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Topic: Week 7 Predictions
Posted By: Old Gold
Subject: Week 7 Predictions
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2024 at 18:14

Caldy 4 - 1 Cornish Pirates

Cambridge 4 - 1 Nottingham 

Bedford 2 - 5 Ealing

Chinnor 4 - 1 Doncaster

Coventry 5 - 2 Hartpury

London Scottish 5 - 1 Ampthill 



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Posted By: *Stalwart
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2024 at 18:43

Caldy 1 - 4 Cornish Pirates

Cambridge 1 - 4 Nottingham 

Bedford 2 - 5 Ealing

Chinnor 4 - 1 Doncaster

Coventry 5 - 0 Hartpury

London Scottish 4 - 1 Ampthill 



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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2024 at 06:54

My Guesses:

Caldy 4 - 1 Cornish Pirates

Cambridge 1 - 5 Nottingham 

Bedford 1 - 5 Ealing

Chinnor 1 - 5 Doncaster

Coventry 5 - 1 Hartpury

London Scottish 4 - 1 Ampthill 


Good luck all



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Posted By: greenpower
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2024 at 07:36
caldy  1  4 pirates
cambridge 1 5 nottingham
bedford      1 5 ealing
chinnor       5 1 doncaster
coventry     5 0 hartpury
scottish       4 1 ampthill


Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2024 at 07:55
caldy 1 5 pirates
cambridge 1 5 nottingham
bedford 1 5 ealing
chinnor 1 4 doncaster
coventry 5 1 hartpury
scottish 5 1 ampthill


Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2024 at 11:34
Caldy 1-5 Cornish Pirates
Cambridge 1-5 Nottingham
Bedford 1-5 Ealing
Chinnor 1-5 Doncaster
Coventry 5-0 Hartpury
London Scottish 5-1 Ampthill


Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2024 at 14:02
Caldy 4-0 Cornish Pirates
Cambridge 1-5 Nottingham
Bedford 1-5 Ealing
Chinnor 1-5 Doncaster
Coventry 5-1 Hartpury
London Scottish 5-1 Ampthill


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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2024 at 15:11
Caldy 4-1 Cornish Pirates
Cambridge 1-5 Nottingham
Bedford 2-5 Ealing
Chinnor 4-1 Doncaster
Coventry 5-1 Hartpury
London Scottish 5-1 Ampthill


Posted By: Jezmar
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2024 at 16:55

Caldy 4 - 1 Cornish Pirates

Cambridge 0 - 5 Nottingham 

Bedford 1 - 5 Ealing

Chinnor 4 - 1 Doncaster

Coventry 5 - 1 Hartpury

London Scottish 5 - 1 Ampthill



Posted By: GednyBlues15
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2024 at 23:07
Caldy 1-4 Pirates
Cambridge 1-5 Nottingham 
Bedford 5-2 Ealing 
Chinnor 1-5 Doncaster 
Coventry 5-1 Hartpury 
Scottish 5-1 Ampthill 


Posted By: All the Way
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2024 at 12:04
Caldy 1-4 Cornish Pirates
Cambridge 1-5 Nottingham
Bedford 2-5 Ealing
Chinnor 4-1 Doncaster
Coventry 5-0 Hartpury
London Scottish 1-5 Ampthill


Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2024 at 12:36

Ealing Trailfinders to face Bedford Blues: Strong side, but I would want Whyte in the starting front row.

  1. Lefty Zigiriadis
  2. Matt Cornish
  3. George Davis
  4. David Douglas Bridge
  5. Danny Cutmore
  6. Rob Farrar
  7. Jordy Reid
  8. Rayn Smid (c)
  9. Craig Hampson
  10. Dan Jones
  11. Tom Collins
  12. Jordan Holgate
  13. Reuben Bird-Tulloch
  14. Angus Kernohan
  15. Tobi Wilson
  16. Henry Walker
  17. Kyle Whyte
  18. Kabous Bezuidenhout
  19. Sean Lonsdale
  20. Matas Jurevicius
  21. Lloyd Williams
  22. Craig Willis
  23. Francis Moore


Posted By: BigChief
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2024 at 12:43
Caldy 1 - 5 Cornish Pirates
Cambridge 0 - 5 Nottingham
Bedford 2 - 5 Ealing
Chinnor 1 - 5 Doncaster
Coventry 5 - 0 Hartpury
London Scottish 5 - 1 Ampthill


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Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2024 at 13:17
Caldy 1 - 4 Cornish Pirates
Cambridge 1 - 5 Nottingham
Bedford 2 - 5 Ealing
Chinnor 1 - 5 Doncaster
Coventry 5 - 2 Hartpury
London Scottish 1 - 4 Ampthill


Posted By: workerbee
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2024 at 13:23
Interesting weather up North, winds of 70-90 heavy rain traveling will be difficult even for home side. All perimeter boards taken down for safety and canopy roof taken off before it blows off! High tides forecasted so we have swapped Ambulance for inshore rescue. It will be referees decision to play if he feels it is too dangerous. Pitch soft to very soft. This is real club rugby.


Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2024 at 13:30
That's interesting, as I believe having a wind-resistant canopy is one of the MOS criteria for Prem 2...Will it be Pot Noodles all round in the wooden shack for the pre match lunch?

It is a long way for the Pirates of Penzance to travel, only for the game to be called off on the day. An experience that Ealing and Bedford know only too well.


Posted By: workerbee
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2024 at 14:40
There is no Protocol from the RFU for wind , the pitch is heavy but playable, there is no standing water currently there is no wind so what criteria would we use  to cry off the game off today. If there is no danger to the players except trying to kick a ball into a 70mph wind. 
As for having a wind resistant canopy I would think that many Stands would not cope with 70-90 mph which would be taking roofs off and bringing trees down.


Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2024 at 14:49
But what of the Pot Noodle situation? 

Is the Bombay Bad Boy on the menu?

LOL


Posted By: workerbee
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2024 at 15:01
They will have to be screwed to the tables to prevent injury from Flying Noodles especially the Bombay Noodles if hit by one it causes a burning sensation got knows what it does to your stomach!! 


Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2024 at 15:14

Blues have Prowse in 2nd row, would have preferred Smith, but prowse may give more in the scrum. John Stewart starts from Bath.

Bedford Blues starting XV:

15. Louis James, 14. Matt Worley, 13. Lucas Titherington, 12. Michael Le Bourgeois, 11. Alfie Garside, 10. Will Maisey, 9. Alex Day (C); 1. Joey Conway, 2. John Stewart, 3. Oisin Heffernan, 4. Ed Prowse, 5. Rory Ward, 6. Luke Frost, 7. Joe Howard, 8. Fred Tuilagi

Bedford Blues Replacements:

16. Tommy Herman, 17. Jamie Jack, 18. Beltus Nonleh, 19. George Smith, 20. Jac Arthur, 21. Jonny Weimann, 22. George Makepeace-Cubitt, 23. Joel Matavesi

Unavailable for selection this week:

James Fish, Cameron King, Dean Adamson, Jamie Elliott



Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2024 at 16:23
Makepeace-Cubitt is a classy 10.

Makes it look very easy.


Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2024 at 17:56
Here is the Chinnor side to face Doncaster Knights

https://x.com/ChinnorRFCThame/status/1865000927339421985/photo/1" rel="nofollow - https://x.com/ChinnorRFCThame/status/1865000927339421985/photo/1

There are four changes from the side that started at Cornish Pirates, with a return for George Worboys, presumably on loan from Ealing Trailfinders ?

The Knights are unchanged from last week ( assuming they are not stopped from travelling by Storm Darragh ! )

https://x.com/DoncasterKnight/status/1865001099922424175/photo/1" rel="nofollow - https://x.com/DoncasterKnight/status/1865001099922424175/photo/1


Posted By: Donnyknightfan
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2024 at 19:32
Caldy 4 - 1 Cornish Pirates 
Cambridge 1 - 5 Nottingham 
Bedford 1 - 5 Ealing 
Chinnor 1 - 4 Doncaster 
Coventry 5 - 0 Hartpury 
London Scottish 1 - 4 Ampthill



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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 14:35
Latest
Caldy 0 Pirates 10

Cambridge 10 Notts 12


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 14:39
Latest
Caldy 0 Pirates 10 ht

Cambridge 10 Notts 17 ht


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:05
Latest
Caldy 0 Pirates 10 

Cambridge 10 Notts 24

Bedford 3 Ealing 0

Chinnor 0 Donny 0

Coventry 0 Hartpury 0

London Scottish 0 Amptill 0


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:11
Cov 7-0 Har
Nayalo/Richman
6 minutes


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Our City,
Our Club


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:25
Latest
Caldy 3 Pirates 22

Cambridge 10 Notts 31

Bedford 10 Ealing 8

Chinnor 10 Donny 0

Coventry 7 Hartpury 0

London Scottish 7 Amptill 0


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:27
Latest
Caldy 3 Pirates 22

Cambridge 10 Notts 43

Bedford 17 Ealing 8

Chinnor 13 Donny 0

Coventry 7 Hartpury 0

London Scottish 14 Amptill 0


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:36
Cov 7-3 Har
30 mins


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Our City,
Our Club


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:38
YC Cov's Nayalo.

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Our City,
Our Club


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:41
Cov 7-10 Har
34 mins
Hartpury well on top now.


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Our City,
Our Club


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:42
Latest
Caldy 3 Pirates 22

Cambridge 10 Notts 43

Bedford 17 Ealing 8

Chinnor 13 Donny 5

Coventry 7 Hartpury 10

London Scottish 14 Amptill 3


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:47
Latest
Caldy 3 Pirates 22 ft

Cambridge 10 Notts 43 ft

Bedford 17 Ealing 8 ht

Chinnor 13 Donny 5 ht

Coventry 7 Hartpury 10 ht

London Scottish 14 Amptill 3 ht


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:48
Ht Cov 7-10 Har
Att 2707

Nayalo back on at 43 mins.


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Our City,
Our Club


Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 15:59
Cam 10 Nottingham 43 FT

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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."


Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 16:04
Blues did have the slope & wind advantage 1st half.


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 16:09
Cov 7-13 Har
49 mins


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Our City,
Our Club


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 16:27
Latest
Caldy 3 Pirates 22 ft

Cambridge 10 Notts 43 ft

Bedford 17 Ealing 11

Chinnor 18 Donny 13

Coventry 7 Hartpury 13

London Scottish 14 Amptill 3


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 16:31
Latest
Caldy 3 Pirates 22 ft

Cambridge 10 Notts 43 ft

Bedford 17 Ealing 18 PTry Ealing blues down to 13

Chinnor 18 Donny 13

Coventry 7 Hartpury 13

London Scottish 14 Amptill 3


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 16:33
Power cut at Chinnor, floodlights out game temporarily stopped


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 16:34
Latest
Caldy 3 Pirates 22 ft

Cambridge 10 Notts 43 ft

Bedford 17 Ealing 18

Chinnor 18 Donny 13

Coventry 7 Hartpury 13

London Scottish 14 Amptill 10


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 16:43
Latest
Caldy 3 Pirates 22 ft

Cambridge 10 Notts 43 ft

Bedford 17 Ealing 25

Chinnor 18 Donny 13

Coventry 7 Hartpury 13

London Scottish 14 Amptill 10


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 16:44
Latest
Caldy 3 Pirates 22 ft

Cambridge 10 Notts 43 ft

Bedford 17 Ealing 25

Chinnor 18 Donny 13

Coventry 14 Hartpury 13

London Scottish 14 Amptill 10


Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 16:44
Originally posted by KnightsBoy KnightsBoy wrote:

Power cut at Chinnor, floodlights out game temporarily stopped

68 mins on the clock, according to hosts on X


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 16:45
Cov 14-13 Har
80 mins


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Our City,
Our Club


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 16:46
Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by KnightsBoy KnightsBoy wrote:

Power cut at Chinnor, floodlights out game temporarily stopped

68 mins on the clock, according to hosts on X


What happens if the lights don't return my learned friend, just been told score stands on if the lights stay out.


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 16:46
Latest
Caldy 3 Pirates 22 ft

Cambridge 10 Notts 43 ft

Bedford 17 Ealing 25 ft

Chinnor 18 Donny 13

Coventry 14 Hartpury 13 ft

London Scottish 14 Amptill 15 ft


Posted By: Elijah Cadman
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 16:48
Originally posted by KnightsBoy KnightsBoy wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by KnightsBoy KnightsBoy wrote:

Power cut at Chinnor, floodlights out game temporarily stopped

68 mins on the clock, according to hosts on X

61 mins played result stands 
What happens if the lights don't return my learned friend 


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 16:48
Full time at BPA
Cov 14-13 Har
4-1
Cov flaky as ever...


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Our Club


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 16:50
Originally posted by Elijah Cadman Elijah Cadman wrote:

Originally posted by KnightsBoy KnightsBoy wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by KnightsBoy KnightsBoy wrote:

Power cut at Chinnor, floodlights out game temporarily stopped

68 mins on the clock, according to hosts on X

61 mins played result stands 
What happens if the lights don't return my learned friend 

That's a bummer 


Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 16:53
yes, an hour's play is the cut-off i'm pretty sure; altho' it's possible there may be some form of investigation... 

don't believe there's any law about having to resume an interrupted game within a set amount of time? post about the lights was 4.31pm so now more than half an hour...


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 17:08
From Donny's twitter feed

IMPORTANT MATCH UPDATE‼️

With Chinnor unable to get the floodlights up and running, the game has been abandoned. 

The decision as to whether the result will stand or if the game will be replayed now stands with the RFU. 

Will we update as soon as we can!decision regarding the result of the game goes to the RFU. 


Posted By: Jezmar
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 17:09
Game now abandoned at Chinnor


Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 17:26
As per the RFU regulations re interrupted/abandoned matches, the score will stand at Chinnor, 4-1 to them. A good result for Chinnor, but what are full time Donny playing at? Supposedly the only eligible team for promotion based on off-field criteria, losing to a part time village club.

It is a joke that second tier clubs have floodlights that malfunction mid game, all the more reason to bring in the MOS criteria across the board and provide a professional rugby experience in Premiership 2 moving forward.

Cambridge and Caldy further showing that they are out of their depth, and should relegation ever return to tier 2, they will be heading back to National 1, which in all honesty is more their comfort zone, and to be quite frank, it's starting to get embarrassing for both; harping on about taking positives from each week when in reality they're getting smashed every time they take the field.

At the other end of the table, Coventry scraping past part-time Hartpury too, they are a long way from Premiership standards, despite applying to join the top table. Proof that this is but a pipe dream for all those at the BPA. The Championship has not covered itself in glory this weekend with regards to selling an evenly contested, marketable product for the future.


Posted By: Jezmar
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 17:30
National Power have confirmed that the issue was a local power cut and not the fault of the infrastructure at Chinnor Rugby Club. 
Before you judge and let’s hope this sort of issue does not occur at your club in the future ensure you are in possession of the full facts. 


Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 17:34
Originally posted by Se7en Se7en wrote:

As per the RFU regulations re interupted/abandones matches, the score will stand at Chinnor, 4-1 to them. A good result for Chinnor.

It iis a joke that second tier clubs have floodlights that malfunction mid game, all the more reason to bring in the MOS criteria across the board and provide a professional rugby experience in Premiership 2 moving forward.

Cambridge and Caldy further showing that they are out of their depth, and should relegation ever return to tier 2, they will be heading back to National 1, which in all honesty is more their comfort zone.

Coventry scraping past past-time Hartpury too, they are a long way from Premiership standards, despite applying to join the top table. The Championship has not covered itself in glory this weekend with regards to selling an evenly contested, marketable product for the future.

Okay, who let Bill Sweeney post?


Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 17:44
Originally posted by Se7en Se7en wrote:

As per the RFU regulations re interupted/abandones matches, the score will stand at Chinnor, 4-1 to them. A good result for Chinnor.

It iis a joke that second tier clubs have floodlights that malfunction mid game, all the more reason to bring in the MOS criteria across the board and provide a professional rugby experience in Premiership 2 moving forward.

Cambridge and Caldy further showing that they are out of their depth, and should relegation ever return to tier 2, they will be heading back to National 1, which in all honesty is more their comfort zone.

Coventry scraping past past-time Hartpury too, they are a long way from Premiership standards, despite applying to join the top table. The Championship has not covered itself in glory this weekend with regards to selling an evenly contested, marketable product for the future.

Portsmouth and Stevenage have both recently had games abandoned due to floodlight failures. Should they be kicked out of the Football League ?


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 18:14
Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Originally posted by Se7en Se7en wrote:

As per the RFU regulations re interupted/abandones matches, the score will stand at Chinnor, 4-1 to them. A good result for Chinnor.

It iis a joke that second tier clubs have floodlights that malfunction mid game, all the more reason to bring in the MOS criteria across the board and provide a professional rugby experience in Premiership 2 moving forward.

Cambridge and Caldy further showing that they are out of their depth, and should relegation ever return to tier 2, they will be heading back to National 1, which in all honesty is more their comfort zone.

Coventry scraping past past-time Hartpury too, they are a long way from Premiership standards, despite applying to join the top table. The Championship has not covered itself in glory this weekend with regards to selling an evenly contested, marketable product for the future.

Okay, who let Bill Sweeney post?
Quite.


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Our Club


Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 18:44
Originally posted by Jezmar Jezmar wrote:

National Power have confirmed that the issue was a local power cut and not the fault of the infrastructure at Chinnor Rugby Club. 
Before you judge and let’s hope this sort of issue does not occur at your club in the future ensure you are in possession of the full facts. 

Where is your secondary power supply/generator for exactly this situation. A well-publicised storm has been enroute for days, a sensible 'back up' SOP should therefore have been employed. It's simple common sense, and the provision fans should quite rightly expect having paid £20+ to brave the cold and support their supposedly-semi pro club. Not good enough.


Posted By: Jezmar
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 19:07
We are as gutted as you, in the ascendancy we could see a bonus point win in coming! 


Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 19:36
Originally posted by KnightsBoy KnightsBoy wrote:

From Donny's twitter feed

IMPORTANT MATCH UPDATE‼️

With Chinnor unable to get the floodlights up and running, the game has been abandoned. 

The decision as to whether the result will stand or if the game will be replayed now stands with the RFU. 

Will we update as soon as we can!decision regarding the result of the game goes to the RFU. 

I knew that after 60 mins, you can call a result. However, I thought that if they deem it too close to call (ie, the scores being close) then they can order a replay.


Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 19:45
Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by KnightsBoy KnightsBoy wrote:

From Donny's twitter feed

IMPORTANT MATCH UPDATE‼️

With Chinnor unable to get the floodlights up and running, the game has been abandoned. 

The decision as to whether the result will stand or if the game will be replayed now stands with the RFU. 

Will we update as soon as we can!decision regarding the result of the game goes to the RFU. 

I knew that after 60 mins, you can call a result. However, I thought that if they deem it too close to call (ie, the scores being close) then they can order a replay.

You are almost right. However, it is actually if there are factors other than the weather at play (e.g. sub-standard floodights/infrastructure) that a match can be replayed at a later date to determine the final score. 

From the RFU website:

Other Reasons

74. If the Referee finds it necessary to abandon a match for any reason other than Weather conditions, then, irrespective of the number of minutes played, the match will be reconvened on another pitch at the hosting venue if a suitable pitch is available and safe in accordance with World Rugby Regulations.

75. If no alternate pitch is available (as deemed by the Match Official) then the result will be reviewed and determined by the Organising Committee (or its delegate). The Organising Committee (or its delegate) may order the match to be replayed, award bonus points or impose such other sanction as it deems appropriate

Given the evident haphazard and amateur nature of the Championship in its current form, I'd imagine Chinnor and Donny will just muddle on and accept a 4-1 result to Chinnor. This in itself is bizzare, given the supposed drive towards professionalism in English rugby's second tier. 


Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 21:38
Originally posted by Se7en Se7en wrote:

As per the RFU regulations re interrupted/abandoned matches, the score will stand at Chinnor, 4-1 to them. A good result for Chinnor, but what are full time Donny playing at? Supposedly the only eligible team for promotion based on off-field criteria, losing to a part time village club.

It is a joke that second tier clubs have floodlights that malfunction mid game, all the more reason to bring in the MOS criteria across the board and provide a professional rugby experience in Premiership 2 moving forward.

Cambridge and Caldy further showing that they are out of their depth, and should relegation ever return to tier 2, they will be heading back to National 1, which in all honesty is more their comfort zone, and to be quite frank, it's starting to get embarrassing for both; harping on about taking positives from each week when in reality they're getting smashed every time they take the field.

At the other end of the table, Coventry scraping past past-time Hartpury too, they are a long way from Premiership standards, despite applying to join the top table. Proof that this is but a pipe dream for all those at the BPA. The Championship has not covered itself in glory this weekend with regards to selling an evenly contested, marketable product for the future.

That's quite blunt with regards to Caldy and Cambridge, but I don't disagree with the sentiment. As someone who has taken a long and keen interest in Level 2 - 4 rugby for many years, it is clear to me that both are on a downward trajectory and it's becoming more apparent each week that the Champ is a step too far for them. 

Whereas Paton Field may have initially been a safe haven for The Ravers, they've now been well and truly worked out and are getting turned over at home as well as away every week.

As for Cambridge, if I'm being honest they were lucky to go up when they did by virtue of 1 more drawn game than 2nd placed rivals Rams at the time. They're one and a half seasons into life at Level 2 and are still struggling to find any continuity of form at all, trying to keep their head above water week in, week out. I'm not sure what sort of existence that is for the players or fans and I would say that its time to accept that fact and play/live within your means.


Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 21:50
Originally posted by fatbear fatbear wrote:

Originally posted by Se7en Se7en wrote:

As per the RFU regulations re interupted/abandones matches, the score will stand at Chinnor, 4-1 to them. A good result for Chinnor.

It iis a joke that second tier clubs have floodlights that malfunction mid game, all the more reason to bring in the MOS criteria across the board and provide a professional rugby experience in Premiership 2 moving forward.

Cambridge and Caldy further showing that they are out of their depth, and should relegation ever return to tier 2, they will be heading back to National 1, which in all honesty is more their comfort zone.

Coventry scraping past past-time Hartpury too, they are a long way from Premiership standards, despite applying to join the top table. The Championship has not covered itself in glory this weekend with regards to selling an evenly contested, marketable product for the future.

Portsmouth and Stevenage have both recently had games abandoned due to floodlight failures. Should they be kicked out of the Football League ?

But of course that is irrelevant as this is a rugby forum discussing rugby matters, not a football chat room.


Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 21:53
Originally posted by Nat1 Nat1 wrote:

Originally posted by Se7en Se7en wrote:

As per the RFU regulations re interrupted/abandoned matches, the score will stand at Chinnor, 4-1 to them. A good result for Chinnor, but what are full time Donny playing at? Supposedly the only eligible team for promotion based on off-field criteria, losing to a part time village club.

It is a joke that second tier clubs have floodlights that malfunction mid game, all the more reason to bring in the MOS criteria across the board and provide a professional rugby experience in Premiership 2 moving forward.

Cambridge and Caldy further showing that they are out of their depth, and should relegation ever return to tier 2, they will be heading back to National 1, which in all honesty is more their comfort zone, and to be quite frank, it's starting to get embarrassing for both; harping on about taking positives from each week when in reality they're getting smashed every time they take the field.

At the other end of the table, Coventry scraping past past-time Hartpury too, they are a long way from Premiership standards, despite applying to join the top table. Proof that this is but a pipe dream for all those at the BPA. The Championship has not covered itself in glory this weekend with regards to selling an evenly contested, marketable product for the future.

That's quite blunt with regards to Caldy and Cambridge, but I don't disagree with the sentiment. As someone who has taken a long and keen interest in Level 2 - 4 rugby for many years, it is clear to me that both are on a downward trajectory and it's becoming more apparent each week that the Champ is a step too far for them. 

Whereas Paton Field may have initially been a safe haven for The Ravers, they've now been well and truly worked out and are getting turned over at home as well as away every week.

As for Cambridge, if I'm being honest they were lucky to go up when they did by virtue of 1 more drawn game than 2nd placed rivals Rams at the time. They're one and a half seasons into life at Level 2 and are still struggling to find any continuity of form at all, trying to keep their head above water week in, week out. I'm not sure what sort of existence that is for the players or fans and I would say that its time to accept that fact and play/live within your means.

You've hit the nail on the head here Clap


Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 22:15
Originally posted by Se7en Se7en wrote:

Originally posted by fatbear fatbear wrote:

Originally posted by Se7en Se7en wrote:

As per the RFU regulations re interupted/abandones matches, the score will stand at Chinnor, 4-1 to them. A good result for Chinnor.

It iis a joke that second tier clubs have floodlights that malfunction mid game, all the more reason to bring in the MOS criteria across the board and provide a professional rugby experience in Premiership 2 moving forward.

Cambridge and Caldy further showing that they are out of their depth, and should relegation ever return to tier 2, they will be heading back to National 1, which in all honesty is more their comfort zone.

Coventry scraping past past-time Hartpury too, they are a long way from Premiership standards, despite applying to join the top table. The Championship has not covered itself in glory this weekend with regards to selling an evenly contested, marketable product for the future.

Portsmouth and Stevenage have both recently had games abandoned due to floodlight failures. Should they be kicked out of the Football League ?

But of course that is irrelevant as this is a rugby forum discussing rugby matters, not a football chat room.


Portsmouth attracted a crowd of over 20,000 today for their game against Bristol City but a couple of weeks ago had a game against Millwall abandoned due to their floodlight failure.

Seven sides in the Championship currently have average attendances of less than 1,500, yet you expect them to have better back-up facilities for their floodlights than Portsmouth ? Seriously ?

No wonder rugby clubs are going bankrupt if that is the minimum standards they are expected to comply with, and with next to no funding from the RFU.


Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 22:22
Anyway, today's match between Chinnor and Doncaster was an absorbing contest in atrocious conditions before it ended 12 minutes early.

Both sides need to be applauded for their efforts but with my Chinnor hat on, they more than matched their illustrious opponents, and with the elements generally in their favour ( although the the winds were prone to swirling unpredictably ) they might have been expected to see the game out. However, you can never tell and it would only haven take one move to have given Doncaster the lead.............

Here is the report of the action that did happen
https://fatbearssportingdiaries.blogspot.com/2024/12/chinnor-18-13-doncaster-knights-att.html" rel="nofollow - https://fatbearssportingdiaries.blogspot.com/2024/12/chinnor-18-13-doncaster-knights-att.html


Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2024 at 22:24
Originally posted by fatbear fatbear wrote:

Originally posted by Se7en Se7en wrote:

Originally posted by fatbear fatbear wrote:

Originally posted by Se7en Se7en wrote:

As per the RFU regulations re interupted/abandones matches, the score will stand at Chinnor, 4-1 to them. A good result for Chinnor.

It iis a joke that second tier clubs have floodlights that malfunction mid game, all the more reason to bring in the MOS criteria across the board and provide a professional rugby experience in Premiership 2 moving forward.

Cambridge and Caldy further showing that they are out of their depth, and should relegation ever return to tier 2, they will be heading back to National 1, which in all honesty is more their comfort zone.

Coventry scraping past past-time Hartpury too, they are a long way from Premiership standards, despite applying to join the top table. The Championship has not covered itself in glory this weekend with regards to selling an evenly contested, marketable product for the future.

Portsmouth and Stevenage have both recently had games abandoned due to floodlight failures. Should they be kicked out of the Football League ?

But of course that is irrelevant as this is a rugby forum discussing rugby matters, not a football chat room.


Portsmouth attracted a crowd of over 20,000 today for their game against Bristol City but a couple of weeks ago had a game against Millwall abandoned due to their floodlight failure.

Seven sides in the Championship currently have average attendances of less than 1,500, yet you expect them to have better back-up facilities for their floodlights than Portsmouth ? Seriously ?

No wonder rugby clubs are going bankrupt if that is the minimum standards they are expected to comply with, and with next to no funding from the RFU.

Yes, that's the way it be Wink


Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2024 at 00:08
Well, vitriol a plenty today or is it just the truth? Confused

It has long been my position that the National Leagues are a better place for club rugby than The Championship. The various individual jumps, financial and otherwise, from Levels 5 to 2 are huge and perhaps not fully understood by Committees basking in promotion success.

Se7en, you have said what others have not. I would add Ampthill into the Cambridge / Caldy group if only because of the obvious problem with their ground (then you need to remove London Scottish as they have few players and Ealing as they have few supporters.Wink )

I don't know if it's possible to ask for relegation but if so, getting to 14 clubs may be a challenge, especially as a committee would get involved and Level 2 would end up with Camel as a sponsor.

On a more positive note. I'm glad to read that Chinnor's light failure was a power cut and not, as has been mooted, because their lights were not up to scratch. Thumbs Up


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Posted By: Bigbluepip
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2024 at 10:42
Tough match at GR yesterday, 2 good tries from the Blues and a pen in the first half, with a really solid performance in defence in very difficult conditions saw us go in 17-8 up. Lots of pressure from ET in the 2nd half with the wind and slope in their favour, we held out till about 65mins when 2 yellow cards, a pen and a penalty try, not undeserved, saw us losing 17-18, with ET getting a late try to take away a bonus point. 
ET are very well drilled side, their line out was particularly impressive in the horrendous conditions, and the stole plenty of ours too, a strong scrum and hard running backs made for a top encounter.
Considering the weather, it was a really entertaining game that nearly 2000 braved storm Darragh to watch.


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Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2024 at 11:24
I wish I could say the Coventry Vs Hartpury game was as enjoyable as the Bedford game, but it was a scrappy affair in the high swirling wind, and about the only thing enjoyed by the 2707 crowd was the final score.
Probably one of the biggest cheer of the afternoon was for a tiny lad who stood up a wheelie bin twice his size after it had blown over for the second time.
The second biggest cheer was for Bedford when the half time scores were announced.
In the end Hartpury couldn't keep their single score by slowing the game, especially at the scrum. Coventry found some more energy, and forced a try near the posts, which was duly converted.

Still, that's 7 from 7, and still a narrow two point lead maintained.




Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2024 at 18:27
Originally posted by Jezmar Jezmar wrote:

We are as gutted as you, in the ascendancy we could see a bonus point win in coming! 

I suppose it's all about the glasses you wear, from the perspective of the Knights fans present it was Donny who looked likely to win against a tiring Chinnor outfit


Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2024 at 19:59
Out of interest, what happened after the decision to abandon at Chinnor? Were people huddled around in a candle-lit clubhouse, or did everyone have to go home, or had the power come back on by then?


Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2024 at 20:21
The power in the clubhouse was fine but the outside lights were not working. So plenty more bar sales as everyone waiting to hear what was happening !




Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2024 at 20:24
A recent statement from Chinnor

https://x.com/ChinnorRFCThame/status/1865841645578575998" rel="nofollow - https://x.com/ChinnorRFCThame/status/1865841645578575998


Posted By: Jezmar
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2024 at 08:01
of course it is, the comment was somewhat tongue in cheek, following what was an absorbing contest. In reality it could have gone either way, I think the wind was swinging slightly in our favour as the 2nd half went on which may have assisted as a 16th man at the death.
It was great to have a club such as yours visit Kingsey Road and to be able to enjoy chatting with a number of your supporters pitch side during the game. I look forward to coming to the away game, and who knows maybe we will have another home tie this season to play against you yet. 





Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2024 at 09:18
Originally posted by fatbear fatbear wrote:

The power in the clubhouse was fine but the outside lights were not working. So plenty more bar sales as everyone waiting to hear what was happening !



A win-win situation for Chinnor then. Helping yourself to 4 Championship points (by default), and then helping yourself to extra bar takings after the early final whistle/abandonment.

To be fair, that's almost a bit of karma and a big two fingers up to the RFU in the wake of the Prem Cup exclusion this season.

Curious that lighting was still functioning inside, but not 30 yards away pitchside, the two must be on a different circuit/network...


Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2024 at 09:37
Perhaps the Far East betting scammers are back............

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6689135/MATCH-DAY-lights-went-flights-Far-East-betting-scam.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6689135/MATCH-DAY-lights-went-flights-Far-East-betting-scam.html


Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2024 at 10:16
Originally posted by Se7en Se7en wrote:

Originally posted by fatbear fatbear wrote:

The power in the clubhouse was fine but the outside lights were not working. So plenty more bar sales as everyone waiting to hear what was happening !



A win-win situation for Chinnor then. Helping yourself to 4 Championship points (by default), and then helping yourself to extra bar takings after the early final whistle/abandonment.

To be fair, that's almost a bit of karma and a big two fingers up to the RFU in the wake of the Prem Cup exclusion this season.

Curious that lighting was still functioning inside, but not 30 yards away pitchside, the two must be on a different circuit/network...

A snide/nasty tone to several of your comments on this thread Se7en - prompting the initial 'Bill Sweeney' retort that seems rather pertinent. Most people in this parish are able to disagree with each other without being disrespectful, but that appears to be beyond you...


Posted By: Jezmar
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2024 at 13:32
Originally posted by Se7en Se7en wrote:

Originally posted by fatbear fatbear wrote:

The power in the clubhouse was fine but the outside lights were not working. So plenty more bar sales as everyone waiting to hear what was happening !



A win-win situation for Chinnor then. Helping yourself to 4 Championship points (by default), and then helping yourself to extra bar takings after the early final whistle/abandonment.

To be fair, that's almost a bit of karma and a big two fingers up to the RFU in the wake of the Prem Cup exclusion this season.

Curious that lighting was still functioning inside, but not 30 yards away pitchside, the two must be on a different circuit/network...

It is a real shame that you continue to depreciate the hard work that Chinnor have done in gaining promotion to the Championship and it seems as though you are suggesting the club manufactured the situation.
Since being promoted Chinnor have spent tens of thousands of pounds on infrastructure improvements and the match day experience experience has recently been considerably enhanced at Kingsey Road.
I have seen documentary proof that there was a power failure on the local grid that resulted in the flood lights going out. I am further reliably informed that the Halide floodlights have a control system that prevents them being turned on immediately after they have come off as they need to cool down before being switched back on again and that takes a long period of time.
The floodlights were serviced by the installers only two weeks prior. 
Methinks you should withdraw your comments and apologise but I wont hold my breath.


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2024 at 14:06
More news coming through regarding the abandoned game.

The power cut was apparently to the ground, nearby houses were still powered, within about 5 minutes the floodlights to other pitches was restored but not the main pitch.


Posted By: Jezmar
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2024 at 15:20
Originally posted by KnightsBoy KnightsBoy wrote:

More news coming through regarding the abandoned game.

The power cut was apparently to the ground, nearby houses were still powered, within about 5 minutes the floodlights to other pitches was restored but not the main pitch.

For goodness sake, the Power cut was to a wider area as confirmed by National Power. 
The other floodlights were switched on for the first time after the power cut to allow the match officials to inspect the other pitches to ascertain their suitability to allow the continuation of the game, they were not on during the game. These floodlights were therefore not affected by the cooling down period required before they can be switched on again, but hey, why let the truth get in the way of a good fabricated story.


Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2024 at 16:18
UK power's site lists this power cut. 
And notes it is still ongoing - albeit with only two properties still affected.





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Posted By: seagoon
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2024 at 22:13
Se7en I wish you would STFU !

Quote:
Cambridge and Caldy further showing that they are out of their depth, and should relegation ever return to tier 2, they will be heading back to National 1, which in all honesty is more their comfort zone, and to be quite frank, it's starting to get embarrassing for both; harping on about taking positives from each week when in reality they're getting smashed every time they take the field.

Getting smashed?  I don't think so 
How many matches have you actually watched where Cambridge or Caldy were involved?


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Posted By: RobC
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2024 at 09:43
Originally posted by seagoon seagoon wrote:

Se7en I wish you would STFU !

Quote:
Cambridge and Caldy further showing that they are out of their depth, and should relegation ever return to tier 2, they will be heading back to National 1, which in all honesty is more their comfort zone, and to be quite frank, it's starting to get embarrassing for both; harping on about taking positives from each week when in reality they're getting smashed every time they take the field.

Getting smashed?  I don't think so 
How many matches have you actually watched where Cambridge or Caldy were involved?

Caldy 15 Coventry 17 



Posted By: Stalwart*
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2024 at 10:39
Caldy and Cambridge are in the league on merit. Many teams struggle in their first season (or two) when they go up a division. Survival is the first step, then building to compete to be nearer the middle/top. Having said that, a team that finishes bottom should be relegated and the team that finishes top should be promoted.

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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2024 at 10:05
Talking about living within their means - Pirates cut losses from £500,000 to £200,000.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/cn9gvr8d23lo" rel="nofollow - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/cn9gvr8d23lo


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Posted By: Stalwart*
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2024 at 10:49
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Talking about living within their means - Pirates cut losses from £500,000 to £200,000.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/cn9gvr8d23lo" rel="nofollow - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/cn9gvr8d23lo


I'm guessing the wage bill has been cut drastically. Before last season we had a mass exodus of players and an influx of youngsters. Miraculously, dueto our incredible coaching team, they gelled very quickly and finished second in the league. Again, at the end of the season we had another exodus and another influx of new players, as well as cutting the size of the squad. We struggled to get results at the start of the season. Aafter winning the first game at Nottingham we lost in the last moments to Ealing, Bedford and Cambridge - as well a coming unstuck at L Scots. We finally dogged out a win at home against Chinnor, then followed up with a win at Caldy. So steadied the ship a bit.
But it's a struggle to keep going and, as others have said, it's impossible to generate enough income through the gate to come near to paying the bills for pro rugby.
So, if the RFU want a pro second tier it will have to put its hand in its collective pocket. If not you will be left with 10 pro clubs who are all financial basket cases and nowhere to develop players.

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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2024 at 12:12
RFU have met and decided the Chinnor Doncaster result stands, Donny board have 7, days to appeal if they wish


Posted By: Donnyknightfan
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2024 at 12:38
Originally posted by KnightsBoy KnightsBoy wrote:

RFU have met and decided the Chinnor Doncaster result stands, Donny board have 7, days to appeal if they wish

What a complete disgrace. The RFU proving yet again that they have absolutely no integrity whatsoever. Donny should appeal that all day long - it’s utter nonsense. 


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Posted By: Jezmar
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2024 at 13:03
Statement from Chinnor RFC regarding last Saturday’s abandoned game:-
“The RFU Disputes committee met, and the decision was made that the result of the Championship Round 7 fixture, Chinnor v Doncaster Knights, will stand.
 
The match was abandoned in the 68th minute due to floodlight failure, with Chinnor leading 18-13. The match result will be recorded as Chinnor 18-13 Doncaster Knights.
 
The RFU acknowledged in their ruling that the floodlight failure was as a result of a grid power outage caused by Storm Darragh.”


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2024 at 16:35
Originally posted by Jezmar Jezmar wrote:

Statement from Chinnor RFC regarding last Saturday’s abandoned game:-
“The RFU Disputes committee met, and the decision was made that the result of the Championship Round 7 fixture, Chinnor v Doncaster Knights, will stand.
 
The match was abandoned in the 68th minute due to floodlight failure, with Chinnor leading 18-13. The match result will be recorded as Chinnor 18-13 Doncaster Knights.
 
The RFU acknowledged in their ruling that the floodlight failure was as a result of a grid power outage caused by Storm Darragh.”
Doncaster have appealed the decision 


Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2024 at 18:00
Originally posted by KnightsBoy KnightsBoy wrote:

Originally posted by Jezmar Jezmar wrote:

Statement from Chinnor RFC regarding last Saturday’s abandoned game:-
“The RFU Disputes committee met, and the decision was made that the result of the Championship Round 7 fixture, Chinnor v Doncaster Knights, will stand.
 
The match was abandoned in the 68th minute due to floodlight failure, with Chinnor leading 18-13. The match result will be recorded as Chinnor 18-13 Doncaster Knights.
 
The RFU acknowledged in their ruling that the floodlight failure was as a result of a grid power outage caused by Storm Darragh.”
Doncaster have appealed the decision 

Quite right too. Sale FC v Moseley encountered the same problem last weekend in Nat 1, and a replay has already been scheduled for late February.

Far more sensible, albeit I'm not sure how far into the match at Heywood Road it was before being abandoned.

I'm know Chinnor will have ample free weekends when the Prem Cup returns  in which to host Donny if their availability suits. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.



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