Minor/Major improvement works version 2
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Topic: Minor/Major improvement works version 2
Posted By: gerg_861
Subject: Minor/Major improvement works version 2
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2023 at 10:18
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Perhaps the last one got off track, so the thread is locked but I've received the annual members update from TFSC in the post today. This includes a few key items for Vallis Way improvements: 1. New small stand built seating 111, bringing total seated to 2115. 2. East Stand Bar added. 3. Existing screen being refurbished, and smaller outdoor screen being added. 4. Plan for additional new stands before new year stated by Sir Mike Gooley. |
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2023 at 15:02
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Northampton had scaffolding stands for a while in 1998 ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: SK 88
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2023 at 18:31
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Quins did in the 90s too, obviously Bath have a demountable stand still now, Tigers did from roughly 2003 to 2015 before we built the replacement for the clubhouse. Exeter's two end stands are less permanent than they sometimes look. Saracens' end stands come down in the summer too for athletics. Could be a very good solution for Ealing.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2023 at 11:48
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Wasps stands were completely dtachable too. Or was that the entire 'club'? ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2023 at 22:13
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Blues have done a bit of work to the ground, not quite Ealing standards https://bedfordrugby.co.uk/news/2023/08/summer-works-update-goldington-road" rel="nofollow - https://bedfordrugby.co.uk/news/2023/08/summer-works-update-goldington-road
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2023 at 22:21
This was a well written update that made me chuckle, especially the bit about sprucing up the ref room to get more decisions.
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The Blues wrote:Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2023 at 07:57
The article link above states that the replacement of the main grandstand roof was unplanned and will now meet the new safety certificate standards. What was the problem ? ------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff. |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2023 at 09:42
| I’m not sure but it was very old and probably the original one so as standards change I guess it wasn’t fit for purpose. One of the sponsors stepped in quickly and did it for cost. |
Posted By: chas
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2023 at 11:19
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I believe that the roof suffered damage from adverse weather conditions. |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2024 at 14:41
| Ealing has applied for a further 500 seat stand as of October, just on planning portal recently. There are two comments in support, and one in vehement opposition. |
Posted By: Bedford Bear
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2024 at 12:38
It was old compared to modern building standards, but safe while intact. If it had become damaged by weather conditions etc. the safety inspection and certification would probably not have been granted until specialist removal and a new roof added. Just my thoughts!
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2024 at 06:06
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Ealing have had planning permission granted for a 500 seat stand. This would be situated diagonally to the existing 1000 seat East stand and opposite the Centenary Clubhouse in a strange little corner of space between the main pitch and the upper 3G practice pitch. The total height will be only 5.5m, compared to 11m for the East stand, so quite modest. The view should be a bit better than the East stand, but the best seats will be going out to the 22 or so. This will bring bring seated capacity to c. 2700.
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2024 at 13:53
This must qualify Ealing Trailfinders for most empty seats in the league . ------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff. |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2024 at 14:21
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In the Championship maybe, but it is still well below Darlington MP. Probably below Bristol. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2024 at 15:15
Most of us could only dream of Bristol's average crowd of nearly 18500 though! Darlington's, on the other hand... ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2024 at 09:09
As an update, this stand is now complete. Was a bit surprised to see that it is uncovered.
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Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2024 at 09:35
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I expect not putting a roof on it is "easier" from a planning perspective. Still, good on em for getting it done.
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2024 at 09:38
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It does sound like there were height issues with planning. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2024 at 11:31
| The sun always shines in Ealing! |
Posted By: Trailfinder
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2024 at 22:55
| I was surprised to see that Ealing have laid a new artificial turf on the main pitch, one that uses some form of wood chippings instead of rubber crumb? Not seen anything like it before, I overheard one of the players saying they needed new boots to play on it. |
Posted By: tulip
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2024 at 08:26
| If that’s true what do the visiting teams do |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2024 at 08:29
Do you think they care? ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2024 at 10:18
Might be slipping around more than Ealing. Imagine playing in blades on a muddy surface. Could be same effect with these wood chips against rubber bits.
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2024 at 10:48
| For clarity, this new surface uses tiny bits of cork |
Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2024 at 11:29
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Thanks Happily corrected After a quick Google it seems this reduces injuries which is good news.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2024 at 12:36
I mean, do you think Ealing care? Any advantage gained by the home side - as long as it's legal and ethical (and that's another debate for someone else) is fair game these days. Ealing are in it to win it.... again. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2024 at 12:54
Third time's the charm. Don't know if anyone outside of Ealing fans have noticed, but Ealing has added two stars to their (ugly) home kit to represent their two Championship wins.
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Posted By: Trailfinder
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2024 at 17:08
Ok makes much more sense thanks! In response to the naysayers then, I presume this goes some way to reduce burn injuries which have been a common (justified) criticism of these types of pitches. Not some Machiavellian attempt at a marginal gain over opponents.
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Posted By: renbiv
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2024 at 20:19
Yeah I spotted that on the media shots. It's a nice little touch. I quite like the new kit. Definitely looks better in person. But it's a bit of a change moving away from the hoops so I get one some don't like it.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2024 at 20:45
Possibly, but I don't recall any such on Cov's 3g (happy to be corrected). I think basic maintenance/ correct watering are the key here. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2024 at 20:01
| Oh my...Ealing's new flood lights are programmable. They can dynamically lower them or have them flash along with music. |
Posted By: OLDALIKADOO10
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2024 at 21:45
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The new floodlights are a PWR requirement. They are LED and more energy efficient. They do indeed provide a light show, as each panel is individually controlled, after each try. Just need to sync the music The new pitch is what they use in the NFL. The footwear restrictions were in place whilst the pitch bedding in. bit like back in the day when you bought a new carpet. The players i spoke to like it. Its more like grass and the ball bounces as such. One of the interns is doing a dissertation on injuries on the new pitch compared to the old plastic pitch. A very useful piece of analysis IMHO
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Posted By: pb1
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2024 at 08:17
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Just to confirm a few details regarding new pitch at Trailfinders. It is wood, Georgia Pine not cork and is used mainly in US at minute on Football, American Football and Rugby pitches there. A number of benefits to rubber, more environmentally friendly in use and recycling at end of life. A lot cooler than rubber pitches. More realistic bounce, less spin etc than rubber and no massive splash of material once it has settled in. Better to turn on and run on, less injuries, less abrasive so hopefully will make for a better game and safer for players. You dont need new boots for it haha, the same footwear for every 3G surface any where in the world is needed. |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2024 at 13:08
Interesting - I had felt some of the grains, and it definitely felt like cork to me, but I'm happy to be educated if you know definitively. I will say though that my son's mini's age group did their practice on there on Sunday, and he came off with bloody burns on both knees, something that we hadn't seen from the previous rubber pitch. That is entirely anecdotal and a sample size of one 7 year old child of course.
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2024 at 21:16
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Perhaps players will wear skins for protection then. ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: cheshire exile
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2024 at 21:25
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In deepest Cornwall we will labour on with our badly drained pitch. But it remains the best place you could ever wish to watch a match.
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Posted By: *Stalwart
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2024 at 21:59
That's a bit harsh Cheshire - the drainage is much improved over the last few seasons and there was still quite a lot of grass on it at the end of the season! ------------- *Stalwart |
Posted By: MarkyMark
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2024 at 07:35
| I agree, old grounds with grass. Only way to go. |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2024 at 08:31
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Hartpury ground renamed |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2024 at 11:07
It has a certain ring to it, even if a bit clumsy. You can't beat a bit of sponsorship. 'ED Hartpury Stadium, with Vodafone’ How about the Vodafone Championship? ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: Wigwam
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2024 at 11:45
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Having witnessed my nipper suffer three nasty injuries whilst playing on this stuff I have to say I hate it. It should be used for drill training only. ------------- Pace Power Perfection |
Posted By: Bedford Bear
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2024 at 06:31
It's also easier without a roof for licensing purposes as it doesn't require SGSA Safety certification, whereas a covered stand with accommodation for 500 or more seats must be regulated. |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2024 at 08:59
Interesting that you would mention this certification. I was involved in a timed evacuation audit of the 1000 seat covered East Stand at TFSC a couple weeks ago. I wonder if it was part of that process.
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Posted By: Bedford Bear
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2024 at 11:44
Just coincidental, I was recalling safety certification I was connected with, probably 15 years ago when involved with safety capacities. |