Round 4 Fixtures, Predictions & News
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Topic: Round 4 Fixtures, Predictions & News
Posted By: corporalcarrot
Subject: Round 4 Fixtures, Predictions & News
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2023 at 09:20
Pool A Archers 4-1 Pury - Two well matched teams could go either way Jersey 4-1 Trailfinders Both sides have key plays unavailable but if the sun shines could be a good contest as both will want a semi final place
Pool B Blues 5-0 McQuins Home advantage should be enough, but Exiles wont be bothered about the cup Cov 1-5 Donny Both sides likely to rest players but Donny will target a semi final home fixture
Pool C Pirates 5-1 Mond Pirates to secure a home semi final in this one Amps 4-1 Ravers Home advantage should be enough for the Mob
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Posted By: Runitback
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2023 at 10:50
Pool A Archers 4-1 Pury - Nottingham home win Jersey 4-1 Trailfinders - Ealing will rest many players . . bigger fish to fry and they need a reset!!!
Pool B Blues 5-0 McQuins Home advantage should be enough, but Exiles wont be bothered about the cup -AGREED Cov 5-0 Donny -Good things happening at Cov Pool C Pirates 5- 0 Mond - - Richmond seconds/thirds Amps 5-0 Ravers - Caldy to give the big lads a rest.
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Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2023 at 20:01
The dreaded cup completion returns. Predictions become pot luck as no one knows which sides will take these games more seriously than a preseason warm up with coaches experimenting with players. The only way to set about this is to treat the fixtures as league fixtures, so, on that basis:
Nottingham 0-4 Hartpury. Hartpury are in a rich vein of form and should register the win here. Jersey 5-2 Ealing. Recent form sees me abandoning my usual 5-0 prediction in Ealing’s favour. Bedford 5-0 London Scottish. Bedford at Goldington Road, back from the harsh northern conditions, should pull away from LS as the second half progresses. Coventry 5-0 Doncaster. Coventry are currently playing very well, home and away. Cornish Pirates 5-0 Richmond. It could be a very long day for Richmond. Ampthill 5-2 Caldy. The battle of the so called minions. And although Caldy are on a dream run, Ampthill’s form is also growing each week. The As to win a high scoring game.
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2023 at 07:04
My guesses:
Pool AArchers 5 - 2 Pury Jersey 5 - 2 Trailfinders
Pool B Blues 5 - 1 London Scottish Cov 4 - 1 Knights
Pool C Pirates 4 - 1 Richmond Amps 5 - 2 Caldy
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Posted By: *Stalwart
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2023 at 14:08
Pool A Archers 4 - 1 Hartpury Jersey 1 - 4 Trailfinders
Pool B Blues 5 - 0 London Scottish Cov 4 - 1 Knights
Pool C Pirates 5 - 0 Richmond Amps 5 - 2 Caldy
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Posted By: Old Gold
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2023 at 15:28
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Pool ANottingham 4 - 1 Hartpury Jersey 1 - 4 Ealing
Pool B Bedford 5 - 0 London Scottish Coventry 4 - 1 Doncaster
Pool C Pirates 5 - 0 Richmond Ampthill 5 - 2 Caldy | |
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Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2023 at 21:05
Pool A Nottingham 5 - 0 Hartpury … Nottingham need something to get their season going again and a home tie in the cup be just what they need. Jersey 4 - 1 Trailfinders … Ealing have a few players that they may need to rest as well as a few injury concerns. Jersey are in a similar boat, but the desire to push for a semi final spot and the need to break their voodoo run against ET may be the difference. It will be tight though.
Pool B Bedford 5 - 0 London Scottish … I would be surprised if the PL outfits will be too keen to loan players out for this competition. Training session for the Blues backs. Cov 5 - 0 Donny … Knights won’t like the plastic. Comfortable home win.
Pool C CP 5 - 0 Richmond … A very long trip for Mond. This may suit the Pirates youngsters. Ampthill 5 - 2 Caldy … Barbarian rugby on show in this game. Ampthill to win it by a score in a 70 point thriller
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Posted By: greenpower
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2023 at 21:31
nottingham 4 1 hartpury jersey 4 1 ealing
bedford 5 0 london scottish coventry 5 0 doncaster
pirates 5 0 richmond ampthill 5 1 caldy
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Posted By: BigChief
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2023 at 13:10
Pool A Nottingham 5 - 1 Hartpury Jersey 4 - 1 Ealing Pool B Bedford 5 - 0 London Scottish Coventry 5 - 0 Doncaster Pool C Cornish Pirates 5 - 0 Richmond Ampthill 1 - 5 Caldy
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Posted By: Donnyknightfan
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 07:51
Pool A: Nottingham 4 - 1 Hartpury Jersey 5 - 1 Ealing
Pool B: Bedford 5 - 0 London Scottish Coventry 5 - 0 Doncaster
Pool C: Cornish Pirates 5 - 0 Richmond Ampthill 4 - 1 Caldy
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 16:06
Just inquiring into how reliant Bedford are on the Saints boys, I seem to remember a year or so ago they had about 10 dr/loans announced
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Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 22:08
Reminder for any Doncaster supporters travelling to Coventry. Kickoff is 2.30 rather than 3.00 die to 6N coverage afterwards.
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Posted By: All the Way
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 07:33
Nottingham 5 - 2 Hartpury
Jersey 5 - 2 Trailfinders Blues 5 - 1 LS Cov 4 - 1 Knights Pirates 4 - 1 'ond Amps 5 - 2 Caldy
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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 11:18
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Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 12:30
Jersey taking this one seriously, as you’d expect. Apart from the Ealing rivalry, they know that defeat would mean that any chance of making it to the semi final stage would be in the hands of others. Could be a stormer this.
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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 13:03
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 13:04
Ealing Trailfinders team to face Jersey Reds: Quite a strong side here, with Tizanno, De Wee (carded) and Holmes being the only nailed on starters sitting this one out. I like seeing JCR back in the squad, and Alun Walker returns from a short term loan with Newcastle to pack down at Hooker. I honestly thought that Ealing might be best served by tanking the cup and getting healthy - last week they had to bring a Hooker who was injured back onto the field after the replacement was even more badly injured, and we have three fly halves in the squad due to lack of centres. 15. Max Bodilly 14. Nathan Earle 13. Reuben Bird-Tulloch 12. Peter Robb 11. James Cordy-Redden 10. Craig Willis 9. Craig Hampson 1. James Gibbons 2. Alun Walker 3. George Davis 4. Will Montgomery 5. Simon Linsell 6. Rob Farrar (C) 7. Simon Uzokwe 8. David Douglas Bridge Replacements: 16. Kevin O’Byrne 17. Will Davis 18. Ross Kane 19. Ollie Newman 20. Jack Digby 21. Jordan Burns 22. Dan Lancaster 23. Steven Shingler
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Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 14:23
"Predictions become pot luck as no one knows which sides will take these games more seriously than a preseason warm up with coaches experimenting with players"
This is what I said before making my predictions for this week's cup games. Looking at both the Ampthill and Caldy websites, I see both sides are making ELEVEN changes from last week's sides. I know many of you disagree with my view of this cup competition, but I personally think it sucks and merely serves as a fixture filler because there are too few teams in this league.
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Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 14:52
Cherub wrote:
"Predictions become pot luck as no one knows which sides will take these games more seriously than a preseason warm up with coaches experimenting with players"
This is what I said before making my predictions for this week's cup games. Looking at both the Ampthill and Caldy websites, I see both sides are making ELEVEN changes from last week's sides. I know many of you disagree with my view of this cup competition, but I personally think it sucks and merely serves as a fixture filler because there are too few teams in this league. | I don’t disagree with your sentiment Cherub, but think that it is more about risk/reward. All teams will take the games seriously as the players have too much pride not to. However, squads will be rotated for a number of reasons, but on the whole, if you go out of the cup, then there is always next season. If you are relegated because of a string of injuries caused by over playing or directly from said cup games, well that is a very bitter pill to swallow. Some teams want to win this competition and I include my side in this as well as our opponents tomorrow. I am in no position to speak for the other clubs. I still think that there will be some serious entertainment out there this week, regardless of who makes the starting XV’s
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 15:17
Cherub wrote:
"Predictions become pot luck as no one knows which sides will take these games more seriously than a preseason warm up with coaches experimenting with players"
This is what I said before making my predictions for this week's cup games. Looking at both the Ampthill and Caldy websites, I see both sides are making ELEVEN changes from last week's sides. I know many of you disagree with my view of this cup competition, but I personally think it sucks and merely serves as a fixture filler because there are too few teams in this league. |
Cov have certainly taken the experimental approach, with a raft of younger and more 'fringe' players in the starting lineup. There are a few more experienced individuals on the bench though, although there would appear to be an acute shortage of locks at the mo... It'll be interesting to see how they front up with nothing (much) to lose. https://www.coventryrugby.co.uk/team-news-coventry-vs-doncaster-knights-3/" rel="nofollow - https://www.coventryrugby.co.uk/team-news-coventry-vs-doncaster-knights-3/
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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 19:28
https://express.adobe.com/page/cizvSFAdv5R0X/" rel="nofollow - Jersey Reds v Ealing Trailfinders (adobe.com)
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 20:40
HT scores: Nott 10 Hart 7; Blues v Scots 12-all
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 22:07
islander wrote:
HT scores: Nott 10 Hart 7; Blues v Scots 12-all |
FTs: Nott got a BP in winning 24-12; Blues put their foot down to win 38-17
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 22:49
Nottingham n/a Hartpury - Late making predictions. Oops. Jersey 5 - 2 Trailfinders - Ealing very out of sorts. Blues n/a LS - Late Cov 4 - 1 Knights - Cov were virtually flawless last week. Pirates 4 - 1 'ond - Mond likely to play 2nd squad Amps 5 - 2 Caldy
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Posted By: Cricks at 2
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 08:24
KnightsBoy wrote:
Just inquiring into how reliant Bedford are on the Saints boys, I seem to remember a year or so ago they had about 10 dr/loans announced | Hi KB, well our style of play has not been affected, to the appreciation (and insistence) of the Blues fans. There are regular changes to the line up and as a long time supporter, I find it difficult to name the player on sight at times. There is a large main core of Blues players, in fact the starting 15 at Caldy were all Blues. Last night V Scottish there were Saints players e.g. the Grayson brothers, Tom Litchfield, Joel Matavesi. However that is rare to see as many. As with our link up with Saracens years ago, a player can get pulled out at short notice which is a bit of a pain. Some great tries last night and despite it being a dying rubber the atmosphere was electric.
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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 08:59
gerg_861 wrote:
Ealing Trailfinders team to face Jersey Reds: Quite a strong side here, with Tizanno, De Wee (carded) and Holmes being the only nailed on starters sitting this one out.
| Are Smid, Thiede & Howard unavailable?
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Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 09:28
Fair play to Bedford. That is 8 out of 8 home wins for them in all competitions this season. The only dropped point was at home to Coventry in the cup.
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 14:50
HT at the Stade, Reds lead 21-7 - was 21-zip until a 39th min YC to Sean O'Connor for something illegal in a ruck and ET worked an attacking LO & mauled try to claw back some pts. They'd started strongly but couldn't score, then Reds in ascendance from 15-min mark.
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Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 14:52
islander wrote:
HT at the Stade, Reds lead 21-7 - was 21-zip until a 39th min YC to Sean O'Connor for something illegal in a ruck and ET worked an attacking LO & mauled try to claw back some pts. They'd started strongly but couldn't score, then Reds in ascendance from 15-min mark. | Was it not for the deliberate k/o Islander? Or was it a seperate offense?
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Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 15:04
Half time Ampthill 31-12 Caldy
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Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 15:13
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 15:22
HT Cov 28-7 Doncaster Donny started brightly taking a 7-0 lead. Cov made lots of errors early on, but grew into it and responded with four including a PT. Poor attendance, but not surprising given the circs.
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 15:57
Jersey 28 Ealing Trailfinders 27.
I followed the game on Twitter and read like an exceptional game and contest. Well done Jersey.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 16:03
35-12 Cov with 10 tob play. 1781 att.
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Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 16:04
Full time Ampthill 31-26 Caldy. Phew .
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 16:17
42-12 FT at Cov. 5-0
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Posted By: Isithalftimeyet
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 16:18
Brizzer wrote:
islander wrote:
HT at the Stade, Reds lead 21-7 - was 21-zip until a 39th min YC to Sean O'Connor for something illegal in a ruck and ET worked an attacking LO & mauled try to claw back some pts. They'd started strongly but couldn't score, then Reds in ascendance from 15-min mark. | Was it not for the deliberate k/o Islander? Or was it a seperate offense? |
I think it was the ruck. The knock on was an advantage but whatever happened in the ruck resulted in the YC I think.
Cracking game from both teams who were both really going for it and it could have gone either way.
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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 16:32
No 7 wrote:
Jersey 28 Ealing Trailfinders 27.
I followed the game on Twitter and read like an exceptional game and contest. Well done Jersey. | With ET missing a conversion to win it at the end it could not have been closer. ET still top the group but both teams will have a good chance of making the semi finals. Great entertainment and a few cracking tries for each team. Let's hope the game in April is just as good.
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Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 18:17
corporalcarrot wrote:
No 7 wrote:
Jersey 28 Ealing Trailfinders 27.
I followed the game on Twitter and read like an exceptional game and contest. Well done Jersey. | With ET missing a conversion to win it at the end it could not have been closer. ET still top the group but both teams will have a good chance of making the semi finals. Great entertainment and a few cracking tries for each team. Let's hope the game in April is just as good. | For me the result is just as the ET third try came from a clear push on the original high ball. Apparently the Lino called it but the ref didn’t hear the call. Don’t get me wrong. This was a fantastic game of rugby played at the highest standard. Seriously good game. Oh! And there were a few try of the season contenders. For me, Jersey’s third gets it
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Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 19:09
Was the Ealing Supporter there Brizzer ??
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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 19:45
Geoff DC wrote:
Was the Ealing Supporter there Brizzer ?? | I'm sure they were well represented "upstairs" with the proper people but there was also a really good bunch in the corner by the big screen.
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 20:19
KnightsBoy wrote:
Just inquiring into how reliant Bedford are on the Saints boys, I seem to remember a year or so ago they had about 10 dr/loans announced |
Blues generally have up to 5 Saints players in a squad, but most of those players are season long loans rather than dropped in last minute. At least 2 have ended up injured playing for us.
Last night I think we were giving the Blues 1st team players a rest and gave game time to fringe and 11 young Saints in total. Even though it
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 20:21
So, the standings with 2 matches each to play:
A: ET 16, Jsy 15, Nott 6, Hart 6
B: Pirates 20, Amps 11, Ravers 6, Mond 5
C: Donny 15, Cov 11, Blues 9, LS 5
Pool C is tight - might come down to BPs and even pts diff
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Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 20:21
corporalcarrot wrote:
Geoff DC wrote:
Was the Ealing Supporter there Brizzer ?? | I'm sure they were well represented "upstairs" with the proper people but there was also a really good bunch in the corner by the big screen. | Yes. There were a few and I hope that they have enjoyed a true Jersey weekend. We don’t care on the numbers, everyone is welcome!!
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 20:27
Answered my own question!
So top 2 of each group and best 2 3rd places go through.
Ealing, Jersey, Pirates and Knights have probably all done enough already.
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 21:37
The Blues wrote:
Answered my own question!
So top 2 of each group and best 2 3rd places go through.
Ealing, Jersey, Pirates and Knights have probably all done enough already.
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No TB - only 4 qualify for SFs on 1st w/e May: pool winners + best-placed runner-up
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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2023 at 07:47
islander wrote:
The Blues wrote:
Answered my own question!
So top 2 of each group and best 2 3rd places go through.
Ealing, Jersey, Pirates and Knights have probably all done enough already.
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No TB - only 4 qualify for SFs on 1st w/e May: pool winners + best-placed runner-up | So if both Ealing & Jersey qualify for the Semi Finals do they play each other again at that stage for a place in the final or do they play the other qualifiers?
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2023 at 08:12
corporalcarrot wrote:
islander wrote:
The Blues wrote:
Answered my own question!
So top 2 of each group and best 2 3rd places go through.
Ealing, Jersey, Pirates and Knights have probably all done enough already.
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No TB - only 4 qualify for SFs on 1st w/e May: pool winners + best-placed runner-up | So if both Ealing & Jersey qualify for the Semi Finals do they play each other again at that stage for a place in the final or do they play the other qualifiers? |
CC I'm sure you realise that the SF qualifiers aren't yet confirmed, let alone how the four of them will be paired. The regs indicate 1st v 4th and 2nd v 3rd, although there have been adjustments in previous years to keep pool rivals apart in such situations.
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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2023 at 14:54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_OOo4MFB5U" rel="nofollow - Ben Woollett try v Ealing - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5y3BmWYhS8" rel="nofollow - Dan Barnes touches down for the winning score v Ealing today in the Championship Cup - YouTube
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2023 at 17:47
islander wrote:
The Blues wrote:
Answered my own question!
So top 2 of each group and best 2 3rd places go through.
Ealing, Jersey, Pirates and Knights have probably all done enough already.
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No TB - only 4 qualify for SFs on 1st w/e May: pool winners + best-placed runner-up |
Thank you for the correction. Blues need 2 wins then against Cov and Knights to stand a chance and probably a bit of help from Scottish.
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Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2023 at 12:34
At the moment you would expect the best 2nd placed team to come from Pool 1, however, one slip up by either Ealing or Jersey will open the door to a host of other teams. Cov will still have eyes on winning the group in Pool 2, but will need some help along the way. In Pool 3 Pirates have 1 foot I. The semis, but The Mob could be the team to benefit should either of the top 2 in P1 slip up. Being realistic, there are currently 8 teams I. The mix for 4 semi slots…. All still to play for
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Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2023 at 12:42
No 7 wrote:
Jersey 28 Ealing Trailfinders 27.
I followed the game on Twitter and read like an exceptional game and contest. Well done Jersey. | Mate, you missed an absolute belter. Very high standard from both teams. Jersey were in scoreboard control in the first half, but the Jersey YC just before HT gave Ealing a toe back in the game and boy did they make Jersey pay with scores either side of HT. The officiating was of a very high standard as well, although I would love to ask ‘sir’ why he didn’t issue a second YC for repeated infringements close to the Ealing line having already given one following a warning. He went for a second warning instead. The game was probably better for only the 1, but it still doesn’t necessarily make it right. Anyway, I can’t wait for the league game. The league may have been decided by then, but it will be an occasion nevertheless
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