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Topic: 24/25 Week 1
Posted By: FHLH
Subject: 24/25 Week 1
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2024 at 16:32
Week One 1st / 2nd November 

There are some tasty fixtures coming up - issues include DR (regrettably) but main interest, for me, is Caldy at home to Newcastle. Caldy are quite capable of turning over higher clubs but then Newcastle went and beat Exeter. Caldy's performance will be interesting, notwithstanding their bottom position especially after their decent showing against Coventry. Saints fixture also looks tasty - but it's Premiership clubs so doesn't count WinkWink)

Pirates v Exeter (possible DR issues??)

Doncaster v Sale (testing for Doncaster)

Northampton v Leicester (home win)

Nottingham v Coventry (Cov looking to make a point)

Ampthill v Bath (good gate £ for Amps as Bedford are far away)

Caldy v Newcastle Falcons (chance for Caldy)

London Scottish v Harlequins (possible DR issues)

Hartpury RFC v Gloucester (possible DR issues)

Bristol v Bedford Blues (tough nut for Blues to crack)

Ealing Trailfinders v Saracens (Ealing have point to make)



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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."



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Posted By: *Stalwart
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2024 at 19:40
The Pirates v Exeter game is sold out! A good result for the club whatever happens on the field.

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Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2024 at 20:01
From a Chinnor point of view, waiting to hear how much compensation Chinnor and Cambridge will received for their loss of income after being shafted...........

Shame on all the Championship clubs for gleefully taking the money..........


Posted By: *Stalwart
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2024 at 21:54
Originally posted by fatbear fatbear wrote:

From a Chinnor point of view, waiting to hear how much compensation Chinnor and Cambridge will received for their loss of income after being shafted...........

Shame on all the Championship clubs for gleefully taking the money..........
I feel your pain and think it's a disgrace the way Chinnor and Cambridge were treated. But this is the reality of where we are. 


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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2024 at 04:12
Originally posted by fatbear fatbear wrote:

From a Chinnor point of view, waiting to hear how much compensation Chinnor and Cambridge will received for their loss of income after being shafted...........

Looking at the fixtures above it's going to be an extraordinary day at the tills for a few Championship clubs. Confused Not sure what parking Ampthill have in place. 



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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."


Posted By: Baggins
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2024 at 08:33
Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:

Originally posted by fatbear fatbear wrote:

From a Chinnor point of view, waiting to hear how much compensation Chinnor and Cambridge will received for their loss of income after being shafted...........

Looking at the fixtures above it's going to be an extraordinary day at the tills for a few Championship clubs. Confused Not sure what parking Ampthill have in place. 


Same as usual; zero

It is also not a town blessed with large amounts of car parking

Should be an interesting day for residents


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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2024 at 10:00
Originally posted by Baggins Baggins wrote:

Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:

Originally posted by fatbear fatbear wrote:

From a Chinnor point of view, waiting to hear how much compensation Chinnor and Cambridge will received for their loss of income after being shafted...........

Looking at the fixtures above it's going to be an extraordinary day at the tills for a few Championship clubs. Confused Not sure what parking Ampthill have in place. 


Same as usual; zero

It is also not a town blessed with large amounts of car parking

Should be an interesting day for residents

Can't remember the number(s), but there was a perfectly decent bus service from Flitwick Station, and I believe Bedford too, for those prepared to devise their own park 'n' ride options, or indeed to train the whole way (2' 56" from Bath Spa according to Trainline)


Posted By: JZSmith
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2024 at 11:53
Quins v Quins should be a classic!


Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2024 at 12:14
Originally posted by JZSmith JZSmith wrote:

Quins v Quins should be a classic!

Cynical? Moi? Wink


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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."


Posted By: BigChief
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2024 at 15:43
Originally posted by JZSmith JZSmith wrote:

Quins v Quins should be a classic!

As will; Gloss' v Gloss' and Chiefs v Chiefs
I'm sure

LOL


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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2024 at 16:18
Of these two teams, 11 from both sides have played for Leicester Lions in past couple of years(one when they were in Nat 2). Nice to see Nat 1 is involved in the players development, sure some other clubs will have also had some of these young players turn out for them. Four of the Tigers squad have played in Nat 1 this season and one of the Saints players played for Lions last week, will be a big step up for him.
15 George Pearson *

14 Malelili Satala *

13 Will Wand [4]

12 Solomone Kata [20]

11 Jack Kinder *

10 Jamie ShillHuckleberry [32]

9 Tom Whiteley [31]

1 James Whitcombe [51]

2 Finn Theobald-Thomas [11]

3 Tim Hoyt [2]

4 Côme Joussain [5]

5 Tom Manz [8]

6 Matt Rogerson [18]

7 Emeka Ilione [25]

8 Kyle Hatherell [22]

REPLACEMENTS

16 Archie Vanes [14]

17 Archie van der Flier [1]

18 Henry Mountford *

19 Lewis Chessum [9]

20 Sam Williams *

21 Charlie Bemand *

22 Charlie Myall [1]

23 Tom Threlfall *

*Leicester Tigers senior debut

Saints

15 George Hendy
14 Mitieli Vulikijapani* – Saint #2097
13 Tom Litchfield
12 Charlie Savala
11 Tom Seabrook
10 George Makepeace-Cubitt
9 Archie McParland

1 Tarek Haffar
2 Craig Wright
3 Luke Green
4 Chunya Munga (c)
5 Gavin Thornbury
6 Fyn Brown – Saint #2096
7 Angus Scott-Young
8 Henry Pollock

Replacements:
16 Nathan Langdon – Northampton Saints debut
17 Emmanuel Iyogun
18 Sonny Tonga’uiha – Northampton Saints debut
19 Will Spencer – Northampton Saints debut
20 Josh Kemeny
21 Jonny Weimann – Northampton Saints debut
22 James Ramm
23 Ewan Baker

*denotes guest player


Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2024 at 16:30
I remember when Will Wand was playing for Cambridge Exiles before he cemented a fist team shirt.
Tom Whiteley had a couple of games with us.
Archie Vanes had five.


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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2024 at 16:37
Originally posted by BigChief BigChief wrote:

Originally posted by JZSmith JZSmith wrote:

Quins v Quins should be a classic!

As will; Gloss' v Gloss' and Chiefs v Chiefs
I'm sure

LOL

Chiefs vs. Pirates is a sellout. So that is 3000 tickets and hospitality for Prem cup vs. Probably 500 for a  champ cup fixture. If I estimate £25 per head on average (ticket, bar takings), then that is am extra £62.5k of revenue for Pirates that has cost the RFU and PRL nothing. I approve.


Posted By: BigChief
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2024 at 17:16
Alas Scots don't have full use of the RAG (being tenants) but should be a decent enough crowd to bring in some income.
Richmond have opened up a 'pre match hospitality venture' for England matches, which is a good move for them and should generate some ££
(I just hope our London Scottish Piper doesn't drown out any speakers or cause too much of a distraction for those attending on Saturday Wink)

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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2024 at 21:44
Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Originally posted by BigChief BigChief wrote:

Originally posted by JZSmith JZSmith wrote:

Quins v Quins should be a classic!

As will; Gloss' v Gloss' and Chiefs v Chiefs
I'm sure

LOL

Chiefs vs. Pirates is a sellout. So that is 3000 tickets and hospitality for Prem cup vs. Probably 500 for a  champ cup fixture. If I estimate £25 per head on average (ticket, bar takings), then that is am extra £62.5k of revenue for Pirates that has cost the RFU and PRL nothing. I approve.

these calculations are interesting Gerg, & could prove useful for Cambridge & Chinnor in pursuing their claims for compensation...


Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2024 at 22:09
Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Originally posted by BigChief BigChief wrote:

Originally posted by JZSmith JZSmith wrote:

Quins v Quins should be a classic!

As will; Gloss' v Gloss' and Chiefs v Chiefs
I'm sure

LOL

Chiefs vs. Pirates is a sellout. So that is 3000 tickets and hospitality for Prem cup vs. Probably 500 for a  champ cup fixture. If I estimate £25 per head on average (ticket, bar takings), then that is am extra £62.5k of revenue for Pirates that has cost the RFU and PRL nothing. I approve.

these calculations are interesting Gerg, & could prove useful for Cambridge & Chinnor in pursuing their claims for compensation...

They are probably a bit conservative to be honest, but I didn't want to get into too much detail today as I am legally non compos mentis for the next 12 hours due to surgery.


Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2024 at 12:28

Ealing Trailfinders to face Saracens:

Strong side, probably the best Ealing can put out, though I was hopeful we might see Simon Uzokwe and Bobby DeWee after they played in the friendly last week as part of recovery

  1. Kyle Whyte
  2. Mike Willemse
  3. Biyi Alo
  4. David Douglas Bridge
  5. Danny Cutmore
  6. Rob Farrar (c)
  7. Jordy Reid
  8. Will Montgomery
  9. Craig Hampson
  10. Dan Jones
  11. Tom Collins
  12. Jordan Holgate
  13. Reuben Bird-Tulloch
  14. Angus Kernohan
  15. Tobi Wilson
  16. Matt Cornish
  17. Lefty Zigiriadis
  18. George Davis
  19. Sean Lonsdale
  20. Rayn Smid
  21. Lloyd Williams
  22. Craig Willis
  23. Francis Moore


Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2024 at 12:33
Saracens Men team to play Ealing Trailfinders: Very beatable team. I would be surprised not to win this (famous last words).

1 Phil Brantingham
2 Kapeli Pifeleti
3 Fraser Balmain
4 Harry Wilson
5 Olamide Sodeke
6 Max Eke
7 Toby Knight
8 Nathan Michelow (c)
9 Charlie Bracken
10 Tim Swiel
11 Brandon Jackson
12 Josh Hallett
13 Sam Spink
14 Angus Hall
15 Tom Parton

Replacements:

16 James Hadfield
17 Sam Crean
18 Ollie Hoskins
19 Kennedy Sylvester
20 Izaiha Moore-Aiono
21 Callum Braley
22 Max Clark
23 Jack Bracken


Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2024 at 15:34
Originally posted by BigChief BigChief wrote:

Alas Scots don't have full use of the RAG (being tenants) but should be a decent enough crowd to bring in some income.
Richmond have opened up a 'pre match hospitality venture' for England matches, which is a good move for them and should generate some ££
(I just hope our London Scottish Piper doesn't drown out any speakers or cause too much of a distraction for those attending on Saturday Wink)

Weird that LS v Quins game is Sat, 2pm, 70 mins b4 the ENG/NZ game down the road at 'Ally Pally' kicks off. I guess Friday may have been out as Quins played the previous Sunday, and Sunday as they play the following Friday, but you'd think an early or late KO might have resulted in a few more attendees...


Posted By: BigChief
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2024 at 16:20
Timings do seem rather odd.
Its certainly going to be a busy day at the RAG !


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Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2024 at 17:48
Are any of the games being live streamed anywhere ?


Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2024 at 18:06
Originally posted by fatbear fatbear wrote:

Are any of the games being live streamed anywhere ?


Not allowed by the 'R F U' they have said 'F U' to the competition

Otherwise Pirates v Chiefs would have had a few thousand viewers


Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2024 at 18:30
I believe a game is on Discovery TV, you can guess which.


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Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2024 at 18:31
Originally posted by Geoff DC Geoff DC wrote:

Originally posted by fatbear fatbear wrote:

Are any of the games being live streamed anywhere ?


Not allowed by the 'R F U' they have said 'F U' to the competition

Otherwise Pirates v Chiefs would have had a few thousand viewers
 
Shocking, but hardly surprising given the RFU's running of the competition




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