2020/21 Season Start
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Topic: 2020/21 Season Start
Posted By: stonehousealbion
Subject: 2020/21 Season Start
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 23:10
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Seen on Nat 1 https://twitter.com/national1_rugby/status/1309217959110414342" rel="nofollow - Twitter with no further detail. It'll be lonely this Christmas... ------------- Come cheer up, my lads - 'tis to glory we steer! |
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 23:12
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Not in the least surprised.
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Posted By: Fudgepacker
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 23:27
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It will be September 2021 (at the earliest). We should all plan for that eventuality. |
Posted By: Moseley Mauler
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2020 at 11:17
I agree
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Fudgepacker wrote:Posted By: Bill Sley
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2020 at 05:41
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NCA Chairman John Inverdale provides update on plans for 2020/21 season https://www.ncarugby.com/national-1/nca-update-on-plans-for-2020-21-season/" rel="nofollow - https://www.ncarugby.com/national-1/nca-update-on-plans-for-2020-21-season/
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Posted By: workerbee
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2020 at 10:57
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There are problems with both options 15 game season or a 15 + 7 game season if you include promotion and relegation. 1. With the 15 game season this gives those teams with 8 home and 7 away a big advantage over the teams with 7 home and 8 away. 2. With the second option the teams play the 15 scheduled games then spilt into top 8 and bottom 8 to play off for promotion and relegation. However the matches in the pool games could be completly skewed , it is statistically possible for a team to win all its 7 home games and finish up in a pool with all the teams they played at home which would mean that all their games in the Pool would be away. So effectively they would play a season with 7 home games and 15 away. Other possibilities are 6-1 , 5-2 both would be detrimental for promotion or relegation, and the lost of Gates and Bar plus the cost of travel, without RFU subsidy would be devastating to a clubs finances. The third option is to play a 45 game season incorporating 21/22 and delaying any restructuring until 22/23 by which time the Premiership and Championship will have had time to decide what they are going to do and save the resulting chaos if they do their restructuring after Level 3 and below. The other option for N3 is to regionalise if the Travel subsidy is totally removed for all leagues.
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Posted By: Oldman1
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2020 at 11:28
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Worker bee, Problem solved by playing one extra game against closest opponents giving a 2 local Derby’s in a 16 game season. |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2020 at 13:43
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You need to arrange a round of derby matches, asis usually doen for pre-Christmas and play the round twice - probably both in May to get the best chance of being poermitted decent crowds. Someone will get a duff deal as they will not be that close to their derby partner - as there is never aperfect set of pairings. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: workerbee
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2020 at 14:18
| Yes to play 16 games Would balance the number of games but you have 8 away and Seven at home then play your local rival again to make 16 but if you have already played him at home out of your seven then you will play him away making 9 away and 7 home. To do this fairly you would have to completely re do the fixtures to make 8 home and 8 away. Easy for the London Clubs but in the North there are only 4 sides. |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2020 at 14:25
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You can set it up so that does not happen. You start by setting that round, then construct the others, and therefore everyone who is at home in the first round will have played an extra home game so will need to be away - which they when you repeat that round. Then move the round that was first to be last. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: workerbee
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2020 at 14:35
| I have no problem with that so long as it is only a 16 game season, it would not solve the problem if you plan to have the two pools of 8. |
Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2020 at 14:58
| Is nobody else old enough to remember the days when you only played everybody once, and nobody complained that the promoted team had played all of the top teams at home and the bottom teams away? |
Posted By: greenpower
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2020 at 17:55
| yes and if you won you got 2 points |
Posted By: semisonic
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2020 at 18:56
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I had thought about a 15 game season in 2 pools of 8 to solve the Home/Away issue and came up with: Split the competition into SE/others (or other way you can split geographically - outer London / others perhaps) Play the other 7 teams in your pool home and away (14 games) 15th game is an intra-pool game against your counterpart from the other pool. Top of A plays Top of B for 1st/2nd, 2nd in A plays 2nd in B for 3rd/4th. Top team in each pool play off for champion and promotion spot, bottom team in each pool goes down and 7th team in each pool play off for 3rd relegation place 13th / 14th. To decide where each 15th game gets played, you do a Strength of Schedule comparison, where beating the side 2nd in your pool is worth more than beating the 8th side. Can't see it happening but until we hear next week we're all just speculating. Any chance to watch some rugby before next September I would be happy for though.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2020 at 12:19
Trust you. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: workerbee
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2020 at 12:46
| You have not factored in the possibility of the restructuring taking place in which case there will be 5 relegated the bottom two from each pool plus a play off by the teams finishing 3rd from bottom for the 5th Place. That is supposing they promote three from level 4 perhaps they will make it just the 2 winners so reducing relegation to 4. However if the championship decide on their proposal then they are considering increasing to 16 and playing 2 pools of 8, which would impact on level three with 4 promoted thus reducing level 3 to 12, so no relegation and 2 promoted from level 4. |
Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2020 at 14:14
Sometimes a spreadsheet is better...
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Posted By: PiffPaff
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2020 at 16:00
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wb, restructuring of the Leagues has been put back to 22/23 season. ------------- Crouch, Bind, Tweet! |
Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2020 at 18:07
My grandad told me about those days..... ------------- Moderator http://www.leaguerugby.co.uk" rel="nofollow - National League Rugby Message Boards Remember Wakefield RFC |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2020 at 18:13
Did he remember Wakefield RU? ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2020 at 18:14
Hugely expensive though, apparently. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2020 at 18:58
Best rugby related news I've heard for 6 months. ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Alfred
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2020 at 19:04
But Richard, you were there!
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Posted By: Scrumtime
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2020 at 21:05
Is that official? Where you seen that??
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Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2020 at 22:47
| I’ve heard that too from a reliable source. I am expecting a big announcement on Monday or Tuesday which may include that. |
Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2020 at 07:25
Ouch!
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Posted By: steve p
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2020 at 22:19
| always looked forward to going to Wakefield with Moseley |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 10 Oct 2020 at 08:59
I thoroughly enjoyed our last game there. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Scrumtime
Date Posted: 10 Oct 2020 at 09:41
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Scotland pulled the equivalent of the Champ/Nat 1 till the Spring of 2021 yesterday The FOSROC Super6 Sprint Series, which had a scheduled start date of 31 October, will now not take place. The FOSROC Super6 teams will now work towards a full fixture card in the spring of 2021. |