Regional 1 South East
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Topic: Regional 1 South East
Posted By: rugbynerd65
Subject: Regional 1 South East
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2023 at 13:04
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Prediction time Games this week are as follows: Letchworth vs Colchester Old Northamptonians vs Harpenden Shelford vs Tring Rochford vs Hertford Sudbury vs Oundle Westcliff vs Bedford Athletic |
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Posted By: rugbynerd65
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2023 at 13:18
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Letchworth vs Colchester (Letchworth 0-5 Colchester) Old Northamptonians vs Harpenden (Old Northamptonians 1-4 Harpenden) Shelford vs Tring (Shelford 4-1 Tring) Rochford vs Hertford (Rochford 5-0 Hertford) Sudbury vs Oundle (Sudbury 4-1 Oundle) Westcliff vs Bedford Athletic (Westcliff 0-5 Bedford Athletic)
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Posted By: Nat3Supporter
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2023 at 13:45
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Great work for setting this back up "rugbynerd65": I am not associated to a club, I just enjoy watching this level of rugby and live in the south east and travel to different games each week - going to go to Letchworth vs Colchester this week. Letchworth vs Colchester: (Letchworth 0 - 5 Colchester) Letchworth are very much looking like the Chelsea of Regional 1 SE from early showing, spending a lot of money for little returns. Their only win coming to what looks like a struggling Westcliff outfit. Colchester continuing their form from last year and look strong again. I can only see this going one way. Old Northamptonians vs Harpenden (Old Northamptonians 1-4) Tough one to call this, just going with Harpenden as they have probably had the slightly better results, however whispers of them losing some of there better players, could this explain the drumming from Sudbury? Time will tell. Old Northamptonians are very much an unknown quantity. Would be interested to hear from anyone who has seen them play. This secrecy around them could mean that they surprise a few teams. Shelford vs Tring (Shelford 1-4 Tring) Tring had a wobble first week vs Oundle, but have recovered well beating Rochford away and then local rivals Hertford at home convincingly (Apparently early red for Tring aswell?). However looking at squad lists they may have lost some players as they have a traditional 2XV back 3 (could also be injuries?). Shelford are always a solid team whenever I watch them and they took Colchester close week 2, so this promises to be probably pick of the games. I am going Tring, as they are always a tough outfit with an exceptional kicker that rarely misses and I predict this to be close. Rochford vs Hertford (Rochford 5-0 Hertford) Rochford me in this match up, I watched Hertford week 1 vs Colchester and they are a shell of the side they used to be, seems like they have potentially run out of money? Lots of youngsters so could grow as the season goes on but need to get a lot more battle hardened. However if the rumours of 14 men for Tring last week are true, that loss to Tring would have hurt even more than normal so a reaction could be on the cards. Rochford have had some good results and them being at home means I can't look anywhere over than a BP win. Sudbury vs Oundle (Sudbury 4 - 1 Oundle) Another tough call, but Sudbury to edge it for me, seem to have taken a beating from Colchester last week, so will be looking to bounce back, however they had a very good result against Harpenden early on. Could they be the France of old of Regional 1 SE? Oundle's results have dropped off after a great result week 1, I have heard their 12 is a class operator and can be the difference. Has he been playing? However head is saying Sudbury. Westcliff vs Bedford Athletic (Westcliff 0-5 Bedford Athletic) Westcliff seem to be really struggling so far, with a loss in the local derby to Rochford they will be hurting even more. They need to start finding some points from somewhere as the rest of the pack could get to far ahead early on. Bedford Ath have been unlucky to just lose in a couple of games but a great result against Letchworth. I think Bedford Ath will have fire in their bellies to climb the table and will get the BP win.
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Posted By: TringRanger
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2023 at 13:59
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Letchworth vs Colchester (Letchworth 0-5 Colchester) Old Northamptonians vs Harpenden (Old Northamptonaians 5-0 Harpenden) Shelford vs Tring (Shelford 0-5 Tring) Rochford vs Hertford (Rochford 5-0 Hertford) Sudbury vs Oundle (Sudbury 1-4 Oundle) Westcliff vs Bedford Athletic (Westcliff 1-4 Bedford Athletic)
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Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2023 at 14:01
| I think my tip regarding Old Northamptonians is to call them ONs at every opportunity and save yourself typing time. |
Posted By: clieves
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2023 at 15:10
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I've watched ON's a lot over the past couple of seasons. In the league below their back division ripped teams to shreds but their pack struggled against bigger sides. This season they have beefed up their pack significantly and have lost none of the pace and youthful exuberence of their back division. Joe Heslop, their captain and talisman has missed the start of the season, still recovering from the ankle injury sustained when they beat Horsham in the final of the Papa Johns. They were disappointed to lose at home to Rochford, beat Westcliffe convincingly and won at Bedford Athletic with the last play of the game. Having only lost one or two games last seaosn, they are a confident team !
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Posted By: Thunderpants
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2023 at 20:27
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Great work Rugbynerd65 Yes, Tring did have an early yellow Letchworth vs Colchester 0-5 Old Northamptonians vs Harpenden 5-0 Shelford vs Tring 1-4 Rochford vs Hertford 5-1 Sudbury vs Oundle 2-4 Westcliff vs Bedford Athletic 0-5
------------- It really was from the 22.... |
Posted By: invincible71
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2023 at 10:48
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Thanks for setting up RugbyNerd65 Hertford fan here, sad to say Tring did indeed get an early red. However credit to them, played a great game of rugby and have really developed from last year. They've always had a great pack that do set piece well, but their attack seems to have come on with a really strong 8-9-10-12-15 axis if they can keep them fit they will do well. Extra special mention to their 12 he is special! As for Hertford, yes we have a younger team and have cleared out a lot of our old guard and are trying to create a lot more of our own home grown talent, Some very talented rugby players in the squad and I think as the season grows we will come into our own, some injuries haven't helped either. Look forward to welcoming the Tring faithful to Hoe Lane in December. Predictions: Letchworth vs Colchester 0-5 Old Northamptonians vs Harpenden 5-0 Shelford vs Tring 1-5 Rochford vs Hertford 0-5 Sudbury vs Oundle 4-1 Westcliff vs Bedford Athletic 0-5 |
Posted By: Thunderpants
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2023 at 12:13
Ollie(the 12) is one of those home grown gems we all love to have. ------------- It really was from the 22.... |
Posted By: Archangel
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2023 at 15:20
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and the Ath Ath! ------------- Too old but young enough to learn |
Posted By: Archangel
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2023 at 15:38
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All very true, this looks to be a really competitive league with some great clubs, with Colchester an obvious early season favourite for the title. ONs are a young mostly home grown side so very tightly knit and don't want to know or accept when they are beaten - Saturday vs a well drilled, big Harpenden outfit a great example; 13-22 probably the right result but with another 5 minutes ONs could have nicked it (before sir called it after 42 minutes!). They will get better as season progresses especially when the players out return (but bet all sides can say the same). ------------- Too old but young enough to learn |
Posted By: carlos fandango
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2023 at 16:02
If only Hertford started matches like we finish them. One day someone is going to be on the receiving end....
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Posted By: Thunderpants
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2023 at 07:17
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https://www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/search-results?competition=261&season=2023-2024&team=1822#table" rel="nofollow - Bedford Athletic https://www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/match-centre-community?matchId=1056044" rel="nofollow - V https://www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/search-results?competition=261&season=2023-2024&team=17906#table" rel="nofollow - Rochford Hundred https://www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/search-results?competition=261&season=2023-2024&team=9448#table" rel="nofollow - Harpenden https://www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/match-centre-community?matchId=1056045" rel="nofollow - V https://www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/search-results?competition=261&season=2023-2024&team=24949#table" rel="nofollow - Westcliff https://www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/search-results?competition=261&season=2023-2024&team=10046#table" rel="nofollow - Hertford https://www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/match-centre-community?matchId=1056049" rel="nofollow - V https://www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/search-results?competition=261&season=2023-2024&team=19141#table" rel="nofollow - Shelford https://www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/search-results?competition=261&season=2023-2024&team=23148#table" rel="nofollow - Tring https://www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/match-centre-community?matchId=1056048" rel="nofollow - V https://www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/search-results?competition=261&season=2023-2024&team=21299#table" rel="nofollow - Sudbury https://www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/search-results?competition=261&season=2023-2024&team=16352#table" rel="nofollow - Oundle V https://www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/search-results?competition=261&season=2023-2024&team=12182#table" rel="nofollow - Letchworth Garden City https://www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/search-results?competition=261&season=2023-2024&team=5386#table" rel="nofollow - Colchester V https://www.englandrugby.com/fixtures-and-results/search-results?competition=261&season=2023-2024&team=15843#table" rel="nofollow - Old Northamptonians ------------- It really was from the 22.... |
Posted By: Thunderpants
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2023 at 07:22
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Bedford A v RH 1-4 Harps v Westcliff 5-0 Hertford v Shelford 1-4 Tring v Sudbury 5-0 Oundle v Letchworth 0-5 Colchester v O N 4-1 ------------- It really was from the 22.... |
Posted By: Thelazy8!
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2023 at 09:16
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Late to the party but to answer your question if Hertford have potentially run out of money, the answer is No. Some course changes over the last couple of years resulted in some reflection on where we want to be, why, and what do want when we get there. Time will tell if we we made the right choices but generally the reaction from members and players alike is overwhelmingly positive with 9 or 10 young 'homegrowns' in the 1s each week. Pre match lunches are pretty much sold out for 160 every home game with two requiring additional marquees in the car park making it well over 200 diners (and drinkers) We are spending the same on the squad overall but supporting the wider squad with lesser focus on just the 18 shirts on a Saturday. Can all clubs do it this way? No. Will we always be able to do it this way? Probably not. Does it mean we are not open to players from elsewhere? Of course not. We belive we have young talent at the moment who can play at this level and that they will grow together. and attendences show the wider club, despite results not as good as previous years, support the strategy. As we all know, and has been painfully demonstrated again this week, a sustainable business model is vital for any club to thrive at any level. So, in short, no major money worries, ambition in a sustainable way and you're all welcome to 'The Lane' to boost the bar receipts. I hope this answers the question. " Mines a Guinness, Cheers"
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Posted By: HAVANT TONY
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2023 at 10:01
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The lazy 8 Great Post had some very good grub at Hertford on our visits there and good to hear the place is buzzing...hope the Jamie George stand is up to all those extra diners and drinkers😁
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Posted By: Archangel
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2023 at 12:30
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Never doubted it, great to hear looking ahead in "the right way", look forward to seeing you 04/11! ------------- Too old but young enough to learn |
Posted By: kempstonblue
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2023 at 17:26
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Oh my heart, Bedford Ath today. Breathless. Hoping i remember it right. 45-28. ------------- The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused. |
Posted By: kempstonblue
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2023 at 16:44
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Congratulations Bedford Ath, yesterday playing their 3,000th first team match. Also thanks Harpenden making it a good match to the end. ------------- The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused. |
Posted By: Nat3Supporter
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2023 at 16:56
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Harpenden V Rochford Hundred Hertford V Letchworth Garden City Shelford V Sudbury Tring v ON's Oundle V Westcliff Colchester V Bedford Athletic
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Posted By: Nat3Supporter
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2023 at 17:05
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Sorry I have been quiet, had a busy few weeks. Harpenden V Rochford Hundred Hertford V Letchworth Garden City Shelford V Sudbury Tring v ON's Oundle V Westcliff Colchester V Bedford Athletic Some shock results of late, would be good to get peoples take on the teams they have watched. I watched Letchworth V Tring this weekend.Great game of rugby, Tring should have stole it at the end just a mindless offload after a great break. Tring had a fair few changes to their usual pack. I think Tring didn't look like the Tring I have seen in the past, they were not their usual hard nosed clinical selves. Letchworth looked ever improving and are beginning to click. Few standouts from the game were Letchworth's 7 & 13, and Tring's 6 & 9. |
Posted By: carlos fandango
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2023 at 15:20
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This league is ridiculously even going into Xmas. Really is a case of anyone can beat anyone. This goes all the way to last day I reckon. Happy Christmas all.
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Posted By: Thunderpants
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2023 at 19:25
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Good atmosphere at yours yesterday, i bet your treasurer is a happy bunny today! Good performance from your lads. ------------- It really was from the 22.... |
Posted By: Archangel
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2023 at 10:19
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If you like your stats: 12 points between 1st & 2nd 12 points between 2nd & 9th 12 points between 9th & 12th No other L5 league is anything like as close. Half the clubs have games in hand vs others (or one less rest week to look at it another way!) As you say 'Carlos' anybody can beat anybody so the table can change week to week, with 9/10 games to go those bonus points are going to be even more valuable, as well as depth of squads ------------- Too old but young enough to learn |
Posted By: carlos fandango
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2023 at 18:19
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300 odd for lunch I heard. Sadly I couldn't make it but always nice to get one over on you guys |
Posted By: WhoknowsEAST
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2024 at 20:59
| NW look like they are ending the season in Nat2 well..... Wouldn't be surprised if they come back fighting next year..... |
Posted By: carlos fandango
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2024 at 12:12
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So that's that then. Predictions of a tight end to the season were way wide of the mark like most of my efforts. Congratulations Colchester, commiserations Westcliff and Rochford. Now everyone else is safe, do we start to see old hands being rested and youngsters given a go?
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Posted By: Archangel
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2024 at 16:04
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Picked up so many knocks and injuries it's last man standing .... however old! Now where where did she hide those boots? ------------- Too old but young enough to learn |
Posted By: Thunderpants
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2024 at 21:13
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All a bit quiet on here this season, thoughts on first 3 games and this weekends? ------------- It really was from the 22.... |
Posted By: carlos fandango
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2024 at 16:35
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Looks like the league is already starting to divide into 3. Those that splashed some cash (if you haven't seen Oundle yet, watch out), those that will have to fight to stay up (what happened to Harpenden over the summer), and those that will be somewhere in the middle. Not sure which of the second two we fall into yet.
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Posted By: Thunderpants
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2024 at 21:09
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Certainly looks that way, though as i'm sure you know ,we don't fall into the 'slashing' category!!! Will know more of where we are after a tuff test tomorrow, hope you go well up in the floods! No, not seen them yet, heard a few rumours through. Harpenden ,no idea, bit of a surprise so far. ------------- It really was from the 22.... |
Posted By: Greg
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2024 at 13:53
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Sadly North Walsham are not enjoying life in Level 5 (Regional One South East) and current lay 11th (out of 12) as we come to the half way point. They look well off the pace and will do well to stay in this league this season. However, 8 miles south, Norwich RUFC are ripping up the turf in Counties 1 Eastern Counties | London & SE Division and are unbeaten in 13 games, with a 15 point lead over second placed Ipswich. It is not inconceivable that these two Norfolk clubs could be in the same league in a season or two.
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2024 at 16:03
I remember in the 70s, when playing for Cambridge, that these three along with Holt, Chelmsford, Cantabs, Shelford and Colchester were very difficult fixtures. How times change. ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
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