Round 11 Fixtures
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Topic: Round 11 Fixtures
Posted By: castleparknight
Subject: Round 11 Fixtures
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2025 at 14:45
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Chinnor vs Ealing Caldy vs Nottingham Hartpury vs Pirates Bedford vs Ampthill Cambridge v London Scottish Coventry vs Doncaster ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2025 at 14:49
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My Guesses: Chinnor 0 vs 5 Ealing - although the pitch and lights may have a say Caldy 1 vs 5 Nottingham - Caldy struggling a tad and Nottingham doing well Hartpury 4 vs 1 Pirates - Difficult to shout out so giving a home win Bedford 5 vs 1 Ampthill - expect a decent crowd and home advantage Cambridge 1 v 5 London Scottish - dependent on Scottish Team selection Coventry 5 vs 2 Doncaster - I would like to say Doncaster but at home Coventry going strong  ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2025 at 15:30
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Cambridge v London Scottish ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2025 at 15:50
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Of Course I will Add them :-) ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: Stalwart*
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2025 at 15:52
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Chinnor 0 vs Ealing 5 Caldy 1 vs Nottingham 4 Hartpury 1 vs Pirates 4 Bedford 5 vs Ampthill 1 Coventry 4 vs Doncaster 1 Cambridge 1 vs London Scottish 4 ------------- Pirate |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2025 at 19:20
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Chinnor 2-5 Ealing Caldy 0-5 Nottingham Hartpury 5-0 Pirates Bedford 5-2 Ampthill Cambridge 2-2 London Scottish? Coventry 4-1 Doncaster ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2025 at 19:52
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Chinnor 1 vs Ealing 5 Caldy 1 vs Nottingham 5 Hartpury 4 vs Pirates 1 Bedford 5 vs Ampthill p Coventry 4 vs Doncaster 1 Cambridge 1 vs London Scottish 4 |
Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2025 at 20:04
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Chinnor 0 vs Ealing 5 Caldy 0 vs Nottingham 5 Hartpury 5 vs Pirates 1 Bedford 5 vs Ampthill 1 Coventry 5 vs Doncaster 0 Cambridge 1 vs London Scottish 5 |
Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2025 at 21:40
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Chinnor 1-5 Ealing ( Ealing to record their first ever win at Kingsey Road, having lost in 2009 )
Caldy 1-4 Nottingham ( Archers to edge to victory after a spirited performance from the Ravers ) Hartpury 5-0 Pirates ( Hartpury a force at home ) Bedford 5-0 Ampthill ( The Mob to get well beaten irrespective of the number of Baby Sarries in their side ) Coventry 5-0 Doncaster ( Cov to bounce back after their poor run ) Cambridge 4-1 London Scottish ( depends on how many Quins turn up for an away game ) |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2025 at 23:09
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Chinnor 0 - 5 Ealing - however Ealing have struggled on heavier pitches in the past, they have the power for it Caldy 1 - 5 Nottingham - Nottingham's back are too much for Caldy Hartpury 5 - 2 Pirates - Home advantage in a high scoring game Bedford 5 - 1 Ampthill - although a derby Blues will have been working on their attack ready for this (Edited for Ampthill team selection) Cambridge 1 - 5 London Scottish - Cambridge weren't good v Blues and Scottish ran us close both recently Coventry 2 - 5 Doncaster - should and probably will be home advantage but decided to go the other way! |
Posted By: Jezmar
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2025 at 08:59
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Chinnor 1 vs 4 Ealing (although with the sprinklers on overnight and fuses being loosened in the meter cupboard, who knows another upset maybe on the cards) Caldy 0 vs 5 Nottingham Hartpury 5 vs 1 Pirates Bedford 5 vs 0 Ampthill Cambridge 1 v 4 London Scottish Coventry 5 vs 1 Doncaster |
Posted By: Old Gold
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2025 at 10:49
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Chinnor 0 - 5 Ealing Caldy 0 - 5 Nottingham Hartpury 5 - 2 Pirates Bedford 5 - 2 Ampthill Cambridge 1 - 5 London Scottish? Coventry 4 - 1 Doncaster ------------- #AClubForLife💛❤️🖤 |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2025 at 13:54
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Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2025 at 14:19
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Is Craig Hampson still a backs/attack coach at Chinnor? I thought that it was planned/agreed for him to be sitting out the Chinnor v Ealing matches this season due to a conflict of interest? Likewise Worboys on the bench. He was one of the driving forces behind Chinnor's promotion from National 1 whilst on loan from Bath last year. He has also played for Chinnor in the Championship this season. Are there any regulations surrounding a player playing for one club against another that he has represented on loan in the same season. I'm not sure but would be interested to know.
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Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2025 at 15:09
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Chinnor's website lists Hampson as Head Coach with Nick Easter Director of Rugby. None of Chinnor's loanees from Ealing are playing tomorrow. I've no idea if any agreement was made over Hampson playing against Chinnor Here is the Chinnor side https://x.com/ChinnorRFCThame/status/1879862002333675832" rel="nofollow - https://x.com/ChinnorRFCThame/status/1879862002333675832
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2025 at 17:19
| I believe the Hampson issue was addressed here: https://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/all/domestic-club-rugby-union/the-english-rugby-championship/425719/hampson-can-keep-on-playing-and-coaching/" rel="nofollow - https://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/all/domestic-club-rugby-union/the-english-rugby-championship/425719/hampson-can-keep-on-playing-and-coaching/ |
Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2025 at 19:00
George Worboys is listed on the bench for Ealing tomorrow vs Chinnor. He has been on loan to Chinnor from Ealing at some point this season, playing at fly half.
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fatbear wrote:Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2025 at 19:02
Thanks. Unfortunately I can't read that article in full. Must be a first at Level 2 to have a head coach of one side playing against that said side in a professional capacity.
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Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2025 at 19:30
Worboys started twice and came off the bench once
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Posted By: All the Way
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2025 at 22:02
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Chinnor 0 v Ealing 5 Caldy 1 v Nottingham 5 Hartpury 1 v Pirates 4 Bedford 5 v Ampthill 1 Coventry 5 v Doncaster 1 Cambridge 1 v London Scottish 4 |
Posted By: greenpower
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 06:56
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chinnor 0 5 ealing caldy 1 5 nottingham hartpury 5 1 pirates bedford 5 0 ampthill coventry 4 1 doncaster cambridge 1 4 scottish
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Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 08:03
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Chinnor 1 v Ealing 5 Caldy 1 v Nottingham 5 Hartpury 1 v Pirates 4 Bedford 5 v Ampthill 1 Coventry 5 v Doncaster 1 Cambridge 1 v London Scottish 4 |
Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 12:01
I wish Chinnor good luck this evening, it'll be an intriguing match up and Ealing will be wary of not 'doing a Caldy' and being beaten by newly promoted part timers as they were at Paton Field two seasons ago. Providing their is some trace of grass on the pitch and the lights have been topped up with Duracell Bunny juice, It'll make for a good evening. Hampson will be able to tell his (playing) colleagues about the 'coach to clubhouse' farm yard walk too.
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Posted By: Bluesman11
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 12:35
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There are 10, yes 10, Saracens players starting for Ampthill tomorrow. For context, Bedford have one Saints player starting. I’m not as opposed to DR as some members of this forum, I do think there is a good balance that can be achieved. But 10 is completely taking the pi**. I think Ampthill should be considered favourites for the game tomorrow. London Scottish take the most flak on here but I don’t think even they have fielded 10 Quins in the their team at any point. ------------- Championship Prediction League Winner 11/12 |
Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 12:46
That is ridiculous. What is the point of fielding a starting lineup with 10 players who are essentially from a different club (Saracens) under the banner of it being an Ampthill team? The Mob fans might as well just go to the StoneX and watch Saracens 1st team play if they are content with the direction of travel and ethos that Ampthill have adopted. They are an old club who fought their way through the National Leagues to Level 2, but have clearly lost their way now, which is a shame. Perhaps agreeing to become a Saracens 2nd team is part of a deal if they want to stay at Level 2 when Prem 2 arrives.
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 13:20
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Blues have 3 Saints and a loan from Rosslyn Park 15. Louis James, 14. Matt Worley, 13. Michael Le Bourgeois (C), 12. Joel Matavesi, 11. Dean Adamson, 10. Will Maisey, 9. James Lennon; 1. Jamie Jack, 2. Tommy Herman, 3. Oisin Heffernan, 4. Rory Ward, 5. Alex Woolford, 6. Luke Frost, 7. Fyn Brown, 8. Fred Tuilagi 16. Craig Wright, 17. Joey Conway, 18. Austin Hay, 19. George Smith, 20. Cameron King, 21. Joe Howard, 22. Alex Day, 23. Lucas Titherington Jac Arthur, Shay Kerry, Jamie Elliott, Pat Tapley, Alfie Garside |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 13:21
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Cov's erstwhile record of seven wins from seven is in danger of being bookended by a run of seven defeats from seven if they continue to name lineups like tomorrow's. Rather worrying. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 13:24
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Ampthill have 9 travelling reserves, also known as 1st players dropped for Sarries Team to play Bedford 1. Sam Crean 2. Samson Adejimi 3. Harvey Beaton 4. Kennedy Sylvester 5. Kaden Pearce-Paul 6. Max Eke 7. Charles Ryland 8. Lekima Ravuvu 9. Charlie Bracken 10. Louie Johnson 11. Brandon Jackson 12. Fraser Strachan (C) 13. Sam Spink 14. Wilson Ijeh 15. Josh Barton Replacements: 16. Luke Thompson 17. Harrison Courtney 18. James Johnston 19. Arthur Thomas 20. Syd Blackmore 21. Rory Morgan 22. Josh Hallett 23. Mason Cullen TR |
Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 13:32
Ampthill had 11 Saracens in their squad when they played Chinnor in September but I don't know what the split was between starters and the number on the bench. London Scottish started with 9 Quins and had another three on the bench against Chinnor in December. All three Quins subs came on but I don't know if they ever had 10, 11 or 12 Quins on the pitch at the same time.
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Posted By: BigChief
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 17:17
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Chinnor 0 - 5 Ealing Caldy 0 - 5 Nottingham Hartpury 5 - 1 Cornish Pirates Bedford 5 - 0 Ampthill Coventry 5 - 1 Doncaster Cambridge 0 - 4 London Scottish ------------- For the ordinary purposes of conversation, a superficial knowledge of many things goes further than an intimacy with one or two. |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 17:56
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I haven't analysed all the selections, but given it's a European w/e & some of the Prem clubs are taking it seriously while others are less fussed, you'd imagine there'll be discrepancies based on which Prem club or clubs (if any) a Champ club has links with... (this point was made on today's edition of the Champ Clubs Podcast)
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Posted By: Donnyknightfan
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 19:38
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Chinnor 1-5 Ealing Caldy 1-5 Nottingham Hartpury 1-4 Cornish Pirates Bedford 5-2 Ampthill Coventry 5-2 Doncaster - Depends on which version of both teams turns up - could be anything Cambridge 1-5 London Scottish ------------- Donny Knights - best team in Yorkshire |
Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 19:50
| Chinnor 3 Ealing 0 |
Posted By: Jezmar
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 19:54
| Pitch in fine fettle at Kingsey Road |
Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 20:00
| Chinnor 3 Ealing 7 |
Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 20:16
| Chinnor 3 Ealing 14 |
Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 20:23
| Chinnor 3 Ealing 21 ht |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 20:51
Ealing held up just before the half.
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 21:43
| Ealing 28 (BP) - Chinnor 8 - FT |
Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 21:43
No disgrace in that scoreline. Well done Chinnor for limiting Ealing and their free-flowing backs to 4 tries and for scoring one of your own. Glad the pitch was in fine fettle and that the lights shone brightly (for the whole evening) 
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Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 21:56
It wasn't the Ealing backs making the difference but the Ealing forwards
dominated the lineouts and the scrum so Chinnor rarely saw the ball.
I'll post the usual match report tomorrow
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 23:33
The big question is what did poor Josh Hallett do to now make the team, they could have moved or dropped Strachan to make it 11.
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2025 at 00:10
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Is there an Ampthill Rugby Club Championship squad? Is 10 DR a record? Any Ampthill members here with an opinion other than it's in the regulations? ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2025 at 06:41
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I played for Ampthill in the 1970s and early 1980s. It was a wonderful club. And since my retirement in 1985, and then moving away from the area, I watched its growth and rise through the leagues with great interest. Such a small club taking on the bigger boys one by one and beating them. I was delighted when they got into the Championship and hoped they would do really well. And they did. However, this season especially, I get the feeling that something has gone wrong. It is just my perception as I have no idea of anything behind the scenes, and I cannot attend their matches as I now live too far away, so cannot pick up any vibes from the supporters. But I do not like the current total reliance of another club supplying players on a week in week out basis. Today's team, as an example, contains two debutants, both from Saracens. How can a team gain cohesion and togetherness if there are new players at every training session? They might do very well at Bedford today but it is not what I call an Ampthill team when it contains so many mercenaries. COVID upset everything and in addition we have a RFU boss man who takes home as much money every year as the entire pot handed out to all the Championship clubs put together. I genuinely fear for the future of this great game outside the Premiership which is why today I will be attending the National League 2 game between Wharfedale and Otley. The standard of play will be good, the crowd will make their presence felt, and the ground is picturesque. And the squads will consist of home grown talent who play for the club week in and week out. ------------- Always trying to stay bright-eyed and bushy-tailed. |
Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2025 at 07:27
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Cherub, The gossip locally is that Lavery is stopping his backing of the club. Obviously it's a very wealthy town so someone else might fill that gap. For mini and junior rugby Ampthill remains massive around here, generally running two sides at every age group. However the challenge will always be that most local rugby fans will go and watch Bedford and Saints before thinking about paying to go to Ampthill.
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2025 at 08:42
I'm probably wrong but I seem to recall there being a limit on how many Dr players can be in the starting 15, which I think is 10.
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Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2025 at 09:27
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As promised, here is the report from last night's game between Chinnor and Ealing for anyone interested https://fatbearssportingdiaries.blogspot.com/2025/01/chinnor-8-28-ealing-trailfinders-att.html" rel="nofollow - https://fatbearssportingdiaries.blogspot.com/2025/01/chinnor-8-28-ealing-trailfinders-att.html
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2025 at 10:05
A really nice write up. The only thing that I would say is that Matt Cornish is former London Irish, but originally Trailfinders Academy, who earned over 50 caps for the first team before moving to Irish, then coming back when they went bust.
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Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2025 at 10:10
Thanks Gerg, I'll make an edit for Cornish !
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Posted By: Jezmar
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2025 at 11:22
My understanding there is no official regulation in place, however a gentlemans agreement was made between all clubs not to include more than 6 in a match day squad. This will become a regulation next season I believe. I think three clubs were unable to agree to the gentlemans agreement.
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2025 at 11:42
Men’s Rugby – Loan Players and England Academy Players in a Match Day Squad 48. A Club may not play or select as a replacement or substitute in a Match more than the number of Players set out below: (a) Premiership: no more than three Loan Players and unlimited England Academy Players under the age of 24 as at 1 September 2024. (b) Championship: no more than three Loan Players and no more than ten England Academy Players under the age of 24 as at 1 September 2024.
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Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2025 at 12:20
I presume London Scottish and Ampthill are two of the suspects here, but who is the third 'ungentlemanly' club with regards to this matter, Hartpury? I think it's all been said before, but so long as the rules (or lack of) allow for it, there will continue to be Harlequins, Saracens and Gloucester (?) 2nd teams turning out each weekend. As mentioned previously, the logic of it all escapes me and I'm surprised the supporters at these clubs tolerate it.
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Posted By: Trailfinder
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2025 at 12:32
I really enjoyed that write up, thank you fatbear.
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