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Topic: Level 5 2024 25 in case not seen
Posted By: Archangel
Subject: Level 5 2024 25 in case not seen
Date Posted: 15 May 2024 at 11:37
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Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 15 May 2024 at 14:00
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The South Central Division looks particularly interesting. ------------- I could have been a contender. |
Posted By: Happy
Date Posted: 15 May 2024 at 14:06
| Looks absolutely brutal tbqh |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 15 May 2024 at 16:19
How would you define "brutal" Happy? The travel distances across R2SC look potentially quite big - 2 hours or even a tiny bit more if going from one extreme to t'other, and probably more time on m25 than many would like - but when whole country is split across only 6 leagues then long-ish journeys are going to be a factor quite a bit... Or are you referring to there being a high quality of competition? If so, that's a bonus, isn't it?
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Rothman2 wrote:Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 15 May 2024 at 16:57
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Alnwick to Lincolnshire, Newport to Penrith, St Austell to Marlborough or even Amersham to North Walsham are hardly local derbies. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Happy
Date Posted: 15 May 2024 at 17:42
| Was commenting on some of the player recruitment London Welsh for example signing the likes of Steve shingler and Timmy Bell with the quality of Matt Hodgson already there is going to be tough tough tough. plus jersey signing former Jersey pro Dan Barnes. You also have ex Richmond DoR Steve hill taking over a very unlucky and very good Wimbledon side added having to go to places like Maidenhead and Twells and Camberley to mention a few is going to be a brutal league to play in week in week out |
Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 15 May 2024 at 18:28
| It'll be a tough league, it certainly was last year. |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 15 May 2024 at 18:36
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Exciting, competitive, tough are all positive features for a league IMHO, so let's hope they are relevant here - I think they will be. I'd expect rugby at this level to be physical, and I guess 'brutal' is an alternative word for that, albeit a bit clichéd (pundits like Ugo Monye and David Flatman use it a lot). 22 games should be a manageable workload for players, altho' I realise some may be involved in cups or other rugby once the league's finished...
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Posted By: Stoatgobbler
Date Posted: 16 May 2024 at 01:17
2 ex-Championship teams, of sorts. A nice away trip to Jersey is back on the menu.
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Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 16 May 2024 at 09:56
We also played Bracknell at L2 in the old National One in 2001-02.
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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 16 May 2024 at 12:12
True but no regional leagues comprise entirely of local derbies do they?
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Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 16 May 2024 at 12:31
This
 . I know people are unhappy with the make-up of certain leagues, particularly at L4 - and putting Macclesfield or Chester in the south west does look stupid on paper - but North Walsham v Redruth/ Camborne/ Mounts Bay has been a fairly regular fixture for over 30 years. Yet everyone tolerates that because it's based upon the RFU divisional boundaries that were created based upon train lines in the 19th century. We accepted level transfers under the old system, so why can't we accept them now? |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 16 May 2024 at 15:09
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It is as far from Mount's Bay to North Walsham as from Southampton to Edinburgh. When there were only two leagues, the level transferred sides were Rugby, Leister Lions, Hinkley and Ampthill. No Southern side went North, though the East Midlands sides who played in the North, Bedford Athletic, Peterborough and Ampthill, had long trips. Since the move to three leagues, National 2 East has features sides from the London division plus Henley and now Oxford Harlequins. National 2 North has only featured sides from the North division. National 2 West has the South Western sides, except Henley and Oxford, and all the Midlands sides and for the last two years a Cheshire side. And I do not believe that was what many clubs expected would happen. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 16 May 2024 at 16:28
| Do you know what clubs did expect? Was it three horizontal bands (which would still potentially throw up Kent to Cornwall)? Genuine question, I honestly don't know the answer. |
Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 16 May 2024 at 17:10
| Given that the Clubs wanted to retain 4 Divisions, the views on how 3 could be split were a compromise. I did express the view that the Leagues should be Motorway based, East M1, North M62, West M5. The problem is that doesn't help Clubs based in the Midlands or well off the network. Unfortunately, we also cannot detach Cornwall, turn it round and tow it up the Bristol Channel so that Redruth and Camborne are next to Dings and Cinderford. It's so much easier with a rectangular country! |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 16 May 2024 at 22:10
| Is this deep-rooted opposition to the existing system at L5, or just critical analytical chat during the void in which there’s no rugby, and not even any fixtures to get one’s teeth into? I suspect the latter, but maybe I’ve misread it… |
Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 16 May 2024 at 23:10
| For me it is critical analytical chat! |
Posted By: carlos fandango
Date Posted: 17 May 2024 at 09:36
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Perhaps we all just need to realise that no system will ever be perfect and just get on with it. I understand that my club is lucky in being quite central to many of the other teams in our league, but those on the geographical periphery, be it the coast or an imaginary RFU line, will always get the rough end of the stick. Doesn't make it right, doesn't make it wrong; it just is. It's not just rugby it affects. Bishops Stortford FC spent last season in National League North, as did Gloucester City FC. I wouldn't call either of them northern, but if you want equal sized leagues...
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Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 17 May 2024 at 13:53
| Two years ago when Esher were in National 1 our Christmas local derby was Plymouth Albion. We were the closest Club, apparently. This season I’m hoping Dings will take that slot and we can have Richmond, walking distance!! |
Posted By: Front Jumper
Date Posted: 20 May 2024 at 13:16
| All very interesting guys but no sign of the league up for levels 6 and 7 and below. Hundreds of clubs have no idea of who they are playing and when Surely it must be sorted by now |
Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 20 May 2024 at 13:46
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No panic yet. Leagues were announced end of May last year with fixtures a fortnight after that. (At least in South West Rugby)
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Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 20 May 2024 at 14:03
L6 was published at the same time as L3-5.
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 20 May 2024 at 21:00
Exactly - while many might like to know who their fixture is the day they play their last game of the previous season, but that's not realistic. Start dates have already been circulated, so clubs know when their league commitments commence and can plan training & pre-season around that date. Hard-working volunteers might even dare to have a tiny bit of down-time during May. If they hit the 'by 14 June' target, there should be 12 or 13 weeks' notice of the first league game from when the fixtures are announced, which is plenty of time to plan a game...
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Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 21 May 2024 at 07:54
Mark, I hope London Welsh don't have to play 225 League games next season, like you did this ;-) https://www.londonwelshrfc.com/fixtures-results/
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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 21 May 2024 at 11:11
Though for some fixtures, travel/hotels needs to be planned and in certain cases, the earlier the cheaper, the better!  But certainly for me, its just the wanting to see what's to come next season to get rid of some of the off-season blues!
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Posted By: Bigmalc
Date Posted: 29 May 2024 at 14:50
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Its a long way for Macclesfield to all those clubs in the South West - I played for them years ago and live in Bristol now so not too far to see them play down here! Interesting comment about train lines as sides did travel to away games by rail years ago - not quite sure how expensive it was in those days? Not too bad for my club Stockport next year and nice to meet up with Stoke again- thats been a few years. ------------- Malc |
Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2024 at 21:10
 The fixtures are out today!  |
Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2024 at 09:27
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Swrugby.co.uk has all fixtures listed. Yay.
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2024 at 13:55
| And the L&SE ones on rfulondon site too. Considering how people were waiting anxiously & with varying degrees of impatience through most of May, it’s been quiet on here now they are out… |
Posted By: Archangel
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2024 at 14:32
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End of season tour sorted..... Saturday, 5 April 2025 https://www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/search-results?competition=261&season=2024-2025&division=56592#fixtures" rel="nofollow - Regional 1 South East https://www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/search-results?competition=261&team=14805&season=2024-2025#fixtures" rel="nofollow - North Walsham https://www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/match-centre-community?matchId=1134278" rel="nofollow - V https://www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/search-results?competition=261&team=15843&season=2024-2025#fixtures" rel="nofollow - Old Northamptonians ------------- Too old but young enough to learn |
Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2024 at 15:49
None of the clubs I've seen have put theirs out on their socials yet. Probably because they didn't know because the RFU did what they normally do and release them very quietly on a site no one uses except for this. Plus when you tried to check matchbydivision, it kept redirecting you to last season
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Posted By: Neasham
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2024 at 17:27
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It was announced yesterday on the Community Rugby newsletter which promptly led to the fixtures website crashing on and off for 24 hours presumably because of the number of players and supporters trying to access it. |
Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2024 at 17:48
When theres no need to because the regional RFU's upload them (the one and only time anyone goes on their pages a year). https://rfulondon.com/latest-news" rel="nofollow - https://rfulondon.com/latest-news
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Posted By: Stoatgobbler
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2024 at 20:15
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Regional 1 South Central fixtures 24/25. https://www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/search-results?competition=261&division=56591&season=2024-2025#fixtures" rel="nofollow - https://www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/search-results?competition=261&division=56591&season=2024-2025#fixtures My team, London Welsh, have a tough start.
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