Scottish Super Series disbanded
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Topic: Scottish Super Series disbanded
Posted By: gerg_861
Subject: Scottish Super Series disbanded
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2024 at 12:01
Saw this headline today, and thought that it was somewhat interesting in light of what is going on in English Rugby. Scotland seems to think that it can't even support 6 semi-pro teams, and wasn't getting value from them. I believe that many of their matches were also televised.
Also interesting to see that they were not consulted at all, seems familiar.
https://www.theoffsideline.com/super-series-to-be-disbanded/" rel="nofollow - Super Series to be disbanded (theoffsideline.com)
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Posted By: BigChief
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2024 at 12:41
Soo glad that London Scottish didn't go there when it was 'offered' and we decided to remain in our rightful place at L2 in England (how on earth would we have unravelled from that one...) We much prefer the love we get down here in any case !
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2024 at 12:46
gerg_861 wrote:
Saw this headline today, and thought that it was somewhat interesting in light of what is going on in English Rugby. Scotland seems to think that it can't even support 6 semi-pro teams, and wasn't getting value from them. I believe that many of their matches were also televised.
Also interesting to see that they were not consulted at all, seems familiar.
https://www.theoffsideline.com/super-series-to-be-disbanded/" rel="nofollow - Super Series to be disbanded (theoffsideline.com)
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the person pictured in this article, outgoing chief executive Mark Dodson, is reported by the same media outlet to have been paid £676k last year, and "almost certainly in excess of £6.5m over his 12-year stint at the top of Scottish Rugby".
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Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2024 at 14:07
Meanwhile on the western side of the Severn, Wales are building an Elite Championship League (or something).
9 sides are involved. They wanted 10 but Cardiff haven't joined yet so there's a blank space for now.
At least that's how I understand it.
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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2024 at 15:27
gerg_861 wrote:
Saw this headline today, and thought that it was somewhat interesting in light of what is going on in English Rugby. Scotland seems to think that it can't even support 6 semi-pro teams, and wasn't getting value from them. I believe that many of their matches were also televised.
Also interesting to see that they were not consulted at all, seems familiar.
https://www.theoffsideline.com/super-series-to-be-disbanded/" rel="nofollow - Super Series to be disbanded (theoffsideline.com)
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The trouble was that the not so Super Six consisted of six franchises with absolutely no history or tradition. Added to that the competition was appallingly marketed, changed format regularly, games were cancelled in order to play other fixtures at the last minute and teams were told they had to play home games on their opponents ground without consultation.
And as mentioned elsewhere the SRU CEO was paid a fortune for introducing this basket case of a competition.
Does this ring any bells with events in Wales and England in recent years?
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2024 at 16:25
BigChief wrote:
Soo glad that London Scottish didn't go there when it was 'offered' and we decided to remain in our rightful place at L2 in England (how on earth would we have unravelled from that one...) We much prefer the love we get down here in any case !
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Visiting the Scottish and Welsh exiles was always a good day for me, win or lose.
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Posted By: knightandday
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2024 at 23:07
Saw a Super six game last September. One of the Franchises was a Scotland development team, one(Southern knights) was a Borders Franchise playing out of Melrose. The rest were club based I believe (Watsonians, Ayr etc). The guy who was explaining it to me said it wouldn’t work as the Borders were so parochial they wouldn’t travel between the towns to watch them and the franchise had no chance of getting the best players from the borders as they would only play for their Borders town
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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2024 at 13:19
knightandday wrote:
Saw a Super six game last September. One of the Franchises was a Scotland development team, one(Southern knights) was a Borders Franchise playing out of Melrose. The rest were club based I believe (Watsonians, Ayr etc). The guy who was explaining it to me said it wouldn’t work as the Borders were so parochial they wouldn’t travel between the towns to watch them and the franchise had no chance of getting the best players from the borders as they would only play for their Borders town |
I'm afraid this is incorrect. The
original Super Six teams were all franchises based on club grounds. The only
difference between the franchises at Melrose and those at Boroughmuir,
Watsonians, Stirling, Heriot's and Ayr was that the Melrose based one chose a
neutral name (Southern Knights) whereas the others had variations of the
names of the clubs on whose ground they played.
For the most recent competition the Melrose-based
Knights signed Chris Bell (Gala) and Monroe Job (Selkirk) to join fellow former
Borderers Anderson, Borthwick, Rutherford and
Wilson (all ex-Gala), Greer and Sutherland (ex-Hawick) and Cottrell
(ex-Selkirk). I hesitate to say the guy explaining it to you didn't know what
he was talking about but .....
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Posted By: knightandday
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2024 at 17:50
WEvans wrote:
knightandday wrote:
Saw a Super six game last September. One of the Franchises was a Scotland development team, one(Southern knights) was a Borders Franchise playing out of Melrose. The rest were club based I believe (Watsonians, Ayr etc). The guy who was explaining it to me said it wouldn’t work as the Borders were so parochial they wouldn’t travel between the towns to watch them and the franchise had no chance of getting the best players from the borders as they would only play for their Borders town |
I'm afraid this is incorrect. The
original Super Six teams were all franchises based on club grounds. The only
difference between the franchises at Melrose and those at Boroughmuir,
Watsonians, Stirling, Heriot's and Ayr was that the Melrose based one chose a
neutral name (Southern Knights) whereas the others had variations of the
names of the clubs on whose ground they played.
For the most recent competition the Melrose-based
Knights signed Chris Bell (Gala) and Monroe Job (Selkirk) to join fellow former
Borderers Anderson, Borthwick, Rutherford and
Wilson (all ex-Gala), Greer and Sutherland (ex-Hawick) and Cottrell
(ex-Selkirk). I hesitate to say the guy explaining it to you didn't know what
he was talking about but .....
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That’s absolutely fine, I took what he said at face value.
What was good value was I got to see three games straight after each other for £7. A most enjoyable afternoon/evening.
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Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2024 at 18:17
knightandday wrote:
WEvans wrote:
[QUOTE=knightandday
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That’s absolutely fine, I took what he said at face value.
What was good value was I got to see three games straight after each other for £7. A most enjoyable afternoon/evening. |
A Typical Yorkshireman’s response. Value is everything.😂😂
I hope you’re well K&D, it’s been a long time .
Take care matey
All the best
ST
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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2024 at 18:32
No-one it seems have grasped the reality that no-one in the borders will support another club/franchise that is not their town team. The Border Reivers was another failed example of lack of any knowledge as to what exists. It perfectly highlights the total lack of any planning or understanding of the game in Scotland by the SRFU, we think the English RFU is living on another planet, well the Murrayfield lot are not even in the same Universe.
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Posted By: knightandday
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2024 at 20:44
Sedge Tiger wrote:
knightandday wrote:
WEvans wrote:
[QUOTE=knightandday
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That’s absolutely fine, I took what he said at face value.
What was good value was I got to see three games straight after each other for £7. A most enjoyable afternoon/evening. |
A Typical Yorkshireman’s response. Value is everything.😂😂
I hope you’re well K&D, it’s been a long time .
Take care matey
All the best
ST |
Thanks ST, certainly better than last year after the triple bypass. Dad’s still about as well, 90 this year.
You take care of yourself
K&D.
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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2024 at 14:26
tigerburnie wrote:
No-one it seems have grasped the reality that no-one in the borders will support another club/franchise that is not their town team. The Border Reivers was another failed example of lack of any knowledge as to what exists. It perfectly highlights the total lack of any planning or understanding of the game in Scotland by the SRFU, we think the English RFU is living on another planet, well the Murrayfield lot are not even in the same Universe. |
Happily(?) for them the chief alien is about to depart albeit having spent most of their funds and put much of the rest into his bank account.
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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2024 at 14:33
WEvans wrote:
tigerburnie wrote:
No-one it seems have grasped the reality that no-one in the borders will support another club/franchise that is not their town team. The Border Reivers was another failed example of lack of any knowledge as to what exists. It perfectly highlights the total lack of any planning or understanding of the game in Scotland by the SRFU, we think the English RFU is living on another planet, well the Murrayfield lot are not even in the same Universe. |
Happily(?) for them the chief alien is about to depart albeit having spent most of their funds and put much of the rest into his bank account. |
I saw a quote of over £6 million during his tenure, I think I had better dig my cv out if there's a vacancy coming up.
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