he was up on his feet again.
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2024 at 09:57
What is going on, the ref at Ampthill and a spectator at the RAG both being hit on the head.
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Posted By: Bigbluepip
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2024 at 10:58
I’ve heard the guy hit at the RAG is fine, good news.
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2024 at 13:14
Camquin wrote:
What is going on, the ref at Ampthill and a spectator at the RAG both being hit on the head.
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It was reported that the ref at Amptill got in the way of a clearance kick, whether it' was bad positioning,miss hit kick the report didn't say.
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2024 at 13:21
It is on X I will find it for everyone.
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2024 at 13:24
It is 1:27 but I’d watch the whole highlights
https://x.com/champrugby/status/1868428200562573316?s=46&t=iFaFN_EdYt6o_fifBlDWcA" rel="nofollow - https://x.com/champrugby/status/1868428200562573316?s=46&t=iFaFN_EdYt6o_fifBlDWcA
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Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2024 at 13:49
Oof, poor bloke.
He can't be blamed for that and whoever the kicker was owes him a mince pie or two.
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2024 at 14:57
I might save watching all of it until I have a sofa to hide behind.
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2024 at 21:16
I note Alex Thomas's misfortune has got The Championship some coverage on the BBC site.
Obviously, we wish Mr Thomas well.
Do we know why the match had to be abandoned? I am sure I have seen ARs take over in the middle before? Presumably, there was nobody who was qualified to take over running the lie?
Did the Ambulance have to take the ref to hospital?
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2024 at 11:37
Extract from the Cambridge Chairman circular following the Ealing match:
"...... a distinctly sobering experience; as some mitigation, they have 47 full time professional players, and private investment north of £5m pa; that said, I know the squad will be unhappy with their performance"
What do you do with that many paid professionals? Surely must be an over estimate.
2024 Trailfinders accounts show sponsorship of ~£5.3m and charitable donations of £7.5m to the Trailfinders Charitable Trust. I'm sure that some, but not all, of the sponsorship goes to rugby club - accounts show charitable donations to Rugby of ~£3.4m in 2023.
Funding such as this puts the Championship in context.
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Posted By: Donnyknightfan
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2024 at 17:01
Camquin wrote:
I note Alex Thomas's misfortune has got The Championship some coverage on the BBC site.
Obviously, we wish Mr Thomas well.
Do we know why the match had to be abandoned? I am sure I have seen ARs take over in the middle before? Presumably, there was nobody who was qualified to take over running the lie?
Did the Ambulance have to take the ref to hospital?
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Anyone know anything about the ref’s condition?. Still in hospital?.
------------- Donny Knights - best team in Yorkshire
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2024 at 20:58
FHLH wrote:
Extract from the Cambridge Chairman circular following the Ealing match:
"...... a distinctly sobering experience; as some mitigation, they have 47 full time professional players, and private investment north of £5m pa; that said, I know the squad will be unhappy with their performance"
What do you do with that many paid professionals? Surely must be an over estimate.
2024 Trailfinders accounts show sponsorship of ~£5.3m and charitable donations of £7.5m to the Trailfinders Charitable Trust. I'm sure that some, but not all, of the sponsorship goes to rugby club - accounts show charitable donations to Rugby of ~£3.4m in 2023.
Funding such as this puts the Championship in context.
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It is probably an under estimate! They list 52 players in their men's squad - https://ealingtrailfinders.com/mens-squad/" rel="nofollow - Men's Squad - Ealing Trailfinders Rugby Club , so they are plenty of players picking up a decent sum of money to do a bit of training and watch rugby on the weekend.
I have never understood how donations from a charity to a professional rugby club of £7.5m meets a charitable purpose! https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/charitable-purposes/charitable-purposes#the-advancement-of-amateur-sport" rel="nofollow - Charitable purposes - GOV.UK
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2024 at 23:17
The Blues wrote:
I have never understood how donations from a charity to a professional rugby club of £7.5m meets a charitable purpose! https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/charitable-purposes/charitable-purposes#the-advancement-of-amateur-sport" rel="nofollow - Charitable purposes - GOV.UK |
The £7.5m goes to the charity and only part of that £3.4m goes to Rugby from the Charity
At face value that's £5.3m in sponsorship from Trailfinders and £3.4m from the Charity - would that we all have level of income.
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